First A6 benchmarks show iPhone 5 faster than any Android device and iPad 3
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[QUOTE]When it introduced the iPhone 5 last Wednesday, Apple said that the new A6 processor was twice as fast for general operations and twice as fast for graphics. Was that just bluster? Apparently, it was not.
The first iPhone 5 benchmark results have hit Primate Labs' GeekBench, as of early Sunday morning. The cross-platform benchmarks show the iPhone 5, with a device ID of iPhone5,2 (we know there are at least two hardware variants). The total Geekbench 2 score is 1601. Compare that to the average score for the iPhone 4S, at 629 and the average score for the iPad 3, at 766.
That makes the iPhone 5 not twice as fast, but 2.5 times as fast as the iPhone 4S. It makes the iPhone 5 twice as fast as the iPad 3.
A comparison to Android phones can be found here. It's obvious that the iPhone 5 beats the best Android devices, including the quad-core Samsung Galaxy S III (1560) and the Google Nexus 7 (1591).
For comparison, we took a dual-core Samsung Galaxy S III, the U.S. version, and ran it and got a total of 1396 (the quad-core GS3 is not available in the U.S due to incompatibility with LTE).
Other details were revealed by the Geekbench results. The processor has 1GB of RAM, which was previously confirmed by part number markings on the A6. It runs at 1.02GHz, faster than the iPhone 4S' A5, which ran at 800Mhz.
Other details: the processor is an ARMv7 processor, with a L1 Instruction Cache of 32KB, a L1 Data Cache of 32KB, and a L2 Cache of 1MB.
While this shows the iPhone 5 tops all current Android devices, there's that word: current. Looking at the list, the numbers also show that with a 629 rating, the iPhone 4S was behind several year-old and older devices, including the Samsung Galaxy S II and the Droid 3.
What that means is that it won't be long before an Android device comes along that surpasses the iPhone 5 - in synthetic benchmarks, at least. With the iPhone having another year before a refresh, Android devices will steamroll ahead for quite some time.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/first-a6-benchmarks-show-iphone-5-faster-than-any-android-device[/url]
A dual core outperforming a quadcore, that's good engineering and OS optimization
Neat.
I was impressed at the car game, I found it hard to believe it was console graphics with rear view mirrors on a mobile phone
that's impressive, very impressive
Nice job
Apple deserves props for this.
It's annoying to hear everyone "oh it's just a redesigned iphone buy a nexus device"
well the 1.3 ghz tegra 3 transformer prime is 10 points slower than the iphone 5
i'm pretty sure the 1.6 ghz tegra 3 transformer infinity is faster than the iphone 5
Pretty sweet that it outperforms tablets. I can't wait to see what other companies are going to come out with to counter this.
These benchmarks do not mean much in the real world. They're a measurement of the time it takes to execute a set of arbitrary tasks. A quad core processor will outperform a dual core at multitasking - and that is at the end of the day what will make the phone seem more responsive and 'fast'.
An Apple thread on FP receiving winners. I never thought I'd see the day.
At any rate, I think this is great. When my cell contract expires, I will consider buying one of these if the competitors haven't caught up yet at that time
to be honest tegra 3 wasn't that great, what's going to blow apple away from out of no where will be intel unless qualcomm has a secret weapon I don't know about.
[QUOTE=Catdaemon;37695108]These benchmarks do not mean much in the real world. They're a measurement of the time it takes to execute a set of arbitrary tasks. A quad core processor will outperform a dual core at multitasking - and that is at the end of the day what will make the phone seem more responsive and 'fast'.[/QUOTE]
you also forget optimization, iOS is custom made for certain hardware, Android is one size fits all
iOS will always be smoother and feel more responsive
[QUOTE=zzzz;37695121]An Apple thread on FP receiving winners. I never thought I'd see the day.
At any rate, I think this is great. When my cell contract expires, I will consider buying one of these if the competitors haven't caught up yet at that time[/QUOTE]
We may hate Apple's policies, but we give credit where it's due. This is impressive.
What is the benchmark testing, exactly? Because I find it hard to believe that devices with more raw power are not to par to the iPhone's hardware. Specifically versus quad core versus dual core machines, because parallelism is just going to give an exponential increase in performance on anything that uses it.
I'm not bandwagoning, just skeptical.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;37695386]What is the benchmark testing, exactly? Because I find it hard to believe that devices with more raw power are not to par to the iPhone's hardware. Specifically versus quad core versus dual core machines, because parallelism is just going to give an exponential increase in performance on anything that uses it.
I'm not bandwagoning, just skeptical.[/QUOTE]
[URL=http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1030202]You can see what they tested for yourself here.[/URL]
EDIT: And if you search there, slightly overclocked Nexus 7's do way better than the iPhone does.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;37695386]What is the benchmark testing, exactly? Because I find it hard to believe that devices with more raw power are not to par to the iPhone's hardware. Specifically versus quad core versus dual core machines, because parallelism is just going to give an exponential increase in performance on anything that uses it.
I'm not bandwagoning, just skeptical.[/QUOTE]
well they are different cpu makers, different architectures, apples to oranges
it's that old circa-2006 argument "a dual core CPU with powerful architecture outperforms a quad core with less powerful architecture"
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also the optimization thing
[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;37695395][URL=http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1030202]You can see what they tested for yourself here.[/URL]
EDIT: And if you search there, slightly overclocked Nexus 7's do way better than the iPhone does.[/QUOTE]
...what about a slightly overclocked iPhone :v:
cool i've already preordered it nice to see my money is worth it
[QUOTE=zzzz;37695121]An Apple thread on FP receiving winners. I never thought I'd see the day.
At any rate, I think this is great. When my cell contract expires, I will consider buying one of these if the competitors haven't caught up yet at that time[/QUOTE]
To be fair, this isn't a thread about Apple suing x company about the bounce back feature.
I as well find myself in a pickle, choosing between the iPhone 5 and something else when my contract ends in a few months.
Let's just notice that all the latest Android devices are around as fast as the new iPhone and the new Windows Phone 8 devices.
Speed is no longer that big a deal. Even battery life is excellent on most recent phones.
[QUOTE=Gammashack;37695598]...what about a slightly overclocked iPhone :v:[/QUOTE]
There's no data for the 5 yet, but the 4S is still unimpressive compared to the new one even overclocked fully.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37694958]A dual core outperforming a quadcore, that's good engineering and OS optimization[/QUOTE]
That's not really the surprising part; more cores doesn't necessarily mean faster at all. The surprising part is how well it does compared to [i]similar dual cores at the same clock speed[/i], like the Atrix 4G and Asus TF101, and even dual-cores clocked much faster, like the S II, Note, and One S.
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[QUOTE=person11;37695738]Let's just notice that all the latest Android devices are around as fast as the new iPhone and the new Windows Phone 8 devices.
Speed is no longer that big a deal. Even battery life is excellent on most recent phones.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but you have to admit that the [i]efficiency[/i] is impressive. Androids are obviously wasting clock cycles.
Good on them. I'm more proud that my Nexus 7 is only 10 points behind, however.
The real competition is software.
iOS has an excellent App Store, and good support for Tablet Apps, as well as a ton of dedicated developers. iOS is also extremely efficient with power usage and heat.
Google has less restrictions on Apps, leading to easy installing of emulators and other apps that would never be approved by Apple. Jelly Bean is pretty and also a lot more capable than iOS 6 in terms of just doing whatever you want.
Windows Phone 8... well we will see when it is out.
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;37695893]Good on them. I'm more proud that my Nexus 7 is only 10 points behind, however.[/QUOTE]
But it's not a [i]phone[/i]. So that's a bad comparison. Tablets should be faster, since they can have bigger batteries and more surface area to expel heat.
[editline]17th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=person11;37695929]The real competition is software.
iOS has an excellent App Store, and good support for Tablet Apps, as well as a ton of dedicated developers. iOS is also extremely efficient with power usage and heat.
Google has less restrictions on Apps, leading to easy installing of emulators and other apps that would never be approved by Apple. Jelly Bean is pretty and also a lot more capable than iOS 6 in terms of just doing whatever you want.
Windows Phone 8... well we will see when it is out.[/QUOTE]
I'm just waiting for the phone equivalent of Bootcamp. I would pay all the money in the world to have Android on an iPhone 5.
Which phone?
Generally, the phones that came with ICS have had great battery life and temperature. I know that the One X and the Galaxy S 3 are both good in these areas.
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[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;37695939]But it's not a [i]phone[/i]. So that's a bad comparison. Tablets should be faster, since they can have bigger batteries and more surface area to expel heat.
[editline]17th September 2012[/editline]
I'm just waiting for the phone equivalent of Bootcamp. I would pay all the money in the world to have Android on an iPhone 5.[/QUOTE]
Android on a Lumia 920 would be insanely amazing.
And I'm sure the Galaxy S IV will outperform the iPhone 5, then Apple will release the 5s which will be even faster and the cycle will continue.
But the fact the Apple's dual core phone beats the 1.4 GHz quad-core Galaxy S III shows that having control over both the software and hardware has its advantages.
Shit that is pretty damn nice, gotta give credit to the engineers at Apple.
I'd consider this but right now I don't have enough much money to throw around :(
[editline]17 September 2012[/editline]
Although people talk of their iDevices often becoming shit after only a few years of use, I'm still amazed at what my 2G Touch can do. Have had it for nearly 4 years and the battery life is still perfect, lasting a whole week without charging any only listening to music (although quite a few menu options are disabled), still runs apps incredibly smooth and iOS (only version 4) is as smooth as the version of iOS that came with it. Amazing how well it's aged, except for I suppose the now-broken volume and power buttons.
Still, the 1400mAh battery is pretty bad.
[QUOTE=person11;37695929]The real competition is software.
iOS has an excellent App Store, and good support for Tablet Apps, as well as a ton of dedicated developers. iOS is also extremely efficient with power usage and heat.
Google has less restrictions on Apps, leading to easy installing of emulators and other apps that would never be approved by Apple. Jelly Bean is pretty and also a lot more capable than iOS 6 in terms of just doing whatever you want.
Windows Phone 8... well we will see when it is out.[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to find that gradually iOS is becoming a little bit more open now that iOS 6 will allow people to upload images or video into Safari which is brilliant.
Android's open to the max, you can just do whatever you want but with that your battery life plummits and well it is slow and just about unbearable to deal with.
Windows Phone is locked down to the barebone and honestly I don't think there's any reason to complain, the UI is just beautiful from the start and changing it looks like a pile of shit, so nobody really tries to make it more customizable because it's perfect the way it is.
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