[QUOTE]Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, a moderate voice who tried to portray himself as the adult in the Republican primary field but failed to win any state but his own, ended his long-shot quest for the presidency on Wednesday, cementing Donald J. Trump’s grip on the presidential nomination.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://nytimes.com/2016/05/05/us/politics/john-kasich.html[/url]
uh oh
Welp, it's just Trump left for the Republicans right? Jesus it really is gonna be voting between the lesser of two evils this coming election season unless Clinton gets charged sooner, leaving Sanders for the Dems.
I, and probably along with the RNC, wish the Republicans had super delegates right about now
Trump is rearing around the corner everybody ARE YOU READY?
The Republican Party has done this to themselves. Years of gridlocking Government and 'Tea Party' bullshit have angered their base, and now an outsider has stolen the nomination right out from under them. Good job.
♫ Ah, can't you see me standin' here
I got my back against the voting machine
I ain't the worst that you've seen
Ah, can't you see what I mean?
Ah, might as well Trump
(Trump)
Might as well Trump
Go ahead an' Trump (Trump)
Go ahead and Trump
Ow oh, hey you
Who said that? (Trump)
Baby, how you been?
You say you don't know
You won't know until you begin [to vote] ♫
This was announced around 11am today. He just made his speech I guess.
[QUOTE=Cmx;50257776]♫ Ah, can't you see me standin' here
I got my back against the voting machine
I ain't the worst that you've seen
Ah, can't you see what I mean?
Ah, might as well Trump
(Trump)
Might as well Trump
Go ahead an' Trump (Trump)
Go ahead and Trump
Ow oh, hey you
Who said that? (Trump)
Baby, how you been?
You say you don't know
You won't know until you begin [to vote] ♫[/QUOTE]
Runnin with the devil, eh?
He's just a gigolo.
Just like he didn't have a chance winning the nominee right?
Oh no but this is DIFFERENT though
A shame. I still would have voted Clinton but if the worst case scenario happens and she lost, atleast she would lose to someone who is tangentially aware of the issues America faces and isn't a completely loony toon like Cruz and Rubio were. Now we have to worry about a Trump presidency.
Bing Bing Bong Bong
I kind of thought he would stick around and take over support from some of the moderates who, I assume, previously supported Cruz.
I never imagined it would go so far. This election bums me out more and more every day.
Increasingly Nervous Man is nervous for the 8th time this year
The Onion's headline is perfect: [URL="http://www.theonion.com/article/report-well-here-we-go-52867"]Well, Here We Go[/URL]
And [URL="http://www.theonion.com/article/nation-was-kind-hoping-different-outcome-when-conc-52869"]Nation Was Kind Of Hoping For Different Outcome When Concerned Citizens Came Together To Make Voices Heard[/URL].
It's bad when satire becomes eclipsed by real life, yeah?
[QUOTE=Laferio;50257805]Just like he didn't have a chance winning the nominee right?
Oh no but this is DIFFERENT though[/QUOTE]
Of course it's different. It's her turn.
[QUOTE=Laferio;50257805]Just like he didn't have a chance winning the nominee right?
[b]Oh no but this is DIFFERENT though[/b][/QUOTE]
I assume that you consider general election polls to be irrelevant, correct?
[QUOTE=Laferio;50257805]Just like he didn't have a chance winning the nominee right?
Oh no but this is DIFFERENT though[/QUOTE]
It actually really is, Trump won't win any state with a large minority population, and he won't win any state with a large liberal population either
This is very good news, it definitely opens the path wide open for Trump to start campaigning to beat Hillary.
Surprisingly, he's going to be the one with the head start, seeing as how Hillary still has to beat Bernie.
[QUOTE=Laferio;50257805]Just like he didn't have a chance winning the nominee right?
Oh no but this is DIFFERENT though[/QUOTE]
[I]Any[/I] Republican would be at a disadvantage against any Democrat right now. Obama's leaving the country in generally decent shape - the economy is doing well, we're fighting fewer wars than in 2008, and there's no real domestic crises going on. And the minority groups that historically vote Democrats have only gotten larger since the Obama-McCain election. Doesn't matter whether you're Donald or Ted or Jeb - if you're running as a Republican right now, you're starting out behind by about 3 million votes in the popular election, and 60-70-ish in the Electoral College.
And Trump will likely do even worse than that. He's divided the Republican party - a considerable number are prepared to vote Clinton, and more still are likely to not vote, or vote third-party. He polls badly with blacks, hispanics, and women - not just "they prefer Hillary" but "they prefer anyone else". He needs Hispanics to have any chance of flipping Florida (all but necessary to win the general election), and that also makes it possible he might lose hold of some southwest states. He needs blacks to have any chance of flipping Virginia or North Carolina, other large swing states, and he might lose other parts of the South from it. He's quite unlikely to flip New York - just look at the absolute number of votes in the primaries, Trump would have come in distant third had that not been broken up by party.
When you consider it this way, it seems likely Hillary might break records for number of EC delegates won.
[QUOTE=matt_caster;50258163]This is very good news, it definitely opens the path wide open for Trump to start campaigning to beat Hillary.
Surprisingly, he's going to be the one with the head start, seeing as how Hillary still has to beat Bernie.[/QUOTE]
Hillary can start focusing on trump now, since Sanders would have to spike in polls up to to about 85% to beat her.
Also this is very bad news, because Donald Trump is the worst candidate
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50257751]I, and probably along with the RNC, wish the Republicans had super delegates right about now[/QUOTE]
So that the parties could engineer a way of stripping voters' rights away and overruling what our democracy has chosen?
[QUOTE=srobins;50258214]So that the parties could engineer a way of stripping voters' rights away and overruling what our democracy has chosen?[/QUOTE]
Yes, exactly. If the people chose Donald Trump, they chose wrong
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50258225]Yes, exactly. If the people chose Donald Trump, they chose wrong[/QUOTE]
What point is there in having a democracy if you're just going to throw a tantrum and call for the current establishment to protect their own interests and override the people's choice just because you don't like it?
[editline]4th May 2016[/editline]
The fact that Donald Trump was elected over the existing establishment candidates only shows how miserably the establishment has failed. People would rather have an unprofessional and flamboyant businessman than a born and bred politician because they know there's zero chance the politician will represent their interests. At least Trump gives them some sliver of hope, like a wildcard, that he'll pull through and do something good for the people. That chance is infinitesimally small, but it exists. That's more than you can say for Cruz and the others.
[QUOTE=srobins;50258237]What point is there in having a democracy if you're just going to throw a tantrum and call for the current establishment to protect their own interests and override the people's choice just because you don't like it?[/QUOTE]
Because I want a liberal platform and not a demagogues platform. Anyway we achieve that is fine by me, I really don't care. Democracy is just the best way to prevent the downfall of a society
The GOP laughed at Trump when he first started his run, they aren't laughing now. The only way this election could get any worse in terms of how big of a shit show its been, is if Clinton got the nomination and then somehow the stars aligned and the FBI THEN decided to push forward an indictment. Now that would be something for the history books.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50258191]Hillary can start focusing on trump now, since Sanders would have to spike in polls up to to about 85% to beat her.
Also this is very bad news, because Donald Trump is the worst candidate[/QUOTE]
Really he's not. Clinton is the worst. She is a corrupt politician who is so cold, she laughed when speaking about defending a guilty child rapist in court in her lawyer days.
[QUOTE=srobins;50258237]The fact that Donald Trump was elected over the existing establishment candidates only shows how miserably the establishment has failed. People would rather have an unprofessional and flamboyant businessman than a born and bred politician because they know there's zero chance the politician will represent their interests. At least Trump gives them some sliver of hope, like a wildcard, that he'll pull through and do something good for the people. That chance is infinitesimally small, but it exists. That's more than you can say for Cruz and the others.[/QUOTE]
Donald Trump has not been chosen over Clinton, Donald Trump has been chosen over Ted Cruz. The Republicans have sat around doing fuckall for the last 6 years and the blue collar people conservatives of this country (who are a little more racist than the party insiders) are upset with them. They weren't going to vote for Clinton or even Bernie sanders anyways. If it came down to Ted Cruz vs. Clinton or even Sanders vs. Cruz, they'd really just have not voted at all. Trump reflects poorly on the republican party, not on Clinton
[editline]4th May 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=matt_caster;50258266]Really he's not. Clinton is the worst. She is a corrupt politician who is so cold, she laughed when speaking about defending a guilty child rapist in court in her lawyer days.[/QUOTE]
And Trump is a racist who wants to build a wall for the express purpose of keeping Mexicans (whom he believes are rapists) out and also wants to ban Muslims from entering the country. He's a demagogue who appeals to the lowest elements of society by inciting hatred against foreigners and Asia by blaming every problem America has on China, Japan, and Korea.
What about that?
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50258279]Donald Trump has not been chosen over Clinton, Donald Trump has been chosen over Ted Cruz. The Republicans have sat around doing fuckall for the last 6 years and the blue collar people conservatives of this country (who are a little more racist than the party insiders) are upset with them. They weren't going to vote for Clinton or even Bernie sanders anyways. If it came down to Ted Cruz vs. Clinton or even Sanders vs. Cruz, they'd really just have not voted at all. Trump reflects poorly on the republican party, not on Clinton[/QUOTE]
I never said anything indicating otherwise.. My comment was about Trump being chosen as the Republican nominee, though it's worth noting there are plenty of independents who will side with Trump over Clinton for the same reasons that conservatives sided with him over the Republican establishment. Clinton represents a stable status quo and Trump represents the possibility for change, which does in a way reflect poorly on Clinton. Adding to this though, if you're so sure that Trump will not be chosen over Clinton, why would you suggest the Republican party needs to implement something as anti-democratic as super delegates just to block him from receiving the nomination?
[editline]4th May 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50258279]And Trump is a racist who wants to build a wall for the express purpose of keeping Mexicans (whom he believes are rapists) out and also wants to ban Muslims from entering the country. He's a demagogue who appeals to the lowest elements of society by inciting hatred against foreigners and Asia by blaming every problem America has on China, Japan, and Korea.
What about that?[/QUOTE]
Can somebody list some racist things Trump has said or done besides wanting to secure the border? I've asked this before and didn't get a response. The ban on Muslims is ignorant and naive but not entirely without reason (just horribly misguided) and I don't think qualifies as racism.
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