• Rising Tory MP set up church to "cure" LGBT people.
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[quote]A high-flying prospective Conservative MP, credited with shaping many of the party's social policies, founded a church that tried to "cure" homosexuals by driving out their "demons" through prayer. Philippa Stroud, who is likely to win the Sutton and Cheam seat on Thursday and is head of the Centre for Social Justice, the thinktank set up by the former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith, has heavily influenced David Cameron's beliefs on subjects such as the family. A popular and energetic Tory, she is seen as one of the party's rising stars. The CSJ reportedly claims to have formulated as many as 70 of the party's policies. Stroud has spoken of how her Christian faith has motivated her to help the poor and of her time spent working with the destitute in Hong Kong. On her return to Britain, in 1989, she founded a church and night shelter in Bedford, the King's Arms Project, that helped drug addicts and alcoholics. It also counselled gay, lesbian and transsexual people. Abi, a teenage girl with transsexual issues, was sent to the church by her parents, who were evangelical Christians. "Convinced I was demonically possessed, my parents made the decision to move to Bedford, because of this woman [Stroud] who had come back from Hong Kong and had the power to set me free," Abi told the Observer. "She wanted me to know all my thinking was wrong, I was wrong and the so-called demons inside me were wrong. The session ended with her and others praying over me, calling out the demons. She really believed things like homosexuality, transsexualism and addiction could be fixed just by prayer, all in the name of Jesus." "T" said he moved to Bedford because he believed the church could help him stop having homosexual thoughts. "I was trying to convince myself that a change was possible but, at the same time, a part of me didn't believe it was possible," he said. "The church's approach was not that it was sinful to be homosexual but that it was sinful to act on it. The aim is to get a person to a position where they don't have these sinful emotions and thoughts." "T" said it was only after he "took a break" from the church that his depression lifted. "It was the church's attitude towards my sexuality that was the issue," he recalled. "My impression is that she genuinely cares about people," he said of Stroud. "Her personal beliefs may get in the way sometimes, but she is a positive person." Stroud and her husband, David, a minister in the New Frontiers church, allied to the US evangelical movement, left the project in the late 1990s to establish another church in Birmingham. Angela Paterson, who was an administrator at the Bedford church, said: "With hindsight, the thing that freaks me out was everybody praying that a demon would be cast out of me because I was gay. Anything – drugs, alcohol or homosexuality, they thought you had a demon in you." Kacey Jones, a hostel resident, said she was told to end her lesbian relationship or leave the church. "Philippa was still around when I first moved in," Jones said. "There was a 'discipleship house' for Christians struggling with issues, including their sexuality. They told me my feelings weren't normal. I didn't want to be gay, I wanted to be like everybody else, get married, have kids and please my parents." Stroud wrote a book, God's Heart for the Poor, in which she explains how to deal with people showing signs of "demonic activity". Stroud, who declined to talk to the Observer, writes: "I'd say the bottom line is to remember your spiritual authority as a child of God. He is so much more powerful than anything else!" In the book she discusses the daily struggle of running the hostel. "One girl lived in the hostel for some time, became a Christian, then choked to death on her own vomit after a drinking bout. Her life had changed to some extent, but we wondered whether God knew that she hadn't the will to stick with it and was calling her home." One resident featured in the book, Mary, was in an abusive relationship. "We discovered further layers of the tangle when she admitted to previous lesbian relationships and to being on the receiving end of abuse from her family," Stroud writes, adding: "No wonder she was in such a mess!" The Conservatives have tried to win over gay voters after a string of controversial comments by party members. The shadow home secretary, Chris Grayling, said owners of B&B accommodation should have the right to turn away gay couples. Julian Lewis, the shadow defence minister, said he was against lowering the age of consent from 18 to 16 for homosexuals. Revelations about Stroud's past are likely to make the party's task even more difficult. "This reinforces our long-held suspicions that those out of sight, but with their hands on the levers of power, have deeply reactionary ambitions," said Keith Porteous Wood, executive director of the National Secular Society. Ben Summerskill, chief executive of the Stonewall group, said: "If Mrs Stroud has been praying to rid Britain of its homosexuality, she clearly hasn't been praying hard enough. It would be highly regrettable if someone who continued to hold these views held any significant office in government."[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/02/conservatives-philippa-stroud-gay-cure?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url] I know this is pretty normal for evangelical nutjobs in America, but for an English MP, this is pretty big stuff, especially in a more secular society.
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What a fucking moron. Homosexuality's not an infection that can or should be "cured".
Can this [B]WO[/B]mans motives be anymore transparent? [B]S[/B]He might as well be saying: "Hey guys, I'm trying to get the Religious vote!" DURHURHUR :downs:.
[quote]a church that tried to "cure" homosexuals by driving out their "demons" through prayer.[/quote] Wait, so they just drive out the gay demons with no attempt to contain them? Fucking shit, this is something you tell the public!
I thought homosexuality was a genetic disorder. I mean some animals are gay.
They don't consider it to be a disorder anymore unless you're uncomfortable with it.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21703395]Wait, so they just drive out the gay demons with no attempt to contain them? Fucking shit, this is something you tell the public![/QUOTE] I'm immune because I'm already gay. Bwahahaha! THE DEMONS WILL FOREVER POSSESS ME!
[QUOTE=goon165;21703351]Can this mans motives be anymore transparent? He might as well be saying: "Hey guys, I'm trying to get the Religious vote!" DURHURHUR :downs:.[/QUOTE] It's a woman
Fixed' Tehehehe
[QUOTE=Goose;21703649]I'm immune because I'm already gay. Bwahahaha! THE DEMONS WILL FOREVER POSSESS ME![/QUOTE] I think the gay demons found the French Maid thread in GD
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21703395]Wait, so they just drive out the gay demons with no attempt to contain them? Fucking shit, this is something you tell the public![/QUOTE] Shit's dangerous, man. Are these the type of people you want in power? Just setting gay demons loose like there's no tomorrow?
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;21703945]Shit's dangerous, man. Are these the type of people you want in power? Just setting gay demons loose like there's no tomorrow?[/QUOTE] If I was running against him I'd definitely parody this in my ads. Maybe not full-blown TV ads that could offend people, but on my website or youtube or something.
Vote Labour for a demon-free Britain
What the fuck? We're not in America!
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;21704093]Vote Labour for a demon-free Britain[/QUOTE] Vote Labour for bigoted women.
bigoted against gay demons :smug:
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;21704405]bigoted against gay demons :smug:[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/08ES4brown_415x454.jpg[/img] You rang?
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;21704093]Vote Labour for a demon-free Britain[/QUOTE] Vote Lib Dem for Demons for all Britons.
Anyway, you can't cure Homosexuality. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PooEhBxh0NY[/media]
[QUOTE=radioactive;21706145]Anyway, you can't cure Homosexuality. [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL] [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=PooEhBxh0NY[/URL] [/QUOTE] but how can we cure you !?
burn it to the ground.
How exactly do they expect to cure the T in LGBT? That's just gonna be a mess.
[QUOTE=lemongrapes;21702588]especially in a more secular society.[/QUOTE] excuse me, in the UK our taxes go directly to the head of a state-sponsored religion called The Anglican Church.
Please tell me that the Tories are losing...
[QUOTE=thisispain;21708112]excuse me, in the UK our taxes go directly to the head of a state-sponsored religion called The Anglican Church.[/QUOTE] It's not secular, but it's less religious.
[QUOTE=thisispain;21708112]excuse me, in the UK our taxes go directly to the head of a state-sponsored religion called The Anglican Church.[/QUOTE] Politics isn't. Apart from the retarded "faith schools" and the connections between the monarchy and the church, which go back to times when religion was a big deal. Now the only real purpose of the monarchy is a tourist attraction, opening stuff and having something to take the piss out off (see prince Phillip).
Good grief. Looks like Lib Dem are getting in this year then. What a nutcase. EDIT: I'm a Christian and even I think this is fucking bizarre. Gays should just be treated like everyone else, not told they have demons. Seriously. And I don't believe that there would be anything as stupid as fagdemons anyway, I mean what, are they pink and camp? This is fucking nuts right here.
This is disgusting. The fact that someone so high up in one of the leading parties can remain in this position with such skewed and backwards views can remain in this position and influence party policy, especially social policy, is terrifying.
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