Director of anti-Islam film requests police protection - Polidicks

[url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gsmmg8EKrXMH8eMChiCBSOdUA-zw?docId=CNG.ede8b68f8ead1787242696cf2c220fed.171[/url] [quote=AFP]LOS ANGELES — The man suspected of producing a crude film lampooning the Prophet Mohammed has been placed under police protection after protests erupted around the world, a force spokesman said Thursday. Journalists gathered outside the home of a 55-year-old Coptic Christian, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, in the city's southern suburbs, after reports he had directed the movie that triggered protests in the Muslim world. There was no sign at the house of Nakoula, who is thought to have uploaded a trailer for the movie to the YouTube video-sharing site under the pseudonym "Sam Bacile," but police said he had asked for protections. "We did receive the call and we did respond. We're providing public safety and we will continue to do so," said Steve Whitman, a spokesman for the county sheriff in Cerritos, 24 miles (40 kilometers) south of Los Angeles. Little is known about Nakoula, who was sentenced to 21 months in prison in 2010 for bank fraud. His family refused to speak to reporters at his home. If he is the figure who has been posing as Sam Bacile, then he told two US media outlets that he was Israeli-American and Jewish, but an associate has now confirmed to AFP that he is a Christian American and not Israeli. A 14-minute package of excerpts from the movie he is thought to have produced -- "Innocence of the Muslims" -- was uploaded onto the Internet in July. In it, an actor playing Mohammed is portrayed as a drunken and predatory bisexual. The film is marked by amateur acting, laughable fake beards and shoddy production values was apparently shot in English, but a version of the trailer was dubbed into Egyptian Arabic and caused great offense in the Arab world. Egyptian Islamist television networks broadcast the clip, triggering a riot in which a mob stormed the grounds of the American embassy and tore down the US flag. Similar unrest erupted in Yemen on Thursday. An attack on the US consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi on Tuesday, the 11th anniversary of the September 11 attacks, was at first thought to be linked to the protests, but investigators now suspect an extremist plot. Actors who appeared in the film have come forward to denounce "Bacile", alleging they were misled about the content and that references to Islam and the Prophet Mohammed were dubbed over their voices in post production.[/quote]

They gathered outside the man's home, wow. Though this is America I doubt he will be killed or kidnapped.

And he should receive protection.

[QUOTE=sonerin;37661019]And he should receive protection.[/QUOTE] And legal prosecution.

[QUOTE=Aide;37661007]They gathered outside the man's home, wow. Though this is America I doubt he will be killed or kidnapped.[/QUOTE] Uh, you underestimate a bunch of religious fanatics with guns. His movie was retarded and even if he should have guessed it would have stired shit I doubt he could have known it would turn that ugly. Also free speech, gotta protect every aspect of it, his life is threatened because he voiced his [stupid] ideas, he deserves protection.

I find it hard to have any sympathy for the director since I learned he said "Islam is a cancer" I'd like to see him protected, but only so they can find some way to charge him.

[QUOTE=Van-man;37661030]And legal prosecution.[/QUOTE] Why?

Because he's a racist scumbag. The people trying to kill him aren't any better... but not all muslims are extremist ass holes.

[QUOTE=sonerin;37661109]Why?[/QUOTE] Well he did deliberately mislead the actors into thinking the film was unrelated to anything Biblical or Quranic. Not sure if that's any ground for prosecution, though.

[QUOTE=sonerin;37661109]Why?[/QUOTE] Hate speech is kind of a crime. It's one thing to say "I don't agree with Islam" it's another to call it a cancer.

[QUOTE=Scotchair;37661075]I find it hard to have any sympathy for the director since I learned he said "Islam is a cancer" I'd like to see him protected, but only so they can find some way to charge him.[/QUOTE] Muslims, Christians, Atheists always say the same about eachother. You can see Muslim Sheikhs/Imams/Shahs calling Christianity, Atheism, Buddhism cancer. You can see Rabbis, Popes calling Islam, Atheism and Buddhism cancer. This is how it is. Religions always insult eachother. I don't see Sheikhs/Imams/Rabbis/Popes getting arrested for calling Christianity/Islam/Atheism/Buddhism cancer. Why all the outrage out of a sudden just now?

[QUOTE=erazor;37661130]Well he did deliberately mislead the actors into thinking the film was unrelated to anything biblical.[/QUOTE] This too.

[QUOTE=Scotchair;37661126]Because he's a racist scumbag. The people trying to kill him aren't any better... but not all muslims are extremist ass holes.[/QUOTE] This isn't about race, though. He is not racist.

[QUOTE=sonerin;37661140]This isn't about race, though. He is not racist.[/QUOTE] Islam may not be a race, but neither is Judaism. If it was, then all Jewish people would be brown. Many European people converted, hence why most of them are actually quite fair skinned (Ashkenazi). So why is Anti-Semitism wrong? Because it's taking someone who holds a belief central to their identity and life and calling them a 'cancer' because of it. That's wrong, I don't care what religion you are or aren't. It would be wrong to call Atheism a cancer, too.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;37661161]Islam may not be a race, but neither is Judaism. If it was, then all Jewish people would be brown. Many European people converted, hence why most of them are actually quite fair skinned (Ashkenazi). So why is Anti-Semitism wrong? Because it's taking someone who holds a belief central to their identity and life and calling them a 'cancer' because of it. That's wrong, I don't care what religion you are or aren't. It would be wrong to call Atheism a cancer, too.[/QUOTE] Yeah. Religion has nothing to do with someone's race. [editline]14th September 2012[/editline] Therefore Sam is not racist for bashing Islam or Muslims.

[QUOTE=sonerin;37661109]Why?[/QUOTE] There's using free speech, and then there's abusing. He did the latter with filming and spreading a extremely islmaophobic film. Not to mention the while misleading and manipulating deal with amateur actors. And now he's afraid to stand up to the shitstorm he started.

[QUOTE=sonerin;37661169]Yeah. Religion has nothing to do with someone's race.[/QUOTE] That doesn't make it okay to hate a person because of the God they believe in. Racism is obviously now used as an umbrella term for prejudice/intolerance towards people who belong to a certain group. It may not literally be racism, but it's honestly just as bad.

more than anything he's a dumbass. the "film" was laughably bad, even compared to shit school kids do. if people hadn't been tipped off that it exists then he'd just be another nutjob. really though, take any threats into consideration and offer him the same protection any citizen deserves. he obviously loves the attention because publicity but hes no worse than someone on stormfront or sonerin here in terms of hate speech. prosecution would be stupid.

[QUOTE=Scotchair;37661075]I find it hard to have any sympathy for the director since I learned he said "Islam is a cancer" I'd like to see him protected, but only so they can find some way to charge him.[/QUOTE] Don't alot of people here say the same thing, I swear I've heard it before.

[QUOTE=Van-man;37661173]There's using free speech, and then there's abusing. He did the latter with filming and spreading a extremely islmaophobic film. Not to mention the while misleading and manipulating deal with amateur actors. And now he's afraid to stand up to the shitstorm he started.[/QUOTE] What I don't understand is people always create anti-Christian and anti-Atheist movies, but the outrage happened now because someone made an anti-Islamic movie. [editline]14th September 2012[/editline] And everyone including non-Muslims want him punished.

[QUOTE=sonerin;37661206]What I don't understand is people always create anti-Christian and anti-Atheist movies [/QUOTE] they do?

[QUOTE=sonerin;37661206]What I don't understand is people always create anti-Christian and anti-Atheist movies, but the outrage happened now because someone made an anti-Islamic movie. [editline]14th September 2012[/editline] And everyone including non-Muslims want him punished.[/QUOTE] Because people can't stand whilst somebody else believes something that in their minds is wrong.

[QUOTE=sonerin;37661206]What I don't understand is people always create anti-Christian and anti-Atheist movies, but the outrage happened now because someone made an anti-Islamic movie. [editline]14th September 2012[/editline] And everyone including non-Muslims want him punished.[/QUOTE] to be fair, "root of all evil" and "islam: what the west needs to know about" don't start off by saying that muslims themselves are pedophiles and go around killing christians simply because they're religious fanatics. i'm sure that's probably how egypt is in your worldview but its really not.

What a piece of shit. Insults and mocks a whole religion and then runs to the authorities to get his ass saved.

[QUOTE=BloodYScar;37661232]What a piece of shit. Insults and mocks a whole religion and then runs to the authorities to get his ass saved.[/QUOTE] Wait whys he a piece of shit just for expressing his views?

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37661216]Because people can't stand whilst somebody else believes something that in their minds is wrong.[/QUOTE] Well no, not really. The main idea is that a physical depiction of the prophet is expressly forbidden, it's a measure taken so that future generations of Islam don't end up worshipping these figures. The prophet Muhammad was just a man, who was a messenger for God. Nothing more. Muslims are told to remember that, and avoid what they believe happened with Christianity (where Christians started believing that Jesus was the son of God or a God-like person, paintings and figures of Jesus everywhere). So that's one bad thing he did. Another is that he not only depicted him, but he mocked him and called him a child molester. It's like adding salt to the wound. The same happened in Denmark because they called the prophet a suicidal terrorist. It's one of those cultural barrier things, but people aren't angry because the prophet isn't being revered by the rest of the world. They're just very offended by a physical depiction of him, and even more offended by insults towards him.

I think this article summed it up well. [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/opinion/roger-cohen-chris-stevens-in-benghazi.html?smid=fb-share[/url]

[QUOTE=Marbalo;37661230]Hate speech falls under the category of Free speech. Neither of them should be illegal or used as grounds for prosecution.[/QUOTE] You will never know what it means to be a victim of hate speech until you actually have. Free speech is expressing an opinion, but hate speech? It's just hate. There is no opinion. I firmly believe it should remain illegal, and I'll assume you've never been in such a situation.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;37661272]You will never know what it means to be a victim of hate speech until you actually have. Free speech is expressing an opinion, but hate speech? It's just hate. There is no opinion. I firmly believe it should remain illegal, and I'll assume you've never been in such a situation.[/QUOTE] Would you consider it hate speech to call Christianity a cancer?

[QUOTE=Noble;37661299]Would you consider it hate speech to call Christianity a cancer?[/QUOTE] Yes.