New York City's Mayor Wants to Ban Sugary Drinks over 16oz - Polidicks

Source: [url]http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Bloomberg-Sugary-Drinks-Ban-Proposal-New-York-City-Restaurants-Dining-155854725.html[/url] [quote] Mayor Bloomberg is proposing a sweeping ban on all sugary drinks larger than 16 ounces sold in restaurants, movie theaters, food carts and ballpark concession stands, NBC 4 New York has confirmed. The proposed first-in-the-nation ban would impose a 16-ounce limit on the size of sweetened drinks sold at restaurants, movie theaters, sports venues and street carts. It would apply to bottled drinks as well as fountain sodas. The ban, which could take effect as soon as March, would not apply to diet sodas, fruit juices, dairy-based drinks or alcoholic beverages. Nor would it include drinks sold in grocery or convenience stores. Food establishments that don't downsize would face fines of $200. The rule does not limit establishments from offering free refills or stop one person from buying more than one sugary drink in a smaller size. The New York Times first reported the effort late Wednesday. Bloomberg told the paper "obesity is a nationwide problem, and all over the United States, public health officials are wringing their hands saying, ‘Oh, this is terrible.'" “New York City is not about wringing your hands; it’s about doing something,” he added. “I think that’s what the public wants the mayor to do.” More than half of city adults are overweight or obese, according to the Health Department. In a statement Wednesday night, the New York City Beverage Association said the city was wrongly targeting soft drinks as a driver of obesity rates and it was "time for serious health professionals to move on and seek solutions that are going to actually curb obesity." The proposal requires the approval of the city's Board of Health, which is considered likely because its members are all appointed by Bloomberg. The city says no other authorization beyond the Board of Health is required; its calorie-posting rule and letter grade requirements for restaurants were established through the same process. It is set to be submitted to the board on June 12, and will then undergo a three-month comment period before the board votes. Restaurants and establishments would then get six months from that time before any violations would be issued. The proposal envisions a $200 fine for violations. It's not the first time the mayor has tried to limit consumption of sugary drinks by city residents: in 2010, he proposed that food stamps be prevented from being used for sugary drinks. He said at the time it would have done "more to protect people from the crippling effects of preventable illnesses like diabetes and obesity than anything being proposed anywhere else in this country." His request was denied by the federal government. [/quote] What a dumb idea... Couldn't this effort be put towards something more useful?

Because banning drinks worked out so well last time we tried.

But you could you buy twice as much so it really wouldn't work. It would just produce more waste.

Yeah I also really think you should measure them in liters instead like the rest of the world which is reasonable does.

If these people want health problems, let them do what they like. Builders aren't banned from building just because they inhale a load of dust... commuters aren't banned from walking on the street just because they inhale pollution. Non-obese people can have heart conditions too.

Mayor: *Bans drinks over 16 oz* Citizen: *Buys two 16 oz drinks* Banning something never solves the problem. The prohibition movement in the early 20th century kinda proved that.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;36141809]Yeah I also really think you should measure them in liters instead like the rest of the world which is reasonable does.[/QUOTE] You must be part of that newfangled AFCA (Activists for a Conforming America), huh? Well fuck you buddy. We won the right to be stupid 200-some odd years ago, and for some reason we're still doing it. Seriously why the hell can't we go metric?

Next we'll see a complete national ban, and then people bootlegging soda and then people will be arrested for soda selling crimes. This is going to be outrageous!

How the hell do you measure volume in ounces anyway? Wouldn't it change entirely depending on what fluid you're measure?

Just tax it heavily.

[QUOTE=Rents;36141874]How the hell do you measure volume in ounces anyway? Wouldn't it change entirely depending on what fluid you're measure?[/QUOTE] An ounce of coke is an ounce of milk is an ounce of gasoline is an ounce of lava. The ounce in question is a unit of volume just like the liter, and a 16oz soda can holds the same volume of liquid regardless of what liquid you put in it. It will weigh more or less depending on the density of the liquid contained though.

[QUOTE=J!NX;36141866]Next we'll see a complete national ban, and then people bootlegging soda and then people will be arrested for soda selling crimes. This is going to be outrageous![/QUOTE] They will include it in the 'war on drugs' and you'll be charged with possession of Pepsi. This just in: Drug cartels smuggle 2000L of coca-cola over the border!

[QUOTE=blackfire88;36142626]They will include it in the 'war on drugs' and you'll be charged with possession of Pepsi. This just in: Drug cartels smuggle 2000L of coca-cola over the border![/QUOTE] Brings a whole new meaning to the words "coke dealer"

[QUOTE=TestECull;36142603]An ounce of coke is an ounce of milk is an ounce of gasoline is an ounce of lava. The ounce in question is a unit of volume just like the liter, and a 16oz soda can holds the same volume of liquid regardless of what liquid you put in it. It will weigh more or less depending on the density of the liquid contained though.[/QUOTE] One ounce of water is the same volume as one ounce of milk, even if they're they're different densities? That doesn't make sense, they'd have to either be not one ounce, or not the same volume.

[QUOTE=TestECull;36142603]An ounce of coke is an ounce of milk is an ounce of gasoline is an ounce of lava. The ounce in question is a unit of volume just like the liter, and a 16oz soda can holds the same volume of liquid regardless of what liquid you put in it. It will weigh more or less depending on the density of the liquid contained though.[/QUOTE] An ounce is a unit of mass, not volume, or at least was last time I used a retarded unit of measurement. An ounce of molten basalt is going to take up an entirely different volume to an ounce of water.

[QUOTE=venn178;36141830]Seriously why the hell can't we go metric?[/QUOTE] Because America wants to be special. Like retarded people.

You can't measure FREEDOM in METRIC [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/YfUCA.jpg[/IMG]

I don't care I'll just drink earl grey and orange juice

[QUOTE=Terminutter;36142768]An ounce is a unit of mass, not volume, or at least was last time I used a retarded unit of measurement. An ounce of molten basalt is going to take up an entirely different volume to an ounce of water.[/QUOTE] It is a fluid ounce, completely different to a normal ounce.

ban sodas from being purchased with food stamps

Hey man, soda is one of the few places we actually use metric. 2-liter bottles and shit.

Fluid ounces are a measure of volume based on the density of water, the saying "a pint is a pound the world around" is an example of this. 1 pint is 16 fluid ounces while a pound is 16 ounces. Easy to remember based on this little saying that water has a density of 1 ounce per fl. ounce. [editline]31st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=DarkMonkey;36147500]Hey man, soda is one of the few places we actually use metric. 2-liter bottles and shit.[/QUOTE] Yeah, for the most part bottles come in liters so you wouldn't even be able to but many kinds of soda from even vending machines as all those are 16.9 ounce, half liters, which I think is the whole point of this.

[QUOTE=An Armed Bear;36141746]Because banning drinks worked out so well last time we tried.[/QUOTE] That might at least bring some class back into our nation's gangs.

When my mom told me this news I laughed. People should be educated about health and fitness, not ban unhealthy things. Eventually it would be like 1984 where the government only gives to the populace what they deem fit

So let's punish people who don't guzzle it down at once! Yay!

[QUOTE=venn178;36141830]You must be part of that newfangled AFCA (Activists for a Conforming America), huh? Well fuck you buddy. We won the right to be stupid 200-some odd years ago, and for some reason we're still doing it. Seriously why the hell can't we go metric?[/QUOTE] We did. The federal government measures things in metric where possible and reasonable. The problem is that the federal government can't legally force the states to turn to metric and each individual state doesn't want to go metric and isolate themselves from the rest of the US. Basically in order to properly convert over to metric, all of our state level governments would have to agree to do so at once. Now some states might be willing to do this, buuuuut the majority would likely resist the change.

[QUOTE=venn178;36141830]Seriously why the hell can't we go metric?[/QUOTE] Cost too much money to change the infrastructure. All of our roads, for example, are currently laid out by miles and city blocks (or at least are supposed to be).

[QUOTE=squids_eye;36147302]It is a fluid ounce, completely different to a normal ounce.[/QUOTE] Took fucking hours to say this. A fluid ounce (fl oz) is volume, a normal ounce (oz) is mass. [editline]31st May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=GunFox;36147958]We did. The federal government measures things in metric where possible and reasonable. The problem is that the federal government can't legally force the states to turn to metric and each individual state doesn't want to go metric and isolate themselves from the rest of the US. Basically in order to properly convert over to metric, all of our state level governments would have to agree to do so at once. Now some states might be willing to do this, buuuuut the majority would likely resist the change.[/QUOTE] That is a perfectly reasonable description that fully answers the question. Thank you.

What the hell is 16oz in metric? 1 litre?

[QUOTE=HorizoN;36148715]What the hell is 16oz in metric? 1 litre?[/QUOTE] Google is wonderful for these kinds of questions. 16oz is .47L