Super-High Pressures Used to Create Super Battery: 'Most Condensed Form of Energy Storage' - Polidicks

[QUOTE][IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/100704162218-large.jpg[/IMG][tab]Washington State University chemist Choong-Shik Yoo, seen here with students, has used super-high pressures to create a compact, never-before-seen material capable of storing vast amounts of energy. (Credit: Washington State University)[/tab][/QUOTE] [QUOTE][B]Using super-high pressures similar to those found deep in the Earth or on a giant planet, Washington State University researchers have created a compact, never-before-seen material capable of storing vast amounts of energy.[/B] "If you think about it, it is the most condensed form of energy storage outside of nuclear energy," says Choong-Shik Yoo, a WSU chemistry professor and lead author of results published in the journal Nature Chemistry. The research is basic science, but Yoo says it shows it is possible to store mechanical energy into the chemical energy of a material with such strong chemical bonds. Possible future applications include creating a new class of energetic materials or fuels, an energy storage device, super-oxidizing materials for destroying chemical and biological agents, and high- temperature superconductors. The researchers created the material on the Pullman campus in a diamond anvil cell, a small, two-inch by three-inch-diameter device capable of producing extremely high pressures in a small space. The cell contained xenon difluoride (XeF2), a white crystal used to etch silicon conductors, squeezed between two small diamond anvils. At normal atmospheric pressure, the material's molecules stay relatively far apart from each other. But as researchers increased the pressure inside the chamber, the material became a two-dimensional graphite-like semiconductor. The researchers eventually increased the pressure to more than a million atmospheres, comparable to what would be found halfway to the center of the earth. All this "squeezing," as Yoo calls it, forced the molecules to make tightly bound three-dimensional metallic "network structures." In the process, the huge amount of mechanical energy of compression was stored as chemical energy in the molecules' bonds. Financial support for the research came from the U.S. Department of Defense's Defense Threat Reduction Agency and the National Science Foundation. [QUOTE][tab]Source: [/tab] [B][URL="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100704162218.htm"]Science Daily[/URL][/B][/QUOTE][/QUOTE] :science:

Isn't this a kind of room-temp superconductor? (Kinda)

Finally a development in an area that was so far left behind others! Battlesuits, here we come!

Longer lasting batteries for the win.

Interesting. And is there any way to rapidly release all that charged-up energy?

We have nitroglycerine here to do that for us.

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;23184051]Isn't this a kind of room-temp superconductor? (Kinda)[/QUOTE] It seems to be like a molecular Marx Generator.

Does this mean that electric cars could actually have proper range?

This sounds like an explosive more than a viable "battery".

Is not a battery any more than TNT is

Really? They effectively squashed a battery and called it the most condensed form of energy storage on the planet. Well it fucking would be after you put under a 1 million atmospheres :colbert:

I'm not chemistry major or anything but wouldn't having high energy bonds in a small space basically make a bomb? This just sounds dangerous.

please tell me this will someday find its way into my phone/laptop.

ITT people who have no idea what they are talking about.

[QUOTE=Ryenoru;23186466]I'm not chemistry major or anything but wouldn't having high energy bonds in a small space basically make a bomb? This just sounds dangerous.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah this thing is a bomb if not correctly used, but I suppose they know what they're doing and know how to make it controllable otherwise they wouldn't call it a battery.

[QUOTE=bravehat;23186639]Oh yeah this thing is a bomb if not correctly used, but I suppose they know what they're doing and know how to make it controllable otherwise they wouldn't call it a battery.[/QUOTE] They're calling it a battery because they want to play it off as a breakthrough. It's simply a lot of explosive energy in a small space.

See this is why Uranium is in general a better idea, it's a massive amount of energy but at least it's controllable.

Nevermind, my brain is working in 5:30 AM mode. Where the fuck did I get the superconductor thing. Jesus Christ... Anyways, did they remove the diamond anvil thingee? Or is it attached to the compound? Would releasing it cause it to release the energy or what.

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;23186803]Nevermind, my brain is working in 5:30 AM mode. Where the fuck did I get the superconductor thing. Jesus Christ... Anyways, did they remove the diamond anvil thingee? Or is it attached to the compound? Would releasing it cause it to release the energy or what.[/QUOTE] Hey, you're on the other side of the world from me. But anyway, you probably got the superconductor thing from this: At normal atmospheric pressure, the material's molecules stay relatively far apart from each other. But as researchers increased the pressure inside the chamber, the material became a two-dimensional graphite-like semiconductor.

[QUOTE=SamPerson123;23186945]Hey, you're on the other side of the world from me. But anyway, you probably got the superconductor thing from this: At normal atmospheric pressure, the material's molecules stay relatively far apart from each other. But as researchers increased the pressure inside the chamber, the material became a two-dimensional graphite-like semiconductor.[/QUOTE] Probably. Also because some think room-temperature supercondcutor will only be achieved at high pressure, so my brain associated it.

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;23186141]Is not a battery any more than TNT is[/QUOTE] TNT stores only potential energy, it cant release it without blowing up. This battery can

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;23187021]TNT stores only potential energy, it cant release it without blowing up. This battery can[/QUOTE] Hah, no it can't

Just trying to think ahead of time... Isn't it possible that the highly pressurized packs could create a mini nuke if overloaded? I mean the same theory works on generators... Double the voltage it needs, and kaboom... You got yourself a building on fire.

Eh no it can't. It would release a metric fuck ton of power if it was efficiently combusted, but unlike a nuke there would be no radiation. So imagine a hippies version of a nuclear warhead.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;23187843]Just trying to think ahead of time... Isn't it possible that the highly pressurized packs could create a mini nuke if overloaded? I mean the same theory works on generators... Double the voltage it needs, and kaboom... You got yourself a building on fire.[/QUOTE] no

[QUOTE=Quo Vadi;23188052]no[/QUOTE] No offense... I didn't sit on my ass for ten years listening to my farther bable about generators to not understand this. Unless the system has a drop dead system (basically if it goes over voltage it kills itself automatically) in the wrong hands(idiots) this could be potentially dangerous. Also... I didn't mean, "IT WILL BE A HUGE NUCLEAR EXPLOSION" I was emphasizing it could do harm in either... Explosion, EMP, or Vaporizing at high temperatures.

Uhh great? VOLUME wasn't the problem with batteries. WEIGHT is. By squeezing a battery down to half its original size, you still have the same amount of weight.

Well, they better release it soon, 'cause I'm tired of switching the batteries on the remote

[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;23189285]Well, they better release it soon, 'cause I'm tired of switching the batteries on the remote[/QUOTE] They're probably expensive as fuck. And GunFox is right, 2 such batteries probably weight 20 kilograms