2015 Pakistani heat wave 1,200+ Deaths - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Local media say that at least 950 people have died in Karachi, with tens of thousands being treated for heatstroke and dehydration. Temperatures dipped to 38C (100F) on Thursday but the spokesman for a leading charity told AFP that the death toll could reach as high as 1,500. Officials have been criticised for not doing enough to tackle the crisis.[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Pakistani_heat_wave[/url] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33274171[/url]

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48060886]That's hotter then the human body temperature (37C or 98.6F). Fucking christ that's hot.[/QUOTE] "39-40C Brain tells muscles to slow down 40-41C Heat exhaustion/heat stroke 42C Body shuts down" According the BBC article. I find 20c fairly hot if the sun is out, let alone double that.

110F/43C outside right now in Las Vegas. Feels like you're in a toaster when you walk outside. Never been so thankful to have proper air conditioning and hydration.

[QUOTE=Kirbyguy22;48060916]110F/43C outside right now in Las Vegas. Feels like you're in a toaster when you walk outside. Never been so thankful to have proper air conditioning and hydration.[/QUOTE] Air conditioning is the only reason anyone in America lives in the desert.

Temperatures recorded hitting almost 50C Holy moly

Air conditioning is the only reason why half of the United States is habitable.

Its been 105f here all week, with 50-75% humidy all week here in my spot in NC. Its pretty fucking hot. [editline]26th June 2015[/editline] Like, idk how people do it. I was outside for an hour changing the oil in my lawnmower and I was sweating my fucking ass off. I feel bad for construction guys. Anyone in the heat, really.

[QUOTE=Arrows;48060905]"39-40C Brain tells muscles to slow down 40-41C Heat exhaustion/heat stroke 42C Body shuts down" According the BBC article. I find 20c fairly hot if the sun is out, let alone double that.[/QUOTE] Last time I was in Ukraine (5 years ago, it was 45 degrees C there), I didn't die, how come?

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48060954]The highest it's ever been in NZ is 29C~ in my town iirc. Also in my first post I should of made a post about the average temperates [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Karachi[/URL] [IMG]http://kiwime.me/files/Selection_001.png[/IMG] Whilst 38C is no where near some of the record highs that's still fucking hot.[/QUOTE] A couple summers ago it got to 40C here and holy shit, it's just so hot you stop doing anything. I really need to invest in some A/C, and I hope everyone over there makes it through the heat. Shit sucks.

That's really hot for that area. Around here we're used to it being that hot but not there in Pakistan. Man, that's so rough. :c

[QUOTE=KnightVista;48060995]Air conditioning is the only reason why half of the United States is habitable.[/QUOTE] It's not like people in the south (and other hot regions) didn't live there until AC was invented.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;48061275]It's not like people in the south (and other hot regions) didn't live there until AC was invented.[/QUOTE] It certainly made them more attractive places though.

[QUOTE=arleitiss;48061026]Last time I was in Ukraine (5 years ago, it was 45 degrees C there), I didn't die, how come?[/QUOTE] Those describe what happens when your internal body temperature reaches that number, you would have to be in the heat for a long time without proper hydration for your body to heat up that much internally.

[QUOTE=Oberleutnant;48061347]Those describe what happens when your internal body temperature reaches that number, you would have to be in the heat for a long time without proper hydration for your body to heat up that much internally.[/QUOTE] Oh, that clears up things. I remember I was very sick once and had like 40.5 degrees temperature, it was most horrible experience I had.

[QUOTE=elevate;48060932]Air conditioning is the only reason anyone in America lives in the desert.[/QUOTE] I gotta say it must feel pretty fucking nice coming from the outside where it's hot, into your home/wherever where the temperature is set just right.

[QUOTE=Arrows;48060905]"39-40C Brain tells muscles to slow down 40-41C Heat exhaustion/heat stroke 42C Body shuts down" According the BBC article. I find 20c fairly hot if the sun is out, let alone double that.[/QUOTE] I've been to Thailand in summer when its been 45c and like 100% humidity so what's happening here [editline]27th June 2015[/editline] Oh sorry someone beat me to it

[QUOTE=KnightVista;48060995]Air conditioning is the only reason why half of the United States is habitable.[/QUOTE] Deserts dont take up that much land in the us.

[quote]The heat wave coincided with the month of Ramadan, in which Muslims observe fasting and no drinking from dawn till dark. As a result, many people are not using food and water, despite soaring temperature. [/quote] This is one of the biggest problems regarding the cause of deaths during the heatwave, without a doubt [editline]27th June 2015[/editline] But god fucking damn, [b]49 degrees celcius[/b] That shits fucked

[QUOTE=Araknid;48061541]This is one of the biggest problems regarding the cause of deaths during the heatwave, without a doubt[/QUOTE] Then explain how the 2003 heat wave killed 70000 people, many of whom did not celebrate Ramadan, when Ramadan was not happening. It's a contributing factor, sure, but not one of the biggest problems.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;48061435]I gotta say it must feel pretty fucking nice coming from the outside where it's hot, into your home/wherever where the temperature is set just right.[/QUOTE] I'm gonna be honest, the sudden humidity and temperature change is actually sort of uncomfortable. Its even worse when you go from indoors to outdoors and your glasses fog up immediately and you just feel damp.

How do people thermoregulate when the temperature [I]outside[/I] the body is hotter than the temperature inside? Doesn't the temperature flow reverse? Or does sweat do more than just coat the body in water? In my mind I know places get hotter than 98F but my limited understanding of physics can't explain how everyone doesn't die after mere minutes at 110F.

[QUOTE=Mbbird;48061967]How do people thermoregulate when the temperature [I]outside[/I] the body is hotter than the temperature inside? Doesn't the temperature flow reverse? Or does sweat do more than just coat the body in water? In my mind I know places get hotter than 98F but my limited understanding of physics can't explain how everyone doesn't die after mere minutes at 110F.[/QUOTE] Humans have differing means to regulate themselves in hot and humid conditions and just plain hot ones. In hot conditions sweating leads to evaporative cooling, at the expense of water loss; when external temp exceeds core temp this is the only way humans can lose heat. Effective thermoregulation in humid conditions can fail often because of slow evaporation of sweat since the air's already saturated with water vapor; and not wearing the proper clothing (light, loose materials such as cotton) will only make things worse by reducing the efficacy of evaporative cooling. As a result this directly contributes to heat stress, making it that much more likely for the natural temperature regulation in the body to be overwhelmed by the demands placed on it. It's easier in general to adapt to conditions where temperature increases gradually and not all at once, but different people have different levels of heat tolerance. Also the elderly, young children, and the sick are more vulnerable to start with. The most severe forms of heat stroke can even lead to a bleed in the brain, often in the region of the brain stem, which is usually immediately fatal or at least swift enough that it may be similar.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;48061275]It's not like people in the south (and other hot regions) didn't live there until AC was invented.[/QUOTE] It was a big deal. [url]http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/air-conditioning-and-the-rise-of-the-south/?_r=0[/url] It didn't make the south habitable, it made it tolerable.

throw on a flak and kevlar plus 25-35 lbs of gear and train in these kinds of environments for hours my life

I'm glad that I have an air conditioner, every season except winter it's hot as fuck in my country

[QUOTE=arleitiss;48061026]Last time I was in Ukraine (5 years ago, it was 45 degrees C there), I didn't die, how come?[/QUOTE] get hot body sweats body evaporates sweat: body heat moves to the sweat to get rid of it less body heat

The problem in Pakistan is that people would rather die from having no water left to sweat than break their fast. So I'd imagine general lack of sense and lack of understanding of their scriptures contributes.

[QUOTE=Kirbyguy22;48060916]110F/43C outside right now in Las Vegas. Feels like you're in a toaster when you walk outside. Never been so thankful to have proper air conditioning and hydration.[/QUOTE] Vegas's dry heat feels awful against the eyes. Last time I went to DEFCON a bunch of people were sitting outside anyways, but I imagine they were too drunk to care. By the way, Muslims are allowed to break their fast for health reasons: [quote=Quran 2:184][Fasting for] a limited number of days. So whoever among you is ill or on a journey [during them] - then an equal number of days [are to be made up]. And upon those who are able [to fast, but with hardship] - a ransom [as substitute] of feeding a poor person [each day]. And whoever volunteers excess - it is better for him. But to fast is best for you, if you only knew.[/quote]

Rarely here in NJ in the summer we'll get 100F heat waves and goddamn it's ridiculous. Being anywhere near pavement is awful, it radiates heat like you're over a hot stove. The scary thing about heat stroke is that you become disoriented so you might not even fully realize what's happening

Is there any place on earth with 20-30celsius all year round, and no excessive humidity? I suppose it might be just south of South America and Africa's rainforests, perhaps around the mediteranean basin aswell(South Turkey, S. Italy, S Greece, S. Spain, Israel, Morocco, N. Algeria?), could be parts of Mexico aswell, how about Texas, Florida or South California? And how's the weather in SE-Asia?