Boston Children's Hospital Holds Girl For Months Without Parental Consent - Polidicks

[quote](NaturalNews) A 15-year-old Connecticut girl remains held by Boston Children's Hospital, a victim of the hospital's "kidnap and ransom" operation, traditionally called "K&R." K&R is not usually seen in hospitals, and that's what makes this story so bizarre and disturbing. Boston Children's Hospital kidnapped the teen girl from her Connecticut family nearly 10 months ago under the excuse of a contrived medical diagnosis. Through legal maneuvering, the hospital managed to gain legal custody of the girl, and the "ransom demand" is the demand that the parents stop trying to remove the girl from the hospital so that Boston Children's can generate maximum revenue from so-called "treatments" which have so far accomplished nothing. "It is kidnapping," said the girl's father, Lou Pelletier. "It's beyond any wildest nightmare that you could think of." The clinical psychologist known by the family says, "It's the most bizarre situation ... I've ever been involved with." After the contrived diagnosis by the hospital, both parents "were escorted out of the hospital by security, and within four days, they lost custody of Justina," reports FoxCT.com. This perfectly fits the definition of what Boston Children's Hospital has done to the Pelletier family. The hospital has [B]no legitimate legal authority to assume control over a family's teenage daughter[/B], especially when the parents were so actively concerned and involved in the child's wellbeing. The custody they claim to have now is based entirely on fraud and misrepresentation, thereby making the custody fraudulent. The hospital cited "both parents' resistance towards recommended treatment plans" as part of its justification for kidnapping the girl for nearly 10 months. Make sure you fully grasp what this means: IF YOU DO NOT AGREE with a doctor's diagnosis of your child, the hospital will kidnap that child for an indefinite period, and local law enforcement authorities will very likely side with the hospital rather than the parents (because cops are easily intimidated by doctors). [/quote] [url=http://www.naturalnews.com/042999_boston_childrens_hospital_child_kidnapping_justina_pelletier.html#]Source #1[/url] [url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/20/its-kidnapping-hospital-takes-custody-of-teen-because-her-parents-were-too-active-in-pursuing-her-care/]Background[/url] [quote]Justina was diagnosed with mitochondrial disease a few years ago. It’s a genetic disorder that can cause loss of muscle coordination and weakness. Despite that diagnosis she lived a normal life. But last February, she also got the flu and was admitted to Boston Children’s Hospital to see her specialist. Almost immediately, a different team of doctors delivered a different diagnosis, questioning the original diagnosis of mitochondrial disease. “They came in, and they said we cannot take Justina out of the hospital. They called DCF,” says Linda Pelletier, Justina’s mother. They said Justina had “somatoform disorder.” In short, they were saying she suffered from a mental illness, not mitochondrial disease. Her parents, Lou and Linda Pelletier, were escorted out of the hospital by security, and within four days, they lost custody of Justina.[/quote]

This can't be real, surely.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44119385]This can't be real, surely.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/parents-accuse-mass-hospital-locking-daughter-psych-ward-article-1.1609998]A couple[/url] [url=http://www.inquisitr.com/1153296/justina-pelletier-childrens-services-breaks-silence-in-the-kidnapping-case/]more[/url] [url=http://guardianlv.com/2014/02/massachusetts-kidnapping-solved/]sources[/url] for those concerned

If the only source was 'Nature News' I'd just assume that this is the ramblings of some 'big-pharma' conspiracy nut. What they need is a second or third diagnosis from another non-affiliated hospital to prove they're actually no 'big-pharma' nuts

How very backwards of a Hospital...

This source looks quite iffy, and the article extremely sensationalist.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;44119488]This source looks quite iffy, and the article extremely sensationalist.[/QUOTE] I added more sources

It's a crappy situation sure, but the original article is so biased it's not funny. This is rather uncommon since most parents work with their doctors to help their kids, they don't often fight them to stop treatment.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;44119488]This source looks quite iffy, and the article extremely sensationalist.[/QUOTE] There are a few more trustworthy sources 3 posts up. But things like this are why I'm really against for-profit hospitals, they literally kidnapped someone to extort treatment money from the parents. Some of the shit they do, and looks like they're going to get away with, is ridiculous.

what on earth is going on... i mean this is just weird, also the girl doesn't seem to have ever had any sort of mental problems how can a team of doctors just say that she's mentally ill when she clearly is not.... there's got to be more to this story that just isn't reported [editline]3rd March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;44119978]There are a few more trustworthy sources 3 posts up. But things like this are why I'm really against for-profit hospitals, they literally kidnapped someone to extort treatment money from the parents. Some of the shit they do, and looks like they're going to get away with, is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] like the article and everybody else in the sources say, this isn't practice of hospitals in the U.S., its just some weird shit here

If a hospital can act like this I'll assume everything they have going on in there is a complete nightmare. I really hope that girl gets out okay, nobody should have to put up with being in a hospital without their consent or even parent's consent, especially for nearly 10 damn months. Hopefully those parents stop paying any hospital bills. The last thing they should do is give in to the demands of these terrible people, it will only feed this "Maximum Revenue" hunger they are getting.

Man how can this even happen? Last I heard children were still dying because whatever procedure they needed was against their parents' religion.

[QUOTE=Sableye;44120217]... like the article and everybody else in the sources say, this isn't practice of hospitals in the U.S., its just some weird shit here[/QUOTE] No, stuff like this can happen whenever the patents refuse treatment.

[quote]so that Boston Children's can generate maximum revenue from so-called "treatments" which have so far accomplished nothing[/quote] I don't understand how they're making money off this?

This sounds like something from a House M.D. episode.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44121313]I don't understand how they're making money off this?[/QUOTE] This had nothing to do with money. The COURT system took custody away from the parents, not the hospital. If there's anyone to get angry at it's the courts and judge making the decision.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44121313]I don't understand how they're making money off this?[/QUOTE] source #1 says they ultimately bill the parents for the "treatments" but that's in the same article that also makes such beautiful statements as this [QUOTE]This is why you should NEVER take your child to a conventional hospital unless it's an absolutely life-and-death emergency. Even then, prepare to be accused of harming your own child and then escorted at gunpoint out of the hospital if you don't 100% agree with the diagnosis of some drug-pushing doctor who's more than likely receiving financial kickbacks from psychiatric drug manufacturers.[/QUOTE] not sure if the fourth and fifth also agree since i haven't checked them but either way whoever writes naturalnews is quite clearly insane

If this happened to me I would take my kid back with force.

this is what happens when hospitals aren't state funded.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44121313]I don't understand how they're making money off this?[/QUOTE] Hospitals generate "RVU's" basically "credits" depending on what treatments they provide. The more "RVU's" that a Hospital generates the more funding will be allocated to the Hospital and more bonuses and pay to be given to Physicians. I'm assuming this is what they're referencing.

I don't know about this article, I live in MA and all the people I know who've been there have only had good experiences. I feel like they're exaggerating and something else is going on, BCH isn't some evil mad scientist corporation doing experiments on people's kids.

I was also kept in a hospital against my and my family's will a long time ago, when your mental health comes into question it's like you lose all your rights. I really feel for the girl and the parents.

[QUOTE=meek;44125268]I was also kept in a hospital against my and my family's will a long time ago, when your mental health comes into question it's like you lose all your rights. I really feel for the girl and the parents.[/QUOTE] Well I don't know how it is in Portugal but in the USA you can be placed involuntarily on a psychiatric hold with every 24 hour re-assessment if you're an immediate danger to yourself or others.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44121313]I don't understand how they're making money off this?[/QUOTE] Because american hospitals are for profit, which is backwards as fuck.

[QUOTE=lolo;44120310]If a hospital can act like this I'll assume everything they have going on in there is a complete nightmare. I really hope that girl gets out okay, nobody should have to put up with being in a hospital without their consent or even parent's consent, especially for nearly 10 damn months. Hopefully those parents stop paying any hospital bills. The last thing they should do is give in to the demands of these terrible people, it will only feed this "Maximum Revenue" hunger they are getting.[/QUOTE] A hospital can't act like this, unless there's an immediate medical concern - child is loosing lots of blood, parents refusing to allow a transfusion. The doctor can go and do it agaisnt their will. If there's a long term medical problem though and the parents are refusing treatment, it has to go trough a court via social services. So I'm very strongly assuming that something like this has actually happened, and there is actually a fairly good reason why the hospital acted in the way it has acted. Considering the first source is naturalnews, which seems to religiously worship alternative medicine, it's possible that the parents were fans of it as well and gave wrong or insufficient medical care to the daughter. Hence social services stepped in. [QUOTE=viperfan7;44125458]Because american hospitals are for profit, which is backwards as fuck.[/QUOTE] For profit hospitals also exist in countries with NHS. The thing is, there's still a lot of care they must legally provide even if it's not as lucrative.

[QUOTE=wraithcat;44126221]If there's a long term medical problem though and the parents are refusing treatment, it has to go trough a court via social services. So I'm very strongly assuming that something like this has actually happened, and there is actually a fairly good reason why the hospital acted in the way it has acted. Considering the first source is naturalnews, which seems to religiously worship alternative medicine, it's possible that the parents were fans of it as well and gave wrong or insufficient medical care to the daughter. Hence social services stepped in.[/QUOTE] Whether right or not, this is exactly what happened. The court system took custody away from the parents because of "medical abuse." All the idiots talking about for profit hospitals have no idea wtf they're talking about.

The original doctor said she had one disease, and her life was going normally. Another doctor came in and said that she had a mental disorder instead, said she was being over-medicated, and that her parents are negligent for following the diagnosis of her original doctor. So the state, and their doctors, came in, took the child, and are treating her for the disease they think she has instead of the one her original doctor said she has. Basically one of those situations where the state being involved in medicine goes horribly wrong, because if the medications were helping her, then clearly it wasn't a bad diagnosis.

Okay so I decided to read the entirety of the source and just look at this shit [quote="Source"] This is the ultimate medical tyranny. You are witnessing hospitals transition into paramilitary medical enforcement detection centers where all medicine is administered at gunpoint and parents are escorted away from their children by husky, heavily-armed "security officers." When it comes to children, vaccines, chemotherapy and psychiatric drugs are all weapons of destruction used as tools domination and control. Doctors now believe they alone have the intelligence to decide what's best for children, even at the expense of violating families, parental rights, individual liberty and medical common sense. This is why you should NEVER take your child to a conventional hospital unless it's an absolutely life-and-death emergency. Even then, prepare to be accused of harming your own child and then escorted at gunpoint out of the hospital if you don't 100% agree with the diagnosis of some drug-pushing doctor who's more than likely receiving financial kickbacks from psychiatric drug manufacturers. [/quote] Yeah, these guys are insane. 100% confident there's more to the story than this source is letting on.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44126936]... Basically one of those situations where the state being involved in medicine goes horribly wrong, because if the medications were helping her, then clearly it wasn't a bad diagnosis.[/QUOTE] Well no it can still be a bad diagnosis because the medications could be treating the symptoms, but not the actual cause.

[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;44129664]Well no it can still be a bad diagnosis because the medications could be treating the symptoms, but not the actual cause.[/QUOTE] In this case, there is no cure for the disease, so treating the symptoms is probably the best you're going to do.