Its because no one wants to pay 5 bucks for your music.
This is news?
[QUOTE=Killowatt;27349667]Its because no one wants to pay 5 bucks for your music.[/QUOTE]
You are putting everyone on the same side, which is competely stupid. They are too many reasons that led people to download videos, musics, and games.
[editline]11th January 2011[/editline]
*there, god damnit
[QUOTE=Falchion;27349731]This is news?[/QUOTE]
Well, it's a new study done by MarkMonitor so yeah a bit new
I don't really see the problem in this piracy, if they have a whole album on youtube.
Isn't it extremely dumb to consider every visit to a normal file hosting service site as pirates?
Rapidshare is obviously very actively used for piracy, but FAR FAR FAR from all that activity is piracy. And then as they said, not every visit is a download.
[quote]The top three - RapidShare.com, Megavideo.com and Megaupload.com - generated more than 21 billion visits.[/quote]
I laughed at that. Even while these sites generally do host files involved in piracy, it's going to skew the data ridiculously because a lot of legitimate downloads also occur. A better statistic would be thepiratebay. Obviously not 100% of the torrents on tpb are illegal, but everyone knows a vast majority is. Much more so than Megaupload. Finally the biggest thing I hate about this study:
[quote]Mark Mulligan, an analyst at research firm Forrester, points out that the numbers of visits does not necessarily equate to the number of downloads.[/quote]
And while it didn't track the number of downloads, the wordage is incredibly inflammatory. The first thing that popped into my mind when I say the article was think about all those billions of downloads. To the average Joe, this article is just black and white. 53 billion hits means 53 billion downloads, look how much piracy is hurting our industries!
Finally:
[quote]"Illegal file-sharing is becoming incredibly complex and it is becoming over-burdensome to try and police it," he said.[/quote]
How about industries stop trying to police it, and fix the damn distribution. iTunes is the best thing to have happened to the music industry, and record labels are still bent on ridiculously draconian policies. While I do not like iTunes, it is still a good convenient platform. Take Steam as another example. It's as easy to buy and download your game through Steam as it is to find a torrent and download it. Coupled with good prices, Steam provides another service that is championing the fight against piracy. It's a shame developers (like the music industry) are stuck in the past and keep trying to enforce ridiculous policies and prices yet cry foul about piracy destroying their businesses. These scares have happened before (mixtapes, CDs, etc.) and the industries survived each time and arguably gained more profit after each scare. Obviously internet piracy is a much larger phenomenon, but record labels are still raking in billions of dollars each year. So obviously it isn't that big of an issue.
"markmonitor"
these guys have no idea how to create reliable statistics
there is no kind of empirical research behind this
[editline]11th January 2011[/editline]
[quote=markmonitor.pdf]Accurate and unbiased information describing the scope of online counterfeiting and piracy as an essential prerequisite for safeguarding consumer safety and economic well-being.[/quote]
who's going to provide that data? markmonitor? hah.
[editline]11th January 2011[/editline]
[quote]The bottom line is that online IP theft ultimately affects the most creative and innovative sectors of the economy,[B] contributing to billions in lost revenue and millions of lost jobs.[/B] Protecting IP rights is a critical component of our economic resurgence, and vitally important to our future; stopping the spread of pirated and counterfeit goods is a necessity.[/quote]
holy shit.
I don't know why people defend piracy. It does make someone lose money. How much they are already making is irrelevant. I don't care if you're the guy who is just trying to see what a game is like before you buy it, it's just a fact that many out there are just trying a snag a good game for free.
Well maybe if games and shit weren't overpriced to fuck beyond relief, ahem, Activision...
[QUOTE=Hostel;27352005]I don't know why people defend piracy. It does make someone lose money. How much they are already making is irrelevant. I don't care if you're the guy who is just trying to see what a game is like before you buy it, it's just a fact that many out there are just trying a snag a good game for free.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but the fact is how overplayed the excuses of piracy is. Piracy does lead to lost money, yes, but not in the scope "analysts" and companies say it does. Companies need to get off their fat ass, stop using the excuse that piracy leads to lost jobs and billions of lost dollars, and actually change their ways. Perhaps changing prices to be fairer, or perhaps getting rid of ridiculous usage policies. I buy my games on Steam because it's easy, and I can usually pick up a good deal. What bothers me is ridiculous DRM policies. I didn't purchase ACII for PC because of how much trouble I had with their DRM on Conviction. Why should the regular user suffer so much trouble when a crack can be used to get rid of the DRM? In the end I purchased ACII in store and just applied the damn crack to get right of the stupid DRM.
See that's the point. Companies, stop bitching about lost revenue when you are literally saying "fuck you" to the customers.
Sites not explicitly designed to distribute pirated media but are used for those purposes anyway attract a lot of visits... And? That describes Youtube too, but they seem to have forgotten about that.
I bought my music from iTunes until a few years ago when I got a new computer and realized it doesn't work like steam. I would have had to re-buy all my music. Do you re-buy CDs after you move houses?
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;27352140]Yes, but the fact is how overplayed the excuses of piracy is. Piracy does lead to lost money, yes, but not in the scope "analysts" and companies say it does. Companies need to get off their fat ass, stop using the excuse that piracy leads to lost jobs and billions of lost dollars, and actually change their ways. Perhaps changing prices to be fairer, or perhaps getting rid of ridiculous usage policies. I buy my games on Steam because it's easy, and I can usually pick up a good deal. What bothers me is ridiculous DRM policies. I didn't purchase ACII for PC because of how much trouble I had with their DRM on Conviction. Why should the regular user suffer so much trouble when a crack can be used to get rid of the DRM? In the end I purchased ACII in store and just applied the damn crack to get right of the stupid DRM.
See that's the point. Companies, stop bitching about lost revenue when you are literally saying "fuck you" to the customers.[/QUOTE]
I agree. I don't pirate games because Steam is a convenient and affordable platform that provides multiple benefits to actually purchasing the game, one of which is cloud support. The only games that I could see people pirating that are distributed on Steam are ones of big-name publishers because of their outrageous price tag and draconian DRM.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;27352140]Yes, but the fact is how overplayed the excuses of piracy is. Piracy does lead to lost money, yes, but not in the scope "analysts" and companies say it does. Companies need to get off their fat ass, stop using the excuse that piracy leads to lost jobs and billions of lost dollars, and actually change their ways. Perhaps changing prices to be fairer, or perhaps getting rid of ridiculous usage policies. I buy my games on Steam because it's easy, and I can usually pick up a good deal. What bothers me is ridiculous DRM policies. I didn't purchase ACII for PC because of how much trouble I had with their DRM on Conviction. Why should the regular user suffer so much trouble when a crack can be used to get rid of the DRM? In the end I purchased ACII in store and just applied the damn crack to get right of the stupid DRM.
See that's the point. Companies, stop bitching about lost revenue when you are literally saying "fuck you" to the customers.[/QUOTE]
it's not just the companies fault, because the customers continually say fuck you to them
both sides need to work together to ultimately reduce piracy rather then being at eachothers throats
I thought they used TPB or something when I first saw the article, but rapidshare? Megaupload? Are you fucking serious? I download Morrowind mods from them, for christ's sake.
I get miscellaneous downloads from there. Pirate downloads get taken down quickly.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;27356054]I get miscellaneous downloads from there. Pirate downloads get taken down quickly.[/QUOTE]
More or less. Depends how obscure. I know Rapidshare is cracking down pretty heavily on it, but Megaupload is still really lax about it.
Rapid share and mega upload? I use those all the time for non pirate related stuff. Hell, usually I go with torrents if were to theoretically do this pirating thing.
Piracy? On [b]MY[/b] internet in [b]MY[/b] United States [b]OF AMERICA?[/b]
[b]Its an outrage.[/b]
(Even more republican sounding version)
[b][i]Eeeeets an ooooouuuuutraaaaage[/i][/b]
What a terrible article
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;27352940]I bought my music from iTunes until a few years ago when I got a new computer and realized it doesn't work like steam. I would have had to re-buy all my music. Do you re-buy CDs after you move houses?[/QUOTE]
THat's a lie.
Log into your account, press the "Store" in the top leftish of your window, and then click "Check available downloads"
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;27359641]THat's a lie.
Log into your account, press the "Store" in the top leftish of your window, and then click "Check available downloads"[/QUOTE]
itunes actually is a little bit touchy, I had to reinstall it on a new computer, and a couple of songs I recently purchased had disappeared from that and I had to rebuy them.
then I just started using my evo phone for music
first, shitty article
second:
[img]http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1519285~5de88652d33cebc503f97cc3e5fe80b4/pirated_DVD%20vs%20legal_DVD.jpg[/img]
[editline]11th January 2011[/editline]
are you fucking kidding me
[editline]11th January 2011[/editline]
[img]http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2010/2/18/15/legal-dvd-vs-pirated-copy-25361-1266526187-121.jpg[/img]
there
This 'study' sounds like it was paid for by some recording lobbyist group. It's completely biased bullshit.
[QUOTE=Kalibos;27362091]first, shitty article
second:
[img_thumb]http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1519285~5de88652d33cebc503f97cc3e5fe80b4/pirated_DVD%20vs%20legal_DVD.jpg[/img_thumb]
[editline]11th January 2011[/editline]
are you fucking kidding me
[editline]11th January 2011[/editline]
[img_thumb]http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2010/2/18/15/legal-dvd-vs-pirated-copy-25361-1266526187-121.jpg[/img_thumb]
there[/QUOTE]
It's funny because those blu-ray ads are on some blu-ray movies. And yeah, when i would go over to my parents house to have supper and watch a movie. I am finished my meal before the ad reals are finished.
theres just barely 7 billion people on earth, how can it attract billion(s), especially when like the majority of earths population lives in poop huts
[QUOTE=Wayword;27367282]theres just barely 7 billion people on earth, how can it attract billion(s), especially when like the majority of earths population lives in poop huts[/QUOTE]
Yeah, read it again.
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