• Turkey: "U.S. May Be Unsafe for Tourists"
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[QUOTE]Turkey’s Foreign Ministry issued a travel warning for the United States, citing dangers linked to protests and possible assaults by racists following the election of Donald Trump.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The statement, which echoes some of the stern language the U.S. used to describe what’s happened during previous demonstrations against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Turkey describes the demonstrations against Trump in Portland, where clashes yesterday turned violent, as an "uprising." On Oct. 29, the U.S. ordered family members of its consular staff in Istanbul to leave and the most recent statement from the U.S. embassy in Ankara said it had intelligence that "extremist groups are continuing aggressive efforts to attack U.S. citizens in areas of Istanbul where they reside or frequent." [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-13/turkey-turns-tables-with-warning-u-s-may-be-unsafe-for-tourists[/url]
We got the occasional mass bombing, the common guerilla fighters in the eastern US.
ok [media]https://youtu.be/bM09puPj1_o[/media]
That's very rich coming from Erdogan's Turkey.
He probably got his info from that genocide-denying site The Young Turks. To whom "an anti-Trump-protester getting her breast accidentally touched by a paper was enough of a reason to punch a guy in the face, after which she promptly got maced" was viewed as: "Trump supporters attack protester because she's a woman".
Kick Turkey out of NATO.
Construction site of Trump's wall would be safer than this place.
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;51365019]He probably got his info from that genocide-denying site The Young Turks.[/QUOTE] Funfact: The US itself won't officially recognise the Armenian Genocide for fear of hurting its relationship with Turkey.
[QUOTE=ferrus;51365186]Funfact: The US itself won't officially recognise the Armenian Genocide for fear of hurting its relationship with Turkey.[/QUOTE] Most countries won't since it's a great way to cut off all relations with turkey immediately
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51365203]Most countries won't since it's a great way to cut off all relations with turkey immediately[/QUOTE] [t]http://img02.imgland.net/EM9RyB6.png[/t]
To be fair to him there's a difference between danger in your home country, and danger when in a foreign country. When you're in your home country you will generally know how to avoid danger, and in a foreign country you might not be totally sure. In my local area for example there are towns where you'll be beaten for being in the wrong place depending on your race (goes both ways too) and certain parts of the city and various suburbs where crime is horribly rampant at certain times, and those of us who live here will know to avoid these parts. Even dangerous countries like say, Egypt are actually really safe if you know where and where not to be, since crime and violence tend to be in a few spots under a few circumstances.
Do we really need to be allies with Turkey? What have they done for us?
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51365613]Do we really need to be allies with Turkey? What have they done for us?[/QUOTE] they occupy a valuable strategic position
[QUOTE=ferrus;51365186]Funfact: The US itself won't officially recognise the Armenian Genocide for fear of hurting its relationship with Turkey.[/QUOTE] However, there are a number of state governments that officially recognize it. Though not on a national level, it's not completely forgotten here in the US. IIRC my state recognized it a few years ago.
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;51365019]He probably got his info from that genocide-denying site The Young Turks. To whom "an anti-Trump-protester getting her breast accidentally touched by a paper was enough of a reason to punch a guy in the face, after which she promptly got maced" was viewed as: "Trump supporters attack protester because she's a woman".[/QUOTE] You have to be really dense to not think a candidate who based half his campaign on a hardcore anti-islamist line being elected to president makes it perfectly safe for being a Muslim. [editline]13th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Trebgarta;51365634]-Housed nukes against USSR, houses nukes against Russia -Participated in Korea, Kosovo -Fights against IS -Participates in Afghanistan, ISAF, KFOR, UNIFIL, UN Haiti, UN Darfur, etc.[/QUOTE] To be fair, the only one of those four that are unique to Turkey is the first one.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51365613]Do we really need to be allies with Turkey? What have they done for us?[/QUOTE] Turkey has the second largest army in NATO and is one of the most important strategic positions geographically. Ballistic missile deployment in Turkey was one of the points of contention during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
[QUOTE=Perrine;51365619]they occupy a valuable strategic position[/QUOTE] Not exactly a "thing they did for us" so much as an unchangeable fact about them the US wants to take advantage of.
[QUOTE=StrykerE;51365690]Turkey has the second largest army in NATO and is one of the most important strategic positions geographically. Ballistic missile deployment in Turkey was one of the points of contention during the Cuban Missile Crisis.[/QUOTE] Well arn't we moving our nukes to Bosnia so....
[QUOTE=ferrus;51365186]Funfact: The US itself won't officially recognise the Armenian Genocide for fear of hurting its relationship with Turkey.[/QUOTE] Me and rest of the Armenian communities in the US won't stop fighting tho, sooner or later we make the government recognize it. Almost every state has already recognized it. Also we will get our lands back, now that the Kurds are revolting, it is going to be our chance to take our lands back too. Also just as my avatar says: "Freedom or death!"
[QUOTE=vrej;51365973]Me and rest of the Armenian communities in the US won't stop fighting tho, sooner or later we make the government recognize it. Almost every state has already recognized it. Also we will get our lands back, now that the Kurds are revolting, it is going to be our chance to take our lands back too. Also just as my avatar says: "Freedom or death!"[/QUOTE] The Kurds aren't exactly making inroads to successful independence in Turkey right now, how exactly is Armenia going to suddenly do better, out of the blue, while tensions are heightened between them and Azerbaijan right now?
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51366127]This is the problem I have with people who fight for its recognition. Sure I guess it is nice to acknowledge historical facts but there is a decent share of lunatics like this one that affirms and feeds Turkish Sevres Syndrome. "Take our lands back" and you wonder why they wont recognize. How deluded they must be.[/QUOTE] As if Armenia would ever succeed? It's not if acknowledging it will suddenly give Armenia a legal or military power to 're'take 'their' lands.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51366487]As he believes it would, Turks might believe the rest of the world might muscle it that way. Delusion through misinformation and reckless nationalism knows no bounds.[/QUOTE] We just want recognition right now. Fighting and taking our lands back is later and we don't say that when we are protesting.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51366487]As he believes it would, Turks might believe the rest of the world might muscle it that way. Delusion through misinformation and reckless nationalism knows no bounds.[/QUOTE] The end result would just be Turkey occupying Armenia after they overrun them. And then half their country would be partitioned to Azerbaijan. Pretty sure Turkey simply has the muscle to deal with Armenia; there is no reason to not acknowledge an atrocity everyone who was responsible for is now dead just for fear of Armenia trying to invade.
[QUOTE=vrej;51366571]We just want recognition right now. Fighting and taking our lands back is later and we don't say that when we are protesting.[/QUOTE] As an Armenian the fact that you wish harm upon the Turkish people for crimes committed against us in the past is asinine. Recognition worldwide for the tragedy that occurred would be amazing, but wanting our historic lands back like Highlands will never happen. Ill be honest tho and admit that im a bit surprised we have an actual ARF member here.
Never say never, when Erogdan eventually causes his country to completely collapse someone has to pick up the pieces, the Armenians are by far the most qualified to do the job.
[QUOTE=Jsoldier;51367761]As an Armenian the fact that you wish harm upon the Turkish people for crimes committed against us in the past is asinine. Recognition worldwide for the tragedy that occurred would be amazing, but wanting our historic lands back like Highlands will never happen. Ill be honest tho and admit that im a bit surprised we have an actual ARF member here.[/QUOTE] Hayeren ge khoses?
[QUOTE=vrej;51368807]Hayeren ge khoses?[/QUOTE] I don't, but im a proud Armenian nonetheless
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51365634] -Fights against IS [/QUOTE] OPTIMISTIC
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51365634]-Housed nukes against USSR, houses nukes against Russia -Participated in Korea, Kosovo -Fights against IS -Participates in Afghanistan, ISAF, KFOR, UNIFIL, UN Haiti, UN Darfur, etc.[/QUOTE] - Possibly exchanged Oil with ISIS - Leader is transforming his nation into a Islamic nation like Iran and Saudi Arabia - Still denies the Armenian genocide
[QUOTE=Jsoldier;51369164]I don't, but im a proud Armenian nonetheless[/QUOTE] That's good bro, don't forget your heritage at least. Also Turks even now are still bad people, they are currently committing a genocide aganist the Kurds and also they have jailed all the pro-democracy party members recently. So they are still the same people they where 100 years ago
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