[QUOTE]Russia’s latest civil airliner carrying 44 passengers has disappeared from the radars during its demonstrative flight in the Indonesian capital
The aircraft has not returned to the airport at the scheduled time following takeoff. By that time, the fuel should have been totally spent.
Shortly before going off the radar, the crew of the aircraft had asked for permission to descend, Russia’s RIA Novosti news agency quotes an Indonesian aviation official as saying.
It got permission to descend from an altitude of 10,000 feet down to 6,000, moving downwards in a rightward direction. According to the official, there is a 6,200 foot-high mountain in the area where the plane went missing.
However, Indonesian aviation authorities haven’t ruled out that the aircraft was hijacked.
There were 44 people onboard, including 8 Russians and 36 citizens from other countries – mostly representatives from major airline companies.
The aircraft was operated by a Russian crew.
The latest reports suggest none of those onboard can be reached by telephone.
The Russian aircraft arrived in Indonesia on May 9 – the fourth stop on its Asian demonstrative tour, which includes six countries in total. The plane had previously visited Myanmar, Pakistan and Kazakhstan. After Jakarta it was supposed to go to two more Asian countries – Laos and Vietnam.
The aircraft has already made two half-hour long demonstrative flights in Jakarta. The first time it took to the skies, flight attendants from the Sky Aviation airliner, representatives from “VEB-Leasing” company, and others from a Russian insurance agency were on board. During its second flight, the aircraft took the potential buyers– representatives from Indonesia’s Batavia, Pelita, Air Aviastar, and Sriwijaya Air.
We will bring you more details as soon as the information comes in.[/QUOTE]
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[B]*Developing story*[/B]
[B]Hijacking not ruled out.[/B]
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Educated guess says they all died, RIP.
This was a very sophisticated before full production airliner that had advanced avionics on par with Boeings offerings.
[QUOTE][B]Shortly before going off the radar, the crew of the aircraft had asked for permission to descend, Russia’s RIA Novosti news agency quotes an Indonesian aviation official as saying.
It got permission to descend from an altitude of 10,000 feet down to 6,000, moving downwards in a rightward direction. According to the official, there is a 6,200 foot-high mountain in the area where the plane went missing. [/B][/QUOTE]
That sounds suspiciously like pilot error or a hijacking, since it was lost on radar just before they requested a decent.
I've a feeling its pilot error.
[QUOTE=shian;35886207]I've a feeling its pilot error.[/QUOTE]
what else can you tell us about this event, detective?
It's a stealth passenger plane!
Probably slammed into the mountain, poor bastards. Seems a bit unlikely it was hijacked if most people on board were airline company representatives, though it's certainly not impossible.
[quote]According to the official, there is a 6,200 foot-high mountain in the area where the plane went missing. [/quote]
Seems like a good place to start looking for it, unfortunately...
[quote]It got permission to descend from an altitude of 10,000 feet down to 6,000, moving downwards in a rightward direction. According to the official, there is a 6,200 foot-high mountain in the area where the plane went missing.[/quote]
Why would you give a plane permission to descend below a mountain top anywhere near it?
That plane design looks pretty old.
[QUOTE=adam1172;35887370]That plane design looks pretty old.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, I think it looks kind of sexy.
It probably hit a mountain... it wasn't hijacked.
[QUOTE=salmonmarine;35887557]I don't know, I think it looks kind of sexy.[/QUOTE]
I still hate the wing-pods on all modern airliners, the comet was the sexiest commercial jet ever to fly.
And to be honest, if it was hijacked wouldn't there have been some communication from the hijackers?
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However, Indonesian aviation authorities haven’t ruled out that the aircraft was hijacked.
There were 44 people onboard, including 8 Russians and 36 citizens from other countries – mostly representatives from major airline companies.
The aircraft was operated by a Russian crew.
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article seems to relate russian crew with hijacking
anyone else took it this way ;p?
[QUOTE=icemaz;35887197]Why would you give a plane permission to descend below a mountain top anywhere near it?[/QUOTE]
The Air control operators usually don't have any fancy high-tech screen with geographic map with dots representing planes. All they have is a small radar screen that only shows the plane's coordinates, direction, and altitude.
Secret soviet tech test.
[editline]9th May 2012[/editline]
Not sure if radar cloaking or anti aircraft weapon.
[QUOTE=adam1172;35887370]That plane design looks pretty old.[/QUOTE]
The basic structural design of commercial passanger aircraft hasn't changed since the 60's. There's a significant risk factor involved in changing the design, and companies arn't prepared to take this risk.
[QUOTE=V12US;35886255]It's a stealth passenger plane![/QUOTE]
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EuHEDwCmE1I/TDYUhcz5NpI/AAAAAAAAC7Q/0YSf1w6EiHY/s1600/stealth_ver4.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=smeismastger;35889594]The Air control operators usually don't have any fancy high-tech screen with geographic map with dots representing planes. All they have is a small radar screen that only shows the plane's coordinates, direction, and altitude.[/QUOTE]
yup... you have to combine coordinate data with a geographical map to get an accurate idea of a plane's position compared to the terrain, and that's guesswork at best since topo maps aren't exactly known for resolution.
[QUOTE=adam1172;35887370]That plane design looks pretty old.[/QUOTE]
Looks like a modern Airbus/Embraer/Boeing passenger jet.
It's a pretty new aircraft.
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looks pretty comfortable while maintaining traditional soviet cockpit blues.
They still havent found the plane yet.
aliens
I don't fully understand the difficulty in locating the plane.
Civil aviation uses secondary RADAR systems, which can operate over huge distances because they don't need to worry about noise as much and similar issues.
Secondary RADAR systems gather additional information from the transponders on aircraft based on the instruments on the aircraft. This allows for accurate measurements of location without necessarily perfect RADAR detection. It also means that the radar screen only needs to display things that respond to your transponder request, making false positives on RADAR contacts relatively rare.
They were within range of such a system, as they requested permission to change altitude, which isn't something you really need to do if nobody is controlling air traffic in that region.
They should have been within contact up until shortly before impact in such case. Plus, following the impact, you have a giant ball of burning jet fuel on top of a mountain. That should be reasonably easy to find.
Unless it wound up in the ocean, I'm not sure why they would have a hard time here.
[QUOTE=Uncle Bourbon;35889995]Looks like a modern Airbus/Embraer/Boeing passenger jet.
It's a pretty new aircraft.[/QUOTE]
Well, it looks like a 737-100/200 to me.
[QUOTE=smeismastger;35889594]The Air control operators usually don't have any fancy high-tech screen with geographic map with dots representing planes. All they have is a small radar screen that only shows the plane's coordinates, direction, and altitude.[/QUOTE]
What I don't get though is that ATC workers would be used to the area they're controlling (assuming it's not their first day), so they should know from experience working in that area that there are hazards (ie mountains) nearby.
It honestly sounds like a case of neglect, resulting in a tragic accident.
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