Disney removes princess's 'healthy gumbo' recipe that caused a stir - Polidicks

[QUOTE]A princess-approved recipe for "healthy gumbo" has been removed from a Disney-run Facebook page after the concoction took heat from South Louisiana commenters for its lack of a roux and addition of ingredients like quinoa and kale. Tuesday morning, a NOLA.com|The Times-Picayune article helped call attention to a video recipe for "Tiana's Healthy Gumbo," posted to the official Facebook page for "The Princess and the Frog." The 2009 animated movie featured a New Orleanian princess who ruled with her culinary skills. By Tuesday afternoon, the gumbo recipe had prompted a level of ire that may have surprised Disney but was completely anticipated by anyone familiar with Louisiana folks' passion for food. Opinion pieces were penned, White House petitions were cooked up and as per usual, online commentary was being served piping hot and ready to burn. Tuesday night, the video recipe had been removed but the commentary continued as Facebook users hijacked a threads beneath an unrelated post to dish out still-simmering opinions.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.nola.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/09/disney_removes_princesss_healt.html"]Source[/URL] That recipie is a crime against humanity and should never be passed as "gumbo". There is no such thing as a "healthy gumbo". [video=youtube;OSbqPzRLPY0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSbqPzRLPY0[/video]

Don't really get what the big deal is about stew, but anything that ostricizes kale lovers and points them out for the communists that they are is fine by me

couldn't they have given it another name, even a french name of fake gumbo? Also it has ingredients from outside the south.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;51050447]Don't really get what the big deal is about stew, but anything that ostricizes kale lovers and points them out for the communists that they are is fine by me[/QUOTE] It's not just any stew, just like a Jambalaya isn't a fancy rice dressing, or sushi isn't just fish and rice prepared any way.

Wikipedia: [quote]Gumbo is a stew that originated in southern Louisiana during the 18th century. It consists primarily of a strongly-flavored stock, meat or shellfish, a thickener, and the Cajun holy trinity of vegetables, namely celery, bell peppers, and onions. [B]Gumbo is often categorized by the type of thickener used[/B], the vegetable okra, the Choctaw spice filé powder (dried and ground sassafras leaves), [B]or roux[/B], the French base made of flour and fat. The dish likely derived its name from either a word from a Bantu language for okra (ki ngombo) or the Choctaw word for filé (kombo). Several different varieties exist. Creole gumbo generally contains shellfish, tomatoes, and a thickener. Cajun gumbo is generally based on a dark roux and is spicier, with either shellfish or fowl. Sausage or ham is often added to gumbos of either variety. After the base is prepared, vegetables are cooked down, and then meat is added. The dish simmers for a minimum of three hours, with shellfish and some spices added near the end. If desired, filé powder is added after the pot is removed from heat. Gumbo is traditionally served over rice. [B]A third, lesser-known variety, the meatless gumbo z'herbes,[/B] is essentially a gumbo of slow-cooked greens[B] sometimes thickened with roux[/B], with rice served on the side.[/quote] This is a bullshit manufactured controversy by people with nothing better to complain about. You don't need roux.

I just think people get way too pretentious and defensive over food.

can someone explain to a foreigner what the fuck gumbo is and why what they did was outrageous i'm watching a video about it right now and the guy is fucking up crabs

[QUOTE=bitches;51050553]Wikipedia: This is a bullshit manufactured controversy by people with nothing better to complain about. You don't need roux.[/QUOTE] The reason gumbo z'herbes doesn't always use a roux is because you are cooking the greens down to a mush, which thickens the gumbo. The version in the video is NOT a gumbo z'herbes, but a regular shrimp gumbo, which in fact DOES need either a roux, a lot of okra, or a lot of file. What was in the video was not a gumbo.

Just call it a stew...

[QUOTE=proboardslol;51050554]I just think people get way too pretentious and defensive over food.[/QUOTE] Food forms an important part of peoples' cultural identities. Messing with it is akin to making light of their culture, of course they'd get defensive.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51050590]The reason gumbo z'herbes doesn't always use a roux is because you are cooking the greens down to a mush, which thickens the gumbo. The version in the video is NOT a gumbo z'herbes, but a regular shrimp gumbo, which in fact DOES need either a roux, a lot of okra, or a lot of file. What was in the video was not a gumbo.[/QUOTE] Quinoa is the substitute for the roux. Disney is by far not the first to do this. [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Headhumpy;51050610]Food forms an important part of peoples' cultural identities. Messing with it is akin to making light of their culture, of course they'd get defensive.[/QUOTE] this is like getting upset that pizza culture is in danger because someone made a recipe with heretical quinoa flour instead of wheat

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;51050585]can someone explain to a foreigner what the fuck gumbo is and why what they did was outrageous i'm watching a video about it right now and the guy is fucking up crabs[/QUOTE] imagine if I said this was Beef Wellington and garden salad on sesame seed brioche: [img]http://www.myw-cms.it/amm/immagini/0002/prodotti/4543_imgscheda_hamburger-png.PNG[/img] [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=bitches;51050625]Quinoa is the substitute for the roux. Disney is by far not the first to do this. [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] this is like getting upset that pizza culture is in danger because someone made a recipe with heretical quinoa flour instead of wheat[/QUOTE] I don't get people who are snobs about something like Pizza or grilled cheese. It's literally food made for the laziest of people who don't have taste or feel like cooking and just wanna sit around in their pajama pants with their left ball hanging out while they watch the same rerun of Family Guy on netflix for the 1000th time because they don't feel like investing mental power to trying a new show or movie (this is me by the way)

believe it or not, brioche burger buns are a thing this is like crying about cultural appropriation but with soup thickeners

they sin against the ambrosia of the gods known as gumbo this can not be accepted

[QUOTE=bitches;51050658]believe it or not, brioche burger buns are a thing this is like crying about cultural appropriation but with soup thickeners[/QUOTE] Off topic, but for some reason, I just really hate the word "brioche".

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;51050531]It's missing a roux. You can't call it gumbo if your missing a roux... Its literally the foundation of the entire stew.[/QUOTE] I didn't know what that was and looked it up I've come to the conclusion that there cannot be a healthy gumbo.

I mean. This looks pretty tasty...

[QUOTE=gk99;51050914]I didn't know what that was and looked it up I've come to the conclusion that there cannot be a healthy gumbo.[/QUOTE] here in the south we pride ourselves in putting a stick of butter in every meal

[QUOTE=gk99;51050914]I didn't know what that was and looked it up I've come to the conclusion that there cannot be a healthy gumbo.[/QUOTE] There is no such thing as healthy gumbo. The healthiest it gets is using brown rice instead of white rice. It's like trying to make healthy "fried chicken" by replacing the chicken with broccoli or colliflour. [QUOTE=omarfr;51050919]I mean. This looks pretty tasty...[/QUOTE] It might be, but it's not gumbo.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51050981]There is no such thing as healthy gumbo. The healthiest it gets is using brown rice instead of white rice. It's like trying to make healthy "fried chicken" by replacing the chicken with broccoli or colliflour.[/QUOTE] They replaced a thickener with quinoa. Stop being such a food snob.

I'm not really going to comment about the video because it is what it is, but this is a wonderful opportunity to learn how to make gumbo. I've never learned how to cook it myself and so the videos I've been watching have been pretty enlightening. A few common themes with gumbo seem to be the roux, which is just equal parts flour and oil (or butter, but maybe not olive oil), chicken stock and/or shrimp stock, a "Holy Trinity" of vegetables that is yellow onion, celery, and green bell pepper, and when the gumbo is done you can have it alone, but a lot of people prefer to have it served over rice. Okra, which the word gumbo seems to come from, is surprisingly not required, but if you choose to use it you might want to chop and fry it if you don't like how slimy it is. After that, put in whatever you want that feels right. Cooking gumbo can take either an hour or two, or over a day depending on how much work you're willing to put in to customize it to your liking. It's your gumbo, make it how you like it. You can either buy the stock, or spend a day with a slow-cooker making it exactly to your liking. You can use pre-packaged spices ready to go, or hit the spice rack to whip up your own blend. Gumbo is a dish served with love and detail, as you figure out what ingredients are best liked by you and your family, you learn to make a dish that really brings people together.

Their only mistake was using quinoa. [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] Dat shit be nasty

[QUOTE=bitches;51051001]They replaced a thickener with quinoa. Stop being such a food snob.[/QUOTE] The quinoa was a replacement for the rice, not a thickener. "Stop being such a food snob." - LMAO. This is an argument on the same level as "Stop caring about something more than I do!" [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Hidole555;51051041]I'm not really going to comment about the video because it is what it is, but this is a wonderful opportunity to learn how to make gumbo. I've never learned how to cook it myself and so the videos I've been watching have been pretty enlightening. A few common themes with gumbo seem to be the roux, which is just equal parts flour and oil (or butter, but maybe not olive oil), chicken stock and/or shrimp stock, a "Holy Trinity" of vegetables that is yellow onion, celery, and green bell pepper, and when the gumbo is done you can have it alone, but a lot of people prefer to have it served over rice. Okra, which the word gumbo seems to come from, is surprisingly not required, but if you choose to use it you might want to chop and fry it if you don't like how slimy it is. After that, put in whatever you want that feels right. Cooking gumbo can take either an hour or two, or over a day depending on how much work you're willing to put in to customize it to your liking. It's your gumbo, make it how you like it. You can either buy the stock, or spend a day with a slow-cooker making it exactly to your liking. You can use pre-packaged spices ready to go, or hit the spice rack to whip up your own blend. Gumbo is a dish served with love and detail, as you figure out what ingredients are best liked by you and your family, you learn to make a dish that really brings people together.[/QUOTE] The "slime" breaks down and is what thickens the gumbo base. But my mom does smother chopped okra with onions before using it in a gumbo.

Imagine people getting butthurt over a food Oh

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51051082]The quinoa was a replacement for the rice, not a thickener. "Stop being such a food snob." - LMAO. This is an argument on the same level as "Stop caring about something more than I do!" [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] The "slime" breaks down and is what thickens the gumbo base. But my mom does smother chopped okra with onions before using it in a gumbo.[/QUOTE] you're taking an alternative gumbo recipe as a cultural crime of misappropriated food [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] "you took your... gasp! your OWN TAKE ON A FOOD DISH?? SUCH DISRESPECT! THIS ISN'T THE GUMBO MY MOMMA TAUGHT ME" #notMYgumbo2016

[QUOTE=bitches;51051137]you're taking an alternative gumbo recipe as a cultural crime of misappropriated food [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] "you took your... gasp! your OWN TAKE ON A FOOD DISH?? SUCH DISRESPECT! THIS ISN'T THE GUMBO MY MOMMA TAUGHT ME" #notMYgumbo2016[/QUOTE] It's not even A gumbo, so I don't know what you're talking about.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51051177]It's not even A gumbo, so I don't know what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] not according to your ridiculously stringent gumbo standards how did people get so bored that THIS is what needs public outcry? is it just boredom, or insane priorities?

[QUOTE=bitches;51051137]you're taking an alternative gumbo recipe as a cultural crime of misappropriated food [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] "you took your... gasp! your OWN TAKE ON A FOOD DISH?? SUCH DISRESPECT! THIS ISN'T THE GUMBO MY MOMMA TAUGHT ME" #notMYgumbo2016[/QUOTE] it's not someones own take it's just downright inaccurate

[QUOTE=Vintage Thatguy;51051220]it's not someones own take it's just downright inaccurate[/QUOTE] This is literally manufactured controversy. The only people who care this much are the people who complain about literally everything. I don't see how anyone can justify this like its not that big of a deal at all like its food dude chill out

[QUOTE=proboardslol;51050639]imagine if I said this was Beef Wellington and garden salad on sesame seed brioche: [img]http://www.myw-cms.it/amm/immagini/0002/prodotti/4543_imgscheda_hamburger-png.PNG[/img][/quote] I'd say that's dumb and move on with my life. People who decide that it is literally an attack on their being are insanely stupid and are sad, sad people. When I read "white house petitions" I immediately thought "oh shut the fuck up". [QUOTE=proboardslol;51050639]I don't get people who are snobs about something like Pizza or grilled cheese. It's literally food made for the laziest of people who don't have taste or feel like cooking and just wanna sit around in their pajama pants with their left ball hanging out while they watch the same rerun of Family Guy on netflix for the 1000th time because they don't feel like investing mental power to trying a new show or movie[/QUOTE] People are proud of their city's food for the same reason people are proud of football teams. They don't have to be the one chucking the ball or preparing the meals, but they can still be proud and still weaponize a god damn pizza so that other people feel bad. There's one thing I cannot stand when I meet what I would call a bad New Yorker or Chicagoan, which is when they immediately start bitching about pizza, or they go out of their way to get a pizza sent from Chicago to their house in Las Vegas because that's the [I]real[/I] pizza. Fuck off. I legitimately think that all this pride is something that is far too hyped up. A lot of people love pizza because they love loving pizza and all of the superiority that comes along with it, not because they actually enjoy the pizza. I think the people who genuinely enjoy pizza aren't exploding about it and don't immediately assume that all pizza is trying to copy their pizza. I get sentimentality, and I get liking pizza, and I even get having pizza sent from your favorite restaurant across the country, but I do not get the people who literally get offended.