• Ford says electric vehicles will overtake gas in 15 years
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[QUOTE]Ford is making a big announcement in electrification today. CEO Mark Field confirmed several new models will receive electric drivetrain options, including its flagship F-150 pickup truck that will double as an on-site generator. In 2015, Ford announced a $4.5 billion investment in electric vehicles in order to introduce 13 new models. Today, it confirmed 7 of those 13 new models and the list will surprise a few: a new all-electric SUV with “at least” 300 miles of range, a hybrid F-150 and a hybrid Mustang, a Transit Custom plug-in hybrid and 2 new electric police vehicles. [/QUOTE] [url]https://electrek.co/2017/01/03/ford-new-electric-cars/[/url] Similar to the other thread but focusing on a different aspect.
[quote]hybrid Mustang[/quote] gib
Adapt or die
This is great. They're going to have to force other car companies to invest and get on the electric train or be left in the dust.
I doubt it's going to happen in just 15 years. I mean, there's still people driving cars that are much older than 15 years today. I don't see that transition happening so fast.
[QUOTE=simkas;51618408]I doubt it's going to happen in just 15 years. I mean, there's still people driving cars that are much older than 15 years today. I don't see that transition happening so fast.[/QUOTE] it's not that the transition will be complete then, it's that they predict that they'll be selling more electric cars than gasoline ones by the mid 2030s
[quote]2 new electric police vehicles[/quote] If they can make them as rugged and affordable as ICE police vehicles, that will be excellent for law enforcement. Police work really wears down ICE engines in ways that would not effect an electric engine. Maybe they could even take it a step further and program electrics to automatically stop and engage parking breaks when the officer leaves the vehicle in a hurry. (currently it's common for an officer to engage the breaks and begin to exit [I]before[/I] fully stopped, which is hell on the engine and breaks)
Defo planning on getting an electric car after the current one is done, should be in about 8 years
[QUOTE=simkas;51618408]I doubt it's going to happen in just 15 years. I mean, there's still people driving cars that are much older than 15 years today. I don't see that transition happening so fast.[/QUOTE] If they ban non electric vehicles then people will be forced to adapt
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51618431]If they can make them as rugged and affordable as ICE police vehicles, that will be excellent for law enforcement. Police work really wears down ICE engines in ways that would not effect an electric engine. Maybe they could even take it a step further than program electrics to automatically stop and engage parking breaks when the officer leaves the vehicle in a hurry. (currently it's common for an officer to engage the breaks and begin to exit [I]before[/I] fully stopped, which is hell on the engine and breaks)[/QUOTE] Acceleration of the 'engine' EVs is going to be absolutely grand for traffic cops needing to stop someone in a jiffy. Just pure torque.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51618431]If they can make them as rugged and affordable as ICE police vehicles, that will be excellent for law enforcement. Police work really wears down ICE engines in ways that would not effect an electric engine. Maybe they could even take it a step further than program electrics to automatically stop and engage parking breaks when the officer leaves the vehicle in a hurry. (currently it's common for an officer to engage the breaks and begin to exit [I]before[/I] fully stopped, which is hell on the engine and breaks)[/QUOTE] interestingly, self-driving police cars could pheasably completely replace the highway patrol
[QUOTE=Judas;51618452]interestingly, self-driving police cars could pheasably completely replace the highway patrol[/QUOTE] Won't replace them. Just make the officers job easier. Can do their job without having to concentrate on driving.
meanwhile they're spinning the story that this was all trump's doing so hard their tires have gone bald
[QUOTE=Sableye;51618457]meanwhile they're spinning the story that this was all trump's doing so hard their tires have gone bald[/QUOTE] This has nothing to do with Trump.
[QUOTE=Judas;51618452]interestingly, self-driving police cars could pheasably completely replace the highway patrol[/QUOTE] How exactly does a self driving car figure out if someone is DUI?
[QUOTE=soulharvester;51618590]How exactly does a self driving car figure out if someone is DUI?[/QUOTE] the same way a cop does, by lookng at the person's driving
I meant after they pull over
[quote]hybrid Mustang[/quote] My pants are tightened.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51618431]If they can make them as rugged and affordable as ICE police vehicles, that will be excellent for law enforcement. Police work really wears down ICE engines in ways that would not effect an electric engine. Maybe they could even take it a step further and program electrics to automatically stop and engage parking breaks when the officer leaves the vehicle in a hurry. (currently it's common for an officer to engage the breaks and begin to exit [I]before[/I] fully stopped, which is hell on the engine and breaks)[/QUOTE] a fast braking routine would probably be a cakewalk to set up, cars already have seat weight sensors to yell at people for not being buckled yet (unsure if in driver seat since it's a given someone's in it), just toggle if the door's opened, buckle undone, and seat emptied
fuck I'm gonna be so pissed when they ban ICE's all that work restoring a ~60 old car down the drain
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51618431]If they can make them as rugged and affordable as ICE police vehicles, that will be excellent for law enforcement. Police work really wears down ICE engines in ways that would not effect an electric engine. Maybe they could even take it a step further and program electrics to automatically stop and engage parking breaks when the officer leaves the vehicle in a hurry. (currently it's common for an officer to engage the breaks and begin to exit [I]before[/I] fully stopped, which is hell on the engine and breaks)[/QUOTE] Eletric vehicles would work well for the minorty of law enforcement that works in urban areas. Gotta remember that like 75% of law enforcement in the states has less than 25 officers in their department. Everyone else working in rural areas will still find a way to break them.. its just a nature of the job. They'll break things you didnt think could break
[QUOTE=MrBunneh;51618644]fuck I'm gonna be so pissed when they ban ICE's all that work restoring a ~60 old car down the drain[/QUOTE] They're not going to ban ICE
[QUOTE=MrBunneh;51618644]fuck I'm gonna be so pissed when they ban ICE's all that work restoring a ~60 old car down the drain[/QUOTE] It won't happen. There is no point. ICE's aren't inherently dangerous to the public and as the market shifts to electrics, fuel use and emissions will drop naturally.
[QUOTE=MrBunneh;51618644]fuck I'm gonna be so pissed when they ban ICE's all that work restoring a ~60 old car down the drain[/QUOTE] Bud literally the worst they'll do is ban the [I]new production[/I] of ICE cars except in [I]super shpecial circumstances.[/I] Kinda like how they've done with incandescent lightbulbs. You can [I]use em[/I] all you want, but thats to empty the remaining stock. Virtually zero new incandescent bulbs are being manufactured these days. [editline]3rd January 2017[/editline] Although that reminds me of i, robot. Whip out the "antique" motorcycle and she's like "DOES THIS RUN ON GASOLINE?? YOU DO KNOW GASOLINE EXPLODES RIGHT??"
[QUOTE=MrBunneh;51618644]fuck I'm gonna be so pissed when they ban ICE's all that work restoring a ~60 old car down the drain[/QUOTE] they aren't going to until probably long after you're dead, even if they decide to do it most likely what we'll see is a complete ban on ICE cars taking effect in the latter half of this century?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51618284]gib[/QUOTE] But please don't make it look all futuristic and shit.
[QUOTE=MrBunneh;51618644]fuck I'm gonna be so pissed when they ban ICE's all that work restoring a ~60 old car down the drain[/QUOTE] If they do eventually ban ICE car production I will still drive an ICE, I will drive it and maintain it until it's too expensive for me to keep maintaining and then i'll stop driving altogether. [b]Edit:[/b] Also, Ford Mustangs with anything other than V8s are basically sacrilegious to me, Ford Mustangs that are hybrids are doubly so.
[QUOTE=GoldenDargon;51619222]If they do eventually ban ICE car production I will still drive an ICE, I will drive it and maintain it until it's too expensive for me to keep maintaining and then i'll stop driving altogether. [b]Edit:[/b] Also, Ford Mustangs with anything other than V8s are basically sacrilegious to me, Ford Mustangs that are hybrids are doubly so.[/QUOTE] What's wrong witha hybrid Mustang? The fastest cars in the world are hybrids.
If that's what you want, Ford, you better release a $25,000 all electric car [i]right the fuck now[/i]. If the current trend of 'These things cost more than most people make in an entire year' continues with you lot it's gonna be closer to 25-30 years simply because nobody can afford the fucking things. That, more than anything else, is why I've never seen a Tesla in person. [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51618431]If they can make them as rugged and affordable as ICE police vehicles, that will be excellent for law enforcement. Police work really wears down ICE engines in ways that would not effect an electric engine. Maybe they could even take it a step further and program electrics to automatically stop and engage parking breaks when the officer leaves the vehicle in a hurry. (currently it's common for an officer to engage the breaks and begin to exit [I]before[/I] fully stopped, which is hell on the engine and breaks)[/QUOTE] They will be terrible for police work, though. Battery life still just isn't there and the LAST thing you want is the officer responding to your home invasion call running out of juice halfway there. They [b][i][u]need[/u][/i][/b] the ability to refresh every inch of vehicle range within just a couple of minutes two or three times a day in order to do their job effectively, if they cannot do this, police departments will not buy them because it will get people killed. And raped. And robbed. It's one thing for an office drone to be inconvenienced because their tesla ran out of juice on the highway. It's another thing for your grandmother to get stabbed in the face 32 times because the cops ran out of juice halfway there and couldn't save her life.
[QUOTE=TestECull;51619247]If that's what you want, Ford, you better release a $25,000 all electric car [i]right the fuck now[/i]. If the current trend of 'These things cost more than most people make in an entire year' continues with you lot it's gonna be closer to 25-30 years simply because nobody can afford the fucking things. That, more than anything else, is why I've never seen a Tesla in person. They will be terrible for police work, though. Battery life still just isn't there and the LAST thing you want is the officer responding to your home invasion call running out of juice halfway there. They [b][i][u]need[/u][/i][/b] the ability to refresh every inch of vehicle range within just a couple of minutes two or three times a day in order to do their job effectively, if they cannot do this, police departments will not buy them because it will get people killed. And raped. And robbed. It's one thing for an office drone to be inconvenienced because their tesla ran out of juice on the highway. It's another thing for your grandmother to get stabbed in the face 32 times because the cops ran out of juice halfway there and couldn't save her life.[/QUOTE] Energy density is increasing and charging times are going down at a pretty decent rate. Doesn't seem like ford are going to be ready to do anything electric before 2020 though. I imagine their rollout will be pretty slow as well since they aren't working on any battery factories. Tesla's CTO JB straubel has the long term goal of 5 min recharges. It's possible that Tesla will have that tech ready by the time ford get any mass volume production going.
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