New Snowden leak: NSA collects data on American citizens and elected officials, then ships it off to - Polidicks

[URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents"]Source[/URL] [quote][B]The National Security Agency routinely shares raw intelligence data with [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/israel"]Israel[/URL] without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens[/B], [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/sep/11/nsa-israel-intelligence-memorandum-understanding-document"]a top-secret document provided to the Guardian[/URL] by whistleblower Edward Snowden reveals. Details of the intelligence-sharing agreement are laid out in a memorandum of understanding between the [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/nsa"]NSA[/URL] and its Israeli counterpart that shows the US government handed over intercepted communications likely to contain phone calls and emails of American citizens. [B]The agreement places no legally binding limits on the use of the data by the Israelis[/B].[...] Although the memorandum is explicit in saying the material had to be handled in accordance with US law, and that the Israelis agreed not to deliberately target Americans identified in the data, these rules are not backed up by legal obligations. "This agreement is not intended to create any legally enforceable rights and shall not be construed to be either an international agreement or a legally binding instrument according to international law," the document says. [...] Notably, a much stricter rule was set for US government communications found in the raw intelligence. The Israelis were required to "destroy upon recognition" any communication "that is either to or from an official of the US government". [B]Such communications included those of "officials of the executive branch (including the White House, cabinet departments, and independent agencies), the US House of Representatives and Senate (member and staff) and the US federal court system (including, but not limited to, the supreme court)".[/B] [...] Although Israel is one of America's closest allies, it is not one of the inner core of countries involved in surveillance sharing with the US - Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. This group is collectively known as Five Eyes. The relationship between the US and Israel has been strained at times, both diplomatically and in terms of intelligence. In the top-secret 2013 intelligence community budget request, [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/black-budget-summary-details-us-spy-networks-successes-failures-and-objectives/2013/08/29/7e57bb78-10ab-11e3-8cdd-bcdc09410972_story.html"]details of which were disclosed by the Washington Post[/URL], Israel is identified alongside Iran and China as a target for US cyberattacks. While NSA documents tout the mutually beneficial relationship of Sigint sharing, another report, marked top secret and dated September 2007, states that the relationship, while central to US strategy, has become overwhelmingly one-sided in favor of Israel. "Balancing the Sigint exchange equally between US and Israeli needs has been a constant challenge," states the report, titled 'History of the US – Israel Sigint Relationship, Post-1992'. "In the last decade, it arguably tilted heavily in favor of Israeli security concerns. 9/11 came, and went, with NSA's only true Third Party [counter-terrorism] relationship being driven almost totally by the needs of the partner." [B]In another top-secret document seen by the Guardian, dated 2008, a senior NSA official points out that Israel aggressively spies on the U[/B]S. "On the one hand, the Israelis are extraordinarily good Sigint partners for us, but on the other, they target us to learn our positions on Middle East problems," the official says. "A NIE [National Intelligence Estimate] ranked them as the third most aggressive intelligence service against the US." Later in the document, the official is quoted as saying: [B]"One of NSA's biggest threats is actually from friendly intelligence services, like Israel[/B]. There are parameters on what NSA shares with them, but the exchange is so robust, we sometimes share more than we intended."[/quote] when will snowden be brought to justice.....

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nice real nice

So does this mean the NSA and the CIA are enemies now? I know the CIA hates it when Mossad fucks with their operations. :v:

What the hell is Israel going to do with this anyway? They aren't going to catch anything the US doesn't.

Why would the NSA even do this?

I have no words, if this doesn't strike you as going to far, then by all means I give up.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];42160191']What the hell is Israel going to do with this anyway? They aren't going to catch anything the US doesn't.[/QUOTE] Israel likes to mine data on everyone. They were set to [URL="http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/business/ireland-seeks-to-block-israel-access-to-data-on-eu-citizens-1.301180"]acquire data on EU citizens until Ireland said no[/URL].

Just why???

How disrespectful.

And there we have it

Looks like we're just a commodity to the Israelis.

[QUOTE=AmericanInfantry;42160238]Looks like we're just a commodity to the [i]military industrial complex.[/i][/QUOTE] Fixed that for you

/pol/ is going to EXPLODE

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;42160250]Fixed that for you[/QUOTE] Thanks. But I believe you mean the military-industrial [I]regime[/I]. :v:

[QUOTE=Starpluck;42160160] when will snowden be brought to justice.....[/QUOTE]When will America start using justice?

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42160182]So does this mean the NSA and the CIA are enemies now? I know the CIA hates it when Mossad fucks with their operations. :v:[/QUOTE] Lets put it ths way. NSA = Solicitors going door-to-door taking data CIA = creepy man across the street in the bushes watching you

[QUOTE=Gatsby;42160259]/pol/ is going to EXPLODE[/QUOTE] [URL="http://888chan.org/cow/src/137571252973.gif"]I have no idea what you're talking about.[/URL]

so anybody could be in the NSA? EVEN MY GYM TEACHER??? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/LoEDvxg.jpg[/IMG]

I don't particularly understand why it's a bad thing snowden hasn't been caught yet.

Soon Sobotnik, our local JIDF rep, will come in and explain to us how this is all a big misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=Lexinator;42160360]I don't particularly understand why it's a bad thing snowden hasn't been caught yet.[/QUOTE] It's sarcasm.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;42160362]Soon Sobotnik, our local JIDF rep, will come in and explain to us all how this is all a big misunderstanding.[/QUOTE] yup, I'm sure it's nothing important :downs:

Can't say I'm too surprised. With a powerful program like that, they're going to find other uses for it.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;42160250]Fixed that for you[/QUOTE] Do you now how childish that looks?

[QUOTE=Swilly;42160390]Do you now how childish that looks?[/QUOTE] Childish LOOKING or not, it's fairly accurate

I really think the NSA missed out on a great oppurtunity. Mainly, not going through our emails and such, but instead looking at our public facebook posts/twitter posts to gauge things like happiness, issues, polling, economic conditions. Just imagine the great census data that can come out of that. [editline]11th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=SIRIUS;42160406]Childish LOOKING or not, it's fairly accurate[/QUOTE] Its not. It really isn't. This isn't some massive industrial complex. Its literally governments handing shit over to eachother. Which is just as fucking bad.

[QUOTE=Gatsby;42160259]/pol/ is going to EXPLODE[/QUOTE] literally the first thing I thought of I cannot fathom why this is even a thing like jesus fucking shit

[QUOTE=luck_or_loss;42160211]Just why???[/QUOTE] Jews own part of america? Atleast thats what i hear...

I feel like I should be angry but my anger has burned out a long time ago and has been replaced with a sense of dread and doom, a dread that this will never be fixed.