Russia “Previewed” Plan to Disseminate Emails with Trump Campaign - Polidicks

[quote] A significant recent revelation in the Russia investigation has been largely overlooked in the rush of several breaking news stories over the past few days. A nugget of information is contained in the memo written by Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee (the so-called Schiff Memo), which was released on Saturday morning. Prior to the memo, we knew that a Russian agent told Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos of “Moscow possessing ‘dirt’” on Hillary Clinton “in the form of ‘thousands of emails,’” according to Papadopoulos’s plea statement. The memo went a legally significant step further. As Rep. Adam Schiff recently told Chris Hayes, “our memo discloses for the first time that the Russians previewed to Papadopoulos that they could help with disseminating these stolen emails.” Rep. Schiff added, “When Donald Trump openly called on the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails, they’d be richly rewarded if they released these to the press, his campaign had already been put on notice that the Russians were prepared to do just that and disseminate these stolen emails.” (The full transcript and video clip is below.) This new revelation is legally important and, if true, could have exposed Papadopoulos and potentially other campaign officials to significant criminal liability. I spoke with several leading experts in campaign finance law and former federal prosecutors to gather their views. [/Quote] [URL="https://www.justsecurity.org/53241/russians-previewed-plan-disseminate-emails-trump-campaign/"]Just Security[/URL] Sign of the beginning of the end?

I wonder how much involvement Donny himself had in this previewing since he called on the Russians to obtain the emails

[QUOTE=Quark:;53169973]I wonder how much involvement Donny himself had in this previewing since he called on the Russians to obtain the emails[/QUOTE] There's basically no plausible way he wasn't in the loop. Even Steve Bannon reportedly doesn't believe that there's any way Donnie kept a firewall between himself and his campaign staffers who were contacting Russia. Papadopoulis was in contact with Kushner. It's been suspected since he said it that Trump [U]knew[/U] Russia had the emails when he invited Russia to release them "if they can find them". Schiff is now stating that it's a fact that the campaign knew, and it's going to be a real tough argument to claim that a man with as bombastic and attention-demanding a personality as Trump didn't know what was going on in his own campaign. Pence also needs to explain how he kept himself from finding out, too, otherwise he's got a bunch of inconvenient lies and uncomfortable questions sitting around.

Jesus. Its an absolute wonder that anyone has managed to make it this far and still dismiss these damning evidences of misdeeds.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;53170059]There's basically no plausible way he wasn't in the loop. Even Steve Bannon reportedly doesn't believe that there's any way Donnie kept a firewall between himself and his campaign staffers who were contacting Russia. Papadopoulis was in contact with Kushner. It's been suspected since he said it that Trump [U]knew[/U] Russia had the emails when he invited Russia to release them "if they can find them". Schiff is now stating that it's a fact that the campaign knew, and it's going to be a real tough argument to claim that a man with as bombastic and attention-demanding a personality as Trump didn't know what was going on in his own campaign. Pence also needs to explain how he kept himself from finding out, too, otherwise he's got a bunch of inconvenient lies and uncomfortable questions sitting around.[/QUOTE] Not that I actually doubt Pence is implicated in quite a bit of this Trump-Russia Conspiracy, but is there any publically available evidence that points towards him being implicated in it? So far I haven't heard or read anything about Pence meeting with Russian government employees, oligarchs, Kremlin officials, or anything like that. I also haven't seen anything pertaining to him planning on running as Trump's VP very far back in the past, as opposed to Trump announcing a 2016 campaign as far back as 2014. I do hope Pence goes down with Trump and Co. But there needs to be a legit reason for it, not just because people don't like him.

[QUOTE=Quark:;53170573]Not that I actually doubt Pence is implicated in quite a bit of this Trump-Russia Conspiracy, but is there any publically available evidence that points towards him being implicated in it? So far I haven't heard or read anything about Pence meeting with Russian government employees, oligarchs, Kremlin officials, or anything like that. I also haven't seen anything pertaining to him planning on running as Trump's VP very far back in the past, as opposed to Trump announcing a 2016 campaign as far back as 2014. I do hope Pence goes down with Trump and Co. But there needs to be a legit reason for it, not just because people don't like him.[/QUOTE] I forget who it was, but weren't some of Trump's compromised people pushing for him during the campaign to choose Pence over someone else as the VP on his ticket, to the extent of falsely claiming that a flight had been delayed or something like that so that Trump would choose to have dinner with Pence? Not to mention, Pence was covering up for Flynn despite it having later been revealed that Team Trump had been tipped off about Flynn? I think Pence is probably implicated in this to a decent degree, but just better at covering up his tracks.

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;53170762]I forget who it was, but weren't some of Trump's compromised people pushing for him during the campaign to choose Pence over someone else as the VP on his ticket, to the extent of falsely claiming that a flight had been delayed or something like that so that Trump would choose to have dinner with Pence? Not to mention, Pence was covering up for Flynn despite it having later been revealed that Team Trump had been tipped off about Flynn? I think Pence is probably implicated in this to a decent degree, but just better at covering up his tracks.[/QUOTE] I'll tell you exactly who it was that pulled literal shenanigans to get Trump to choose Mike Pence for VP instead of Chris Christie: [B][I][URL="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-offered-chris-christie-vice-president-role-before-mike-pence/"]Paul Manafort[/URL][/I][/B] :thinking: [QUOTE=Quark:;53170573]Not that I actually doubt Pence is implicated in quite a bit of this Trump-Russia Conspiracy, but is there any publically available evidence that points towards him being implicated in it? So far I haven't heard or read anything about Pence meeting with Russian government employees, oligarchs, Kremlin officials, or anything like that. I also haven't seen anything pertaining to him planning on running as Trump's VP very far back in the past, as opposed to Trump announcing a 2016 campaign as far back as 2014. I do hope Pence goes down with Trump and Co. But there needs to be a legit reason for it, not just because people don't like him.[/QUOTE] Pence was the chairman of Trump's transition team. Trump's transition team, like the campaign team before it, turns out to have contained multiple Trump representatives pulling shady shit. Pence needs to provide an explanation of how he remained entirely ignorant of the deep corruption happening constantly around him during the transition. There are no fixed accusations yet, but it raises the question, what did he know, how can it even be possible that the answer is "nothing", and if he did know something when did he know it. He's basically played the role of innocent victim, including not knowing Flynn was lying to him about the Russian contacts he had (he also lied to the FBI about them and that's what Mueller dinged him on). Trump's tweet about firing Flynn because he lied to Pence [I]and[/I] the FBI contradicts what Trump said at the time, so it stands to reason that Pence [I]may[/I] not be telling the truth about anything either.

[QUOTE=luverofJ!93;53170478]Jesus. Its an absolute wonder that anyone has managed to make it this far and still dismiss these damning evidences of misdeeds.[/QUOTE] I grow more cynical with every piece of evidence that comes out and isn't immediately widespread outrage I feel helpless to do anything about the political climate. I don't want to go hardcore and try becoming a politician, and I can't remember a single time that protest or activism worked in the US in the last twenty years I feel like we'll be living in a plutocracy in no time and there's nothing I can do about it I'm not even American so I can't exactly write congress about it.

[QUOTE=spazthemax;53173482]I'm not even American so I can't exactly write congress about it.[/QUOTE] You don't need to. There are Americans, here, who are listening. What you can do beyond that, however, is demand to your politicians that our politicians take action.

At this point this could be a comedy movie about a clumsy investigator who keeps finding evidence accidentally, but they can't prosecute the bad guy because the clumsy investigator keeps finding more and more increasingly worse evidence and [i]nobody can stop him[/i].

[QUOTE=Murkrow;53173829]At this point this could be a comedy movie about a clumsy investigator who keeps finding evidence accidentally, but they can't prosecute the bad guy because the clumsy investigator keeps finding more and more increasingly worse evidence and [i]nobody can stop him[/i].[/QUOTE] The Trumpgate staring Mr. Bean as Robert Mueller