• Astronaut says we're not alone- And Obama may disclose info about aliens
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[quote]Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar D. Mitchell, the sixth man ever to walk on the moon, has a message for all citizens of Earth: We are not alone. "We are being visited," the 79-year-old grandfatherly "spacefarer" told 100 or so UFOlogists gathered at a National Press Club conference called by the Paradigm Research Group (motto: "It's not about lights in the sky; it's about lies on the ground"). "It is now time to put away this embargo of truth about the alien presence," said the astronaut who made the longest moonwalk in history. "I call upon our government to open up ... and become a part of this planetary community that is now trying to take our proper role as a spacefaring civilization." With a new, perhaps more intellectually curious president in the White House, UFOlogists say, the time is ripe for the United States to follow the lead of other nations and release all classified files about government interaction with extraterrestrial beings. In fact, PRG founder Stephen Bassett demands that the Obama administration dump the documents, and quick. "If it does not disclose, by the end of May - this is not a threat or anything, you don't threaten the United States government, they're heavily armed ... the PRG has an enormous and substantial network, and quite a bit of documentary evidence connected to this, particularly politically ... and we are going to be extensively putting that out to the media, and we're just going to make it as difficult on them as possible," Mr. Bassett said. If Mr. Obama refuses, Mr. Bassett said there's a chance "above 50-50" that the United States could fall victim to another space gap, this time by being beaten by another nation more willing to finally admit "the extraterrestrial presence." "We will wake up and pick up The Washington Post or The Washington Times and the headline will read: 'President [Nicolas] Sarkozy of France today will tell the French people about a confirmation of an extraterrestrial presence and provide evidence from defense military files.' We will follow, and they will lead." Packed into the First Amendment Room on the 13th floor (UFOlogists are apparently not triskaidekaphobic), the conference featured a half-dozen experts - all but one titled "doctor." Former U.S. Air Force Lt. Milton Torres entranced the audience with a firsthand account of his encounter with a UFO. Flying over England on May 20, 1957, "I got this blob - it was not a blip, it was a blob" on his radar screen, big as an aircraft carrier, he said. "Then he took off at Mach 10," something around 7,000 mph. The 77-year-old retired professor of civil engineering choked up as he retold how he was forbidden by a "spook" ever to speak of the incident, even to his father. The incident came out in late 2008 when Britain declassified a batch of Ministry of Defense files on unidentified flying objects. "It was such a relief for them to let me know that I can talk about this," he said between sobs. Roger Leir, author, lecturer and "alien-implant researcher," told the group that "multimillions" have been abducted worldwide, and some have been implanted with strange, tiny devices used to monitor or control. Holding court afterward, the doctor said the devices are similar to how we humans "tag" animals. Tagging "about 15 percent of the species results in enough didactic knowledge to satisfy the curiosity of whoever put 'em in." Cheryll Jones, a former CNN news anchor, said she was surprised when she first started attending UFO events. "I was expecting a lot of crazies, tinfoil hats and all," she said with a laugh. "But I think we can all benefit from being a bit more curious. Look at the cattle mutilations. Maybe it's the military, but I don't know." Most, though, appeared to have come to see Mr. Mitchell. As perhaps the highest-profile claimant of alien visitation, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology doctor in aeronautics and astronautics told the gathering the time will come when we have to get off this rock we call Earth. "The sun will burn out in due course, and we have to be off this planet if our species is to survive," he said. "At this point in human history on this planet, we're now starting, and should be, to reach out beyond our planet and then beyond our solar system to find out what is really going on out there." After the press conference, Mr. Mitchell said he got involved because people with UFO encounters "figured I was reliable enough to carry their stories and not compromise them." "All of a sudden, when I began to realize the UFO phenomenon and alien visitation was real, I thought, 'OK, we're not alone in the universe.' That's pretty big news for we humans." Asked why there still is no definitive proof, he said: "We have that, it's just that it's been covered up and denied by the powers that be in our own government," adding that "there's a secret government" that may be run by the "military-industrial complex." "We've got to get to the bottom of this. It's our place in the universe we're talking about. We are really universal beings." And as to whether his foray into UFOlogy is detracting from his reputation, he said, "Maybe I'm damaging it, but it doesn't matter, because I know we're right about this." [/quote] Source: [url]http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/21/astronaut-says-were-not-alone/[/url]
yay more conspiracies
Hooray more alien bullshit. We KNOW you're covering up that evidence we admittedly aren't certain exists!
Sensational media dribble.
"Sometimes I think we are alone. Sometimes, I think we're not. Either way, the thought is incredible."
Eh I really don't give a shit
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More boo-sheet conspiracies.
It'd be interesting and, to be honest I'd not be the least surprised to find out that our governments are hiding things from us.
holy shit i look away for 4 seconds and there are 2 more replies
[QUOTE=Fronze;14786920]yay more conspiracies[/QUOTE] It's not much of a conspiracy... You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to think this is the only planet for life to ever evolve on. It's not much of a step from there to say they've been around longer and advanced further. Or perhaps have different elements to create things from, to allow for space travel. Our government usually doesn't like to drum things up if they can benefit from it, so it's most logical that they would avoid saying much about it.
[QUOTE=Lankist;14786925]Hooray more alien bullshit. We KNOW you're covering up that evidence we admittedly aren't certain exists![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrMortician;14786989]You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to think this is the only planet for life to ever evolve on.[/QUOTE] You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to think that true interstellar travelling space aliens actually have a credible chance of existing, let alone visiting earth.
Interesting, no least.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;14786989]It's not much of a step from there to say they've been around longer and advanced further. Or perhaps have different elements to create things from, to allow for space travel. Our government usually doesn't like to drum things up if they can benefit from it, so it's most logical that they would avoid saying much about it.[/QUOTE] They wouldn't have different elements to those that we have discovered, they would just be in different quantities, and there could be different compounds due to different pressures on them.
"Make evidence about aliens public! If you don't, then we'll know you're lying! Don't try and say that the evidence doesn't exist! You're just covering it up! And the French will be going into space!" What?
[QUOTE=NoDachi;14787020]You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to think that true interstellar travelling space aliens actually have a credible chance of existing, let alone visiting earth.[/QUOTE] Not really. Why can't another life supporting planet have had creatures for longer than earth, which have evolved into something different to humans but created civilisations, built rockets and started flying off? I mean, we are nearly at that stage, we just can't go particularly fast. But if you could crumple together bits of universe (the most common theory of how hyperspace would work), which black holes do in a way, you could go faster. So, why couldn't they ravel interstallarly, or even visit Earth? Personally, I don't believe that they have, but they could have done.
Nobody but the people saying "LOLSPIRACY!!!" have said that their talking about generic movie aliens. The definition of an alien is an outsider, for all we know, there's just a more advanced version of us there that the government didn't want us to know about. Hell, maybe the 'aliens' are animals, or just very simple organisms that live on space rocks. Nobody ever actually said that they had to walk on two legs and be super smart but the people who deny it.
[QUOTE=Negrul1;14787107]Not really. Why can't another life supporting planet have had creatures for longer than earth, which have evolved into something different to humans but created civilisations, built rockets and started flying off? I mean, we are nearly at that stage, we just can't go particularly fast. But if you could crumple together bits of universe (the most common theory of how hyperspace would work), which black holes do in a way, you could go faster. So, why couldn't they ravel interstallarly, or even visit Earth? Personally, I don't believe that they have, but they could have done.[/QUOTE] Because any credible astrophysicist would tell you how interstellar travel is practically impossible, and unless some bloody fundamental things that we've already got hammered down well change dramatically, then interstellar travel simply won't exist. Ever.
[QUOTE=Lankist;14786925]Hooray more alien bullshit. We KNOW you're covering up that evidence we admittedly aren't certain exists![/QUOTE] How are aliens bullshit? Another exoplanet's been discovered that's earth like conditions so tiny bacteria might be there which would be aliens.
[QUOTE=markg06;14787191]How are aliens bullshit? Another exoplanet's been discovered that's earth like conditions so tiny bacteria might be there which would be aliens.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the input, Drake.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;14787187]Because any credible astrophysicist would tell you how interstellar travel is practically impossible, and unless some bloody fundamental things that we've already got hammered down well change dramatically, then interstellar travel simply won't exist. Ever.[/QUOTE] [I]Practically[/I]. Last I checked nothing is actually impossible, there's still a fraction of a percent that it might happen. Hell, you being born was one in a trillion(?) chance, another sperm could have made it first and there goes your shot.
calling them aliens is stupid, call if life. aliens are guys from movies dressed up as idiots
We aren't alone, I guarantee it, but We'll never meet an alien civilization, ever.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;14787187]Because any credible astrophysicist would tell you how interstellar travel is practically impossible, and unless some bloody fundamental things that we've already got hammered down well change dramatically, then interstellar travel simply won't exist. Ever.[/QUOTE] Ever heard of zero point energy? If we can ever can ever create a better power source, we'll be very very close long distance space travel. And we're not very far away from that either.
[QUOTE=Boomersocks;14787225]calling them aliens is stupid, call if life. aliens are guys from movies dressed up as idiots[/QUOTE] Alien, noun: [quote]# foreigner: a person who comes from a foreign country; someone who does not owe allegiance to your country [/quote]
[QUOTE=Negrul1;14787107]Not really. Why can't another life supporting planet have had creatures for longer than earth, which have evolved into something different to humans but created civilisations, built rockets and started flying off? I mean, we are nearly at that stage, we just can't go particularly fast. But if you could crumple together bits of universe (the most common theory of how hyperspace would work), which black holes do in a way, you could go faster. So, why couldn't they ravel interstallarly, or even visit Earth? Personally, I don't believe that they have, but they could have done.[/QUOTE] I doubt alien spaceships would go any faster than light either. Therefore it'd make more sense to send us electromagnetic signals instead of personally coming here. Alas, no such signals have been detected. Except one, I think, but it never repeated.
I don't see aliens the way media see it, I think they are pretty much like us, more-or-less evolved.
[QUOTE=markg06;14787191]How are aliens bullshit? Another exoplanet's been discovered that's earth like conditions so tiny bacteria might be there which would be aliens.[/QUOTE] Wrong. None have been 'discovered' with earth like conditions. They just detected ones that 'could possibly' have those conditions, they simply just won't know. Not for a long time. If the planets are in detection range, they any artificial radio waves would be easily detectable. Alas, there are none.
I don't think any government will ever release the truth about aliens.
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