• Is college/university education really worth it?
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I was wondering, because it seems to most people in my grade that the end-game of highschool is college, and once they graduate college, that everything will be perfectly fine and dandy. "I'm going to be a doctor!" "I'm going to be a programmer!" And it just doesn't seem likely that college is the do-all end-all for getting a job. from what i've heard, even college educated people can't find jobs. And it's only really seemed to me that people who ever use their college educations are people who do research/teach (scientists + professors). So, tell me. Have you ever used a college education? also: Am I the only one who can't stand people who actually achieve? I mean there's absolutely nothing wrong with being a doctor or being a lwayer, or setting goals or working hard. But i just can't imagine choosing a career. Something that you'll be stuck with for the rest of your life. Day-in, day-out, doing the same thing over and over. I couldn't imagine deciding how you were going to live your life from such a young age. I just don't want to live a life where i know where it's going. that's boring.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;20658391]I was wondering, because it seems to most people in my grade that the end-game of highschool is college, and once they graduate college, that everything will be perfectly fine and dandy. "I'm going to be a doctor!" "I'm going to be a programmer!" And it just doesn't seem likely that college is the do-all end-all for getting a job. from what i've heard, even college educated people can't find jobs. And it's only really seemed to me that people who ever use their college educations are people who do research/teach (scientists + professors). So, tell me. Have you ever used a college education? also: Am I the only one who can't stand people who actually achieve? I mean there's absolutely nothing wrong with being a doctor or being a lwayer, or setting goals or working hard.[B] But i just can't imagine choosing a career.[/B] Something that you'll be stuck with for the rest of your life. Day-in, day-out, doing the same thing over and over. I couldn't imagine deciding how you were going to live your life from such a young age. I just don't want to live a life where i know where it's going. that's boring.[/QUOTE] I don't think people should choose their careers just based on something like money or whatever, they should be chosen because a person has an interest in that or believes that they can better the world by being that. :3:
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I've only started my experience at the university and i have learned a fair amount in general. I think it really does help even though it seems like with the price of books and tuition that it can be somewhat of a scam. Also, everyone is having trouble finding jobs but people with a college education do typically get better, higher paying jobs. Edit: I still don't know what i'm majoring in either. I hope that through my studies i can find something that i enjoy. Even so you can do several things with almost any major. It doesn't have to be a restriction
[QUOTE=Kybalt;20658417]I don't think people should choose their careers just based on something like money or whatever, they should be chosen because a person has an interest in that or believes that they can better the world by being that. :3:[/QUOTE] Yes. Don't be a Lawyer or a Doctor just because you'll be making money. Choose a career that you like. I like science and I've been keeping fish for my entire life. I'm going to go into Marine Biology after high school.
You know who don't go to college? Underachievers. [sp] Although a lot of the time people don't end up doing what they want to do for their career anyway [/sp]
"It is ALWAYS better to know a thing than not to know a thing, regardless if it will make you money or not" - My history professor. Yes, college is worth it, even if you don't make a career out of your studies. You go there to get "educated". Doesn't mean focusing on one subject. It means everything. You want to learn about one particular thing constantly, go to a trade school.
If you have the chance to get a college degree, then get it. If you're not sure what you want to go for, then head for degree in Business Administration. With that degree you could run a small business, either for yourself or for someone else. If you don't have a degree it will narrow your choices in life. Why start out with less choices?
[QUOTE=Binsky;20658427]I've only started my experience at the university and i have learned a fair amount in general. I think it really does help even though it seems like with the price of books and tuition that it can be somewhat of a scam. Also, everyone is having trouble finding jobs but people with a college education do typically get better, higher paying jobs.[/QUOTE] Not only that, but when a company is looking for people to hire for a job their going to look at the resumes and see: John Doe: Masters degree in being Awesome. Billy Bob: High school education. Who are they more likely to schedule an interview with?
[QUOTE=Valdor;20658455]You know who don't go to college? Underachievers. [sp] Although a lot of the time people don't end up doing what they want to do for their career anyway [/sp][/QUOTE] Oh i'm most likely going to college, it's just that at this point, it seems that my life is supposed to be taking a straight path to a certain career. I don't want to know where i'll be in 10 years, let alone 5, when i actually get IN to college.
It doesn't ensure that you will get a job. Ir does however, gives you more choices and more factors on your side, when searching for a job.
Even saying that you've been to college will automatically put you a step ahead of any non-college people in a job market, even if that job market isn't what you want.
[QUOTE=OvB;20658475]Not only that, but when a company is looking for people to hire for a job their going to look at the resumes and see: John Doe: Masters degree in being Awesome. Billy Bob: High school education. Who are they more likely to schedule an interview with?[/QUOTE] what i'm saying is that people naturally assume that college diploma = job, but in this economy, there may not be jobs.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;20658479]Oh i'm most likely going to college, it's just that at this point, it seems that my life is supposed to be taking a straight path to a certain career. I don't want to know where i'll be in 10 years, let alone 5, when i actually get IN to college.[/QUOTE] A lot of people go into college uncertain. Some people end up changing Majors halfway through because their current one is shit. If you really don't know just take basic classes to better your chances at getting a job. If you come up with an idea for a future career you can change over anytime.
[QUOTE=OvB;20658475]Not only that, but when a company is looking for people to hire for a job their going to look at the resumes and see: John Doe: Masters degree in being Awesome. Billy Bob: High school education. Who are they more likely to schedule an interview with?[/QUOTE] Billy Bob, With a kickass name like that he has to be gold.
A lack of a college education is one of the leading reasons why many Americans live in shitty homes/ apartments, and usually suffer from debt. Although college doesn't guarantee you a job, it's still a better option than working a shitty middle class job the rest of your life.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;20658490]what i'm saying is that people naturally assume that college diploma = job, but in this economy, there may not be jobs.[/QUOTE] Of course, this economy is shit right now, But it won't hurt to have a diploma because a company will more than likely choose the guy with the diploma than the guy without one.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;20658490]what i'm saying is that people naturally assume that college diploma = job, but in this economy, there may not be jobs.[/QUOTE] Well even if the job market is off people with a college education will be fighting over jobs that are better, whereas people with only a high school education will have less of a selection and will more than likely have lesser pay
Uhh, yes it is very worth it. It doesn't matter if it helps you later in life with what you LEARN, it matters that job interviewers will accept college graduates over non.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;20658490]what i'm saying is that people naturally assume that college diploma = job, but in this economy, there may not be jobs.[/QUOTE] You're associating whether a college education is worth it based on whether or not the diploma will make them money, some people may find worth based on simply enjoying knowing about the subject.
When you have a college career you have fallback job options. Lots of them. When you work at 7/11 you have no fallback jobs, because 7/11 is about as low as it goes.
Worth the space: [img]http://www.onlinecollegesanduniversities.com/college_america/collegeamerica.jpg[/img] /thread You know its funny, I pasted this assuming it would help the subject, since it was entitled "Is College Worth It" BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP AT ALL
Put it this way, Take steps towards what you WANT to do for a living (High paying or not) and go to college too. That way you can either decide to get a nice paying job, or you can do what you love to do and it might pay nicely. Also, Despite the generalization marrying somebody that won't work is usually a bad idea. Having a double income makes things a lot easier.
You pretty much have to like it or not. It's already coming to the point that not having a college education is the equivalent of not having a high school diploma years back.
It's just that I don't really want to have a plan for life. I just kinda want to go with the flow, and College represents having to abandon that. When you make plans, they normally work. And I don't want plans.
Don't be afraid of the taboo society puts on not going to college. I'm a freshman in a university right now and it's just a huge waste of time and money. They require you to take all of these general classes that you'll end up not doing anything with in life. I think I'm just going to go to a Tech School next year for classes that focus on what you're actually going to be dealing with.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;20658665]It's just that I don't really want to have a plan for life. I just kinda want to go with the flow, and College represents having to abandon that. When you make plans, they normally work. And I don't want plans.[/QUOTE] Take basic classes at a local community college. You go like 3 days a week, and you're not working toward any real specific goal other than a college education.
[QUOTE=Pteradactyl;20658699]Don't be afraid of the taboo society puts on not going to college. I'm a freshman in a university right now and it's just a huge waste of time and money. They require you to take all of these general classes that you'll end up not doing anything with in life. I think I'm just going to go to a Tech School next year for classes that focus on what you're actually going to be dealing with.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter if the classes are pointless, it only matters that the people who give you the job look at the college you went to, and how you went. and on top of that, if you even went to college.
Uh yes, in this market a college degree is a must. You will get almost nowhere with a high school diploma. If you want a decent job that gives good pay you need to get a degree in something. You don't have to go to uni/college you can go to tech schools that provide just the classes you want.
Haha asians 1/2 :v:
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