[QUOTE]This is the shocking moment a disabled man in a wheelchair was shot dead in the street by Delaware police.
Officers had been responding to a 911 call that someone had attempted to shoot themselves, when they arrived to find Jeremy McDole 'still armed with a handgun.'
Cops opened fire on McDole, who was paralyzed from the waist down after being shot by a friend aged 18, after repeated requests for him to 'drop the gun.'
McDole's mother, Phyllis, has criticized the shooting as 'unjust' during a police news conference.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3248321/Police-kill-disabled-man-wheelchair-Delaware-street-responding-911-call-tried-shoot-himself.html[/url]
To be fair. I've played bloodborne...
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("snipe" - Orkel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE]Jessie, sydney, Australia, about 4 hours ago
The man in the wheelchair put himself in that position. How are the Police suppose to know what he was reaching for in his pocket? These police have loved one's at home, possibly children that depend on them and they have to defend themselves. They were attending the scene because the man had a gun so I think they acted correctly. The fact the man was in a wheelchair has nothing to do with this situation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]LeKoos, TulsaOK, United States, about 4 hours ago
You can still shoot a gun while its in your pant pocket!! He obviously wanted to die- he wouldn't care one bit if he took a cop or two with him. Those officers deserve to go home to their families after a day of dealing with the "crazies".[/QUOTE]
gotta love those comments
also, better context from the article itself
[QUOTE]'He pulled out his gun. He was trying to shoot himself up there,' Sean Owens, who was at the scene, told NBC Philadelphia. 'I think he may have shot himself once or twice, but he shot the other shots in the air.'
But a local bishop who has counselled McDole in the past said he had not shown any signs of being depressed or suicidal.
While McDole's uncle, Eugene Smith, said he had seen his nephew, who is black, 15 minutes before the shooting and had not noticed a gun.
'He had a book bag, but I never seen a gun,' he said. 'It was an execution. That's what it was. I don't care if he was black, white, whatever.'[/QUOTE]
Video on [url=http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c6e_1443096298]Liveleak[/url]. Obviously NSFW.
He was bleeding to death and reached for what looked like a gun. Not surprised by the cop's actions.
[QUOTE]Jessie, sydney, Australia, about 4 hours ago
The man in the wheelchair put himself in that position. How are the Police suppose to know what he was reaching for in his pocket? These police have loved one's at home, possibly children that depend on them and they have to defend themselves. They were attending the scene because the man had a gun so I think they acted correctly. The fact the man was in a wheelchair has nothing to do with this situation.[/QUOTE]
Yeah he could of evaded capture and gone round some of these cops houses and slaughtered their loved ones.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;48758433]Yeah he could of evaded capture and gone round some of these cops houses and slaughtered their loved ones.[/QUOTE]
Or you know, they wanted to survive the day to see their loved ones :rolleyes:
you know if they were able to get that close with lethal weapons and waste him, they could have gotten that close with bean bags, tasers, etc, instead of laying down 3 seconds of scunion from their firing line 20ft in front of him.
shooting a guy stuck in a wheelchair in the middle of a neighborhood is grossly negligent and unnecessary.
police shooting people in situations like this is lunacy and trying to come up with some kind of justification for it is absurd
[editline]25th September 2015[/editline]
if they thought he was armed, they had so many different ways to approach this situation than to have 4 officers walk up in a line without cover or spacing between individuals and get 20 feet in front of him
[editline]25th September 2015[/editline]
no1 needz 2 die 2 day ;(
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;48758433]Yeah he could of evaded capture and gone round some of these cops houses and slaughtered their loved ones.[/QUOTE]
Or, you know, he could've reached for the weapon and shot one of the officers.
The guy shot himself, it's reasonable to assume that the gun was still around.
Also, Dailymail.
Ah america, the only place where someone threatening to kill themselves can be beaten to the punch by those sent to help.
[QUOTE=Leon;48758472]you know if they were able to get that close with lethal weapons and waste him, they could have gotten that close with bean bags, tasers, etc, instead of laying down 3 seconds of scunion from their firing line 20ft in front of him.
shooting a guy stuck in a wheelchair in the middle of a neighborhood is grossly negligent and unnecessary.
police shooting people in situations like this is lunacy and trying to come up with some kind of justification for it is absurd
[editline]25th September 2015[/editline]
if they thought he was armed, they had so many different ways to approach this situation than to have 4 officers walk up in a line without cover or spacing between individuals and get 20 feet in front of him
[editline]25th September 2015[/editline]
no1 needz 2 die 2 day ;([/QUOTE]
he likely wouldn't have survived bean bags or tazers.
He had a 38 caliber and reached into his pockets, don't know what else a officer is suppose to do when they make a snap judgement but they followed there training.
[QUOTE=Scot;48758551]Ah america, the only place where someone threatening to kill themselves can be beaten to the punch by those sent to help.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure a suicidal man in Germany would be killed too if he tried to take out a gun.
Once the gun comes out, the gloves are off.
[QUOTE=Scot;48758551]Ah america, the only place where someone threatening to kill themselves can be beaten to the punch by those sent to help.[/QUOTE]
It's called suicide by cop, and it's a pretty serious thing.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48758578]I'm sure a suicidal man in Germany would be killed too if he tried to take out a gun.
Once the gun comes out, the gloves are off.[/QUOTE]
Only with less yelling, adrenaline and less bullets.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;48758603]Only with less yelling, adrenaline and less bullets.[/QUOTE]
I doubt that.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;48758603]Only with less yelling, adrenaline and less bullets.[/QUOTE]
not likely.
[QUOTE=butre;48758615]not likely.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=V12US;48758611]I doubt that.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1013433/GRAPHIC-CONTENT-Naked-man-shot-dead-police-Berlin.html[/url]
One shot and he's down. No unnecessary insults no yelling.
Guy was armed with a knife.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;48758628][url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1013433/GRAPHIC-CONTENT-Naked-man-shot-dead-police-Berlin.html[/url]
One shot and he's down. No unnecessary insults no yelling.
Guy was armed with a knife.[/QUOTE]
A knife not a gun there's a difference
[QUOTE=V12US;48758602]It's called suicide by cop, and it's a pretty serious thing.[/QUOTE]
America is the only place where suicide by cop is a serious thing.
[QUOTE=Jon MadN;48758669]A knife not a gun there's a difference[/QUOTE]
They don't need more bullets to take out someone with a gun than someone with a knife.
[QUOTE=Scot;48758673]America is the only place where suicide by cop is a serious thing.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much every police shooting here in Australia is suicide by cop.
[QUOTE=Saxon;48758571]He had a 38 caliber and reached into his pockets, don't know what else a officer is suppose to do when they make a snap judgement but they followed there training.[/QUOTE]
I'm convinced that an approach from behind on a wounded man in a wheelchair could of been safer for all concerned, does their training tell them to run in front of an armed man in the line of fire?
Were the amount of shots necessary in this instance? He seemed to be more of a danger to himself.
When those cops got home and thought about their days work I'm sure one or two of them must of thought we could of handled that better.
Classic FP, "If [I]I[/I] was in that situation I would have handled it better!"
Predictable lazy response:
[QUOTE]Classic FP, "If I was in that situation I would have handled it better!"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMGaina;48758628][url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1013433/GRAPHIC-CONTENT-Naked-man-shot-dead-police-Berlin.html[/url]
One shot and he's down. No unnecessary insults no yelling.
Guy was armed with a knife.[/QUOTE]
I don't see why it matters how many times he was shot.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;48758796]Predictable lazy response:[/QUOTE]
Christ, how dense can one person be. It doesn't matter if he was suicidal or crippled. As far as the officers were concerned, he was a danger to both himself and those around him. People are generally unpredictable in those situations, and so the cops had to operate under that precedent. By refusing to comply and reaching for a gun, the guy in the wheelchair was threatening lethal force. Lethal force can only be met with lethal force to reliably subdue a threat. Less-lethal options (tasers, rubber bullets, etc) are intended to deal with non-compliance in situations where there is no immediate threat to someone's life or well-being, as they cannot prevent the target from using their weapon, even when they are deployed effectively.
It's funny how you're trying to demonize the cops by making it seem like they really wanted to plug a suicidal cripple that day. Don't you think it's kinda fucked up that they were put in that situation in the first place?
[QUOTE=Leon;48758472]you know if they were able to get that close with lethal weapons and waste him, they could have gotten that close with bean bags, tasers, etc, instead of laying down 3 seconds of scunion from their firing line 20ft in front of him.
shooting a guy stuck in a wheelchair in the middle of a neighborhood is grossly negligent and unnecessary.
police shooting people in situations like this is lunacy and trying to come up with some kind of justification for it is absurd
[editline]25th September 2015[/editline]
if they thought he was armed, they had so many different ways to approach this situation than to have 4 officers walk up in a line without cover or spacing between individuals and get 20 feet in front of him
[editline]25th September 2015[/editline]
no1 needz 2 die 2 day ;([/QUOTE]
If you shoot a gun-wielding man with a taser, his muscles will tense up and you run the risk of him discharging the gun recklessly.
Was that first shot at 6 seconds from the suspect, or the cop? I'm surprised they didn't shoot him down right after the gunshot.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48758578]I'm sure a suicidal man in Germany would be killed too if he tried to take out a gun.
Once the gun comes out, the gloves are off.[/QUOTE]
Not germany but still eu:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_75uR4u5YEs[/media]
[QUOTE=gunnars1;48758691]They don't need more bullets to take out someone with a gun than someone with a knife.[/QUOTE]
People are like "wow, that's overkill" when american cops magdump into armed suspects, but as far as I'm aware that's what they're trained to do. Once the gun is out and they have to shoot, they shoot to disable- as in, until the suspect stops moving.
Not everyone is going to go down in one pretty little movie-esque shot, they account for that. A lot of people aren't even [i]aware[/i] they've been shot until a good while afterwards, that's shock.
[Quote]who is black[/quote]
Jesus pig fixing christ, they seriously had to throw that in?
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.
