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Hillary Clinton’s lead in the popular vote over President-elect Donald Trump has surpassed 1 million, according to Dave Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.
As the final vote counts continue to trickle in a week after Election Day, Wasserman’s [URL="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=19"][U]tally[/U][/URL] found that Clinton had 61,963,234 votes to Trump’s 60,961,185 as of Tuesday afternoon. [/quote]
it keeps fucking growing. I've heard people say it'll reach 2 million, I'm a bit skeptical of that though.
[URL="http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/clinton-popular-vote-trump-2016-election-231434"]http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/clinton-popular-vote-trump-2016-election-231434
[url]http://time.com/4572295/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-lead/[/url]
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RIGGED.
Even after the results, this election continues to be a huge stack of fuck.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377835][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798521053551140864[/media]
[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798519600413601792[/media]
:v:[/QUOTE]
incredible that this person is going to be the next president
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377835][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798521053551140864[/media]
[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798519600413601792[/media]
:v:[/QUOTE]Jesus Christ I very much wanted this to be a parody account. How can a man blast the electoral college in 2012 for being a joke and then win due to the electoral college in 2016 and praise if for being genius.
This man is going to be our President, I want off this ride
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377835][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798521053551140864[/media]
[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/798519600413601792[/media]
:v:[/QUOTE]
[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw[/media]
the funny part is during the 2012 election, he also said "He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!"
but he deleted that pretty quickly.
Trump 2012: The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
Trump 2016: The Electoral College is actually genius
Hmm. I wonder what changed his mind?
Something about the face thumbnail with squinting Trump always makes the realdonaldtrump posts much funnier.
[QUOTE=The Pretender;51377870]Trump 2012: The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
Trump 2016: The Electoral College is actually genius
Hmm. I wonder what changed his mind?[/QUOTE]
probably running for president and meeting the people who would get silenced if the electoral college was abandoned
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377880]probably running for president and meeting the people who would get silenced if the electoral college was abandoned[/QUOTE]
"silenced."
if we wanna play the game of saying X person's votes should count more than another, we could be at it forever. Does north dakota deserve like 5x the amount of votes because of its oil? Low gas prices are great for the economy. Maybe NY should get double because it's the financial capital of the US, and hurting it would take the economy down.
there's new reports of 3 million votes having been cast by illegals.
i wonder if this is them?
[url]http://www.inquisitr.com/3719036/3-million-illegal-immigrants-voted-gregg-phillips-votestand-donald-trump-final-popular-vote-count-2016-predictions/[/url]
nothing proven yet of course, but it would be interesting because i honestly wouldn't doubt clinton in going that far (i remember hearing something a few months ago about the democrats trying to let prisoners vote).
Sorry if this is a bit of a stupid question, but how come the votes are still coming in? I don't really understand how the system works.
[QUOTE=Sazzer401;51377887]Sorry if this is a bit of a stupid question, but how come the votes are still coming in? I don't really understand how this system works.[/QUOTE]
It just takes a long time, and I think sometimes counties will say "woah there. let's do it again." and there will also be other things like making sure votes are legitimate.
The election ACTUALLY ends on December the 19th, so there's plenty of time to be thorough.
[QUOTE=Sazzer401;51377887]Sorry if this is a bit of a stupid question, but how come the votes are still coming in? I don't really understand how the system works.[/QUOTE]
not all of them have been counted yet
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51377891]
The election ACTUALLY ends on December the 19th, so there's plenty of time to be thorough.[/QUOTE]
but then why would trump be announced president :v:
Just please stop, a Clinton presidency will just keep the War machine rolling.
I hate trump and hate a good chunk of his policies, but a Clinton presidency would be worse. You know Trump is crazy and he has no filter of the shit he says, Clinton has the filter of acting like "everything is normal" while letting her warhawk feathers fluff around while wall street has it's grip on D.C.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377880]probably running for president and meeting the people who would get silenced if the electoral college was abandoned[/QUOTE]
Yeah. That must be it. Nothing to do with how he's benefiting from it this time, or that his views exist on the quantum level and change every time someone looks at them.
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;51377906]Just please stop, a Clinton presidency will just keep the War machine rolling.
I hate trump and hate a good chunk of his policies, but a Clinton presidency would be worse. You know Trump is crazy and he has no filter of the shit he says, Clinton has the filter of acting like "everything is normal" while letting her warhawk feathers fluff around while wall street has it's grip on D.C.[/QUOTE]
We have no idea on the former, Trump has threatened war against Iran and Russia already, but he hasn't done anything concrete but uhhhh.
[quote]while wall street has it's grip on D.C.[/quote]
h...have you noticed the people he's been appointing?
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377880]probably running for president and meeting the people who would get silenced if the electoral college was abandoned[/QUOTE]
silenced? nah. the electoral college is extremely flawed and has nothing to do with that. it doesn't make presidential candidates want to run in smaller states at all.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/HBsNdWj.jpg[/t]
almost none of the states they run in on the last 2 months even have small populations.
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;51377906]a NAME presidency would be worse.[/QUOTE]
Tbh, its sad that I hear "would be worse" over "would be better" more
Like I see true trump/clinton supports that genuinely believe that X would be good for the country. But most of the time it's yeah but [SIDE] is WORSE! it's a cripplingly shitty thing to see that people have to pick what they feel is 'the less shitty side'
like yeah obviously that's the norm with politics, but its really bad with these two for sure. Now more than ever it's bad. We have an alleged criminal who ran against literally a businessman (by principle I could never vote for one unless we talk people who are really stellar dudes).
That and The idea of a business-man with no former political experience and an alleged criminal running the US over Bernie, who was a civil rights protester that actually means what he says is pretty sad.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51377903]but then why would trump be announced president :v:[/QUOTE]
Because you're not actually voting for who should be president, you're voting for who your states electors should vote for. Their election, which is what actually decides who becomes the president, is in December. The electors of each state are supposed to vote in line with their states popular vote, but they can all chose to vote for whoever they want.
So, technically Trump hasn't actually won the presidency yet, but unless a fuckton of those electors decide to vote against their state he'll win the presidency in a month.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377880]probably running for president and meeting the people who would get silenced if the electoral college was abandoned[/QUOTE]
yep, because all the people who voted against the winning party in their state whose votes literally do not count towards the real (electoral college) election aren't being silenced at all
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377880]probably running for president and meeting the people who would get silenced if the electoral college was abandoned[/QUOTE]
Being the minority doesn't silence you.
Hell, it apparently wins you the election twice out of the last five according to the electoral college system.
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What about me and the other 30% of Oklahomans that voted for Hillary, hmm? How are we not "silenced" right now? All 7 of our fucking electoral votes went to Trump, I might as well have just not voted.
[QUOTE=Pops;51377886]there's new reports of 3 million votes having been cast by illegals.
i wonder if this is them?
[url]http://www.inquisitr.com/3719036/3-million-illegal-immigrants-voted-gregg-phillips-votestand-donald-trump-final-popular-vote-count-2016-predictions/[/url]
nothing proven yet of course, but it would be interesting because i honestly wouldn't doubt clinton in going that far (i remember hearing something a few months ago about the democrats trying to let prisoners vote).[/QUOTE]
My theory is that Clinton is more popular and thus got more votes.
[QUOTE=elowin;51377951]Because you're not actually voting for who should be president, you're voting for who your states electors should vote for. Their election, which is what actually decides who becomes the president, is in December. The electors of each state are supposed to vote in line with their states popular vote, but they can all chose to vote for whoever they want.
So, technically Trump hasn't actually won the presidency yet, but unless a fuckton of those electors decide to vote against their state he'll win the presidency in a month.[/QUOTE]
I agree. US politics have degenerated to a pretty tragic point. An instant run-off voting system would eliminate the need to strategically vote in this way, however. Since there would be no need for primaries, you could simply rank your choices and simultaneously cast a vote for whichever few candidates most appeal to you. If your preferred candidate doesn't receive a majority share of the vote, your vote automatically transfers to your runner-up selection. If he doesn't, it transfers to your [I]next[/I] choice, and so on and so forth.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377880]probably running for president and meeting the people who would get silenced if the electoral college was abandoned[/QUOTE]
Tell me whose one vote suddenly means less than one vote if we took out the electoral college.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377880]probably running for president and meeting the people who would get silenced if the electoral college was abandoned[/QUOTE]
the people who are silenced are far less then the peoples whos voices are lessened by the electoral college. The electoral college is a vestigial structure from before widespread effective communications technology.
[QUOTE=Pops;51377886]there's new reports of 3 million votes having been cast by illegals.
i wonder if this is them?
[url]http://www.inquisitr.com/3719036/3-million-illegal-immigrants-voted-gregg-phillips-votestand-donald-trump-final-popular-vote-count-2016-predictions/[/url]
nothing proven yet of course, but it would be interesting because i honestly wouldn't doubt clinton in going that far (i remember hearing something a few months ago about the democrats trying to let prisoners vote).[/QUOTE]
...
Leave it up to zealous Donald Trump supporters to create bullshit conspiratorial rumors like this...
[quote](i remember hearing something a few months ago about the democrats trying to let prisoners vote).[/QUOTE]
Prisoners should be fucking allowed to vote. If they have truly been reformed and gotten a new life after being let out of jail, not allowing them to vote would be completely retarded.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;51378110]the people who are silenced are far less then the peoples whos voices are lessened by the electoral college. The electoral college is a vestigial structure from before widespread effective communications technology.[/QUOTE]
It's funny, I remember reading somewhere that the express intent of the electoral college is to keep a "charismatic tyrant" from fooling the uneducated masses into voting for him, so the electors act as a barrier to manipulation of the masses. And yet.. Here we are lol
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;51377880]probably running for president and meeting the people who would get silenced if the electoral college was abandoned[/QUOTE]
My vote was "silenced" by the electoral college [I]this year[/I].
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51376441]My thoughts on the electoral college are such: I'm from Virginia and I moved to Illinois. There's pretty much no reason for me to vote for Hilary in either state because both were going to be blue states.
If we actually had 1:1 voting, my vote would have mattered in the total count for the popular vote. But as it stands, my vote was inconsequential because the state was going to go to Clinton anyway.
I would like for anyone defending the electoral college to tell me what the purpose of me voting and wasting a few hours on a Tuesday was. The EC took any power away from my vote and that's one of the reasons why the average American doesn't care about voting.[/QUOTE]
Also, the vote of any republicans in my state was indefensibly worthless. None of their votes mattered once the state was called for Clinton. How is that fair to them?
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