• Israel to Ease Gaza Blockade
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[img_thumb]http://istanbul.usconsulate.gov/uploads/rd/7y/rd7yk7lh24jxzhn1vD-Isw/voanews.jpg[/img_thumb] [url=http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/Israel-to-Ease-Gaza-Blockade-96548694.html]Sauce[/url] [quote=VOAnews] Israel has agreed to ease its blockade of the Gaza Strip and allow more humanitarian aid into the Hamas-ruled territory by land. Israel's Security Cabinet approved the plan Thursday. A statement from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said it will allow more material for use in civilian projects under international supervision to enter Gaza, but did not elaborate. The statement also said materials that could be used to make weapons will still be prohibited. The Hamas-run territory has faced a shortage of cement and steel needed for rebuilding since Israeli forces completed an offensive against the Palestinian militant group last year. Hamas officials dismissed the Israeli move as propaganda, and called for a complete end to the blockade. Israel's naval blockade remains unchanged. The agreement to ease the blockade comes as U.S. Middle East Envoy George Mitchell returns to the region to resume indirect peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians. Syria's leader says Israel's deadly raid last month on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla has destroyed any chance for peace in the near future. President Bashar Assad tells the BBC the raid has raised the risk of war in the region. On Wednesday, a special Israeli commission set up to investigate the aid flotilla raid convened for the first time. The committee's chairman, retired Israeli Supreme Court justice Jacob Turkel, said he hopes the panel will finish its investigation as soon as possible. The Turkish government formed its own committee to investigate the May 31 raid. The Turkish Foreign Ministry said Wednesday the panel will assess the raid's national and international dimensions and prepare the ground for a possible international investigation. Israel has faced intense international pressure to end its three-year economic blockade of Gaza, since Israeli commandos killed nine pro-Palestinian activists after boarding one of the convoy's vessels. The Turkish charity that helped organize the flotilla said Wednesday it would send another six ships at the end of July in an attempt to break the blockade. Israeli media reported Wednesday that Israel has added the charity, the Humanitarian Relief Foundation, to its terrorism watch list. Israel and several Western countries say the charity has links to Muslim militants, which the group denies. Some information for this report was provided by AP, AFP and Reuters. [/quote] A step in the right direction?
Await excuses to not go through with it.
Probably. It won't hurt letting in it under supervision and the blockade was a mess to start with. If it's just concrete though then they are showing how bureaucratic they are.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22679573]Probably. It won't hurt letting in it under supervision and the blockade was a mess to start with. If it's just concrete though then they are showing how bureaucratic they are.[/QUOTE] Wait, I might have you mixed up but weren't you the guy who was wholeheartedly for the blockade? :raise:
Concrete and building materials were already allowed into Gaza if the UN and humanitarian groups were the ones receiving them. Hopefully they will allow more foodstuff that will stop the starvation, though I bet it won't be enough.
Easing the blockade without elabroating what they mean isn't really helpful ---- "But will still ban materials that can make weapons" That's vauge.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;22679728]Wait, I might have you mixed up but weren't you the guy who was wholeheartedly for the blockade? :raise:[/QUOTE] Define wholeheartedly. I support the blockade and it's goal but dislike many of the practices in place. Unnecesary restrictions and a lack of care for the civlians wellbeing is just detrimental to the entire effort and fixing it up leads to a more efficient operation.
Good step forward. More details would be wonderful though.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22680006]Easing the blockade without elabroating what they mean isn't really helpful ---- "But will still ban materials that can make weapons" That's vauge.[/QUOTE] It means they're at least letting [I]something[/I] in. Also, it's "vague". Typo there :v:
A step in the right direction.
prediction: a month later isreal does something contradictory to peace yet again
[QUOTE=billeh!;22681928]prediction: a month later isreal does something contradictory to peace yet again[/QUOTE] Here's another one: There will be a great debate here when said event occurs.
Even if the blockade ended entirely, it wouldn't change much unless you expect them survive on aid and trade alone. Their land is infertile and their fisherman can't fish 3 miles off-shore without being shot by Israel's navy.
[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22682003]Here's another one: There will be a [b]many[/b] great debate[b]s[/b] here when said event occurs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;22683434]Even if the blockade ended entirely, it wouldn't change much unless you expect them survive on aid and trade alone. Their land is infertile and their fisherman can't fish 3 miles off-shore without being shot by Israel's navy.[/QUOTE] Land can be, if properly cultivated, turned fertile no matter what the condition, unless you live out in the tundra.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22681838]It means they're at least letting [I]something[/I] in. Also, it's "vague". Typo there :v:[/QUOTE] I was using my iPod Touh :(
[QUOTE=starpluck;22683986]I was using my iPod Touh :([/QUOTE] Ah, well that's your problem right there :v:
Oh what the fuck? iPod [B]Touh[/B]? I'm using a keyboard.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22683879]Land can be, if properly cultivated, turned fertile no matter what the condition, unless you live out in the tundra.[/QUOTE] The problem is that it's one giant city. There are small farmlands in the north but not big enough to support the whole populace. Gaza will on foreign aid for a long, long time, before they can be truly independent.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22684727]The problem is that it's one giant city. There are small farmlands in the north but not big enough to support the whole populace. Gaza will on foreign aid for a long, long time, before they can be truly independent.[/QUOTE] That can be circumvented easily. Every city has backyards and areas that can be turned from lawns to mini-biointensive gardens. I myself have grow a garden in my backyard, and with the right techniques such as raised beds and good soil aeration, you could manage to grow quite a lot of food. A lot of the books I have on the subject talk about how it could be managed to grow 100 pounds of vegetables in under 32 square feet, which is an amazing feat. Labor wise though, for Gaza I can see that hard to be. I doubt they have the man power willing to dedicate themselves to such a task, especially with such war going on. [I]If[/I] there was a lasting peace there, they could [I]in theory[/I] manage it. But I don't think it'll be any time soon, sadly.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22685147]That can be circumvented easily. Every city has backyards and areas that can be turned from lawns to mini-biointensive gardens. I myself have grow a garden in my backyard, and with the right techniques such as raised beds and good soil aeration, you could manage to grow quite a lot of food. A lot of the books I have on the subject talk about how it could be managed to grow 100 pounds of vegetables in under 32 square feet, which is an amazing feat. Labor wise though, for Gaza I can see that hard to be. I doubt they have the man power willing to dedicate themselves to such a task, especially with such war going on. [I]If[/I] there was a lasting peace there, they could [I]in theory[/I] manage it. But I don't think it'll be any time soon, sadly.[/QUOTE] How many cities you know of that run off "mini-bio intensive" gardens? A huge environmental task like that is a lot to ask for a city especially one thats been dilapidated from bombings and civil unrest.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;22685290]How many cities you know of that run off "mini-bio intensive" gardens? A huge environmental task like that is a lot to ask for a city especially one thats been dilapidated from bombings and civil unrest.[/QUOTE] Again, I wasn't saying it's completely feasible for Gaza, just saying that it's [I]possible.[/I] I mean it if Gaza and Israel actually some how god willing got to a lasting peace, it would be a good way to immediately help themselves food wise, and ween off humanitarian aide and become more independent.
And people will still shit on Israel
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