• Israeli academic: raping Palestinian women would deter attacks: University defends his remarks
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[quote]Dr. Mordechai Kedar, an Israeli scholar of Arabic literature and lecturer at Bar-Ilan University, declared Monday that raping the wives and mothers of Palestinian combatants would deter attacks. [/quote] [quote]"The only thing that could deter a suicide bomber is knowing that if caught, his sister or his mother would be raped," said Kedar during a radio talk show.[/quote] [quote] Note that his university did not reprimand him. They defended his comments: The purpose was to define the culture of death of the terrorist organizations. Dr Kedar illustrated in his words the bitter reality of the Middle East and the inability of a modern and law-abiding country to fight the terror of suicide bombers. [/quote] [url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.606542[/url]
[quote]"The only thing that could deter a suicide bomber is knowing that if caught, his sister or his mother would be raped,"[/quote] [I]Only?[/I] Death and torture aren't a criteria at all?
Why are you posting this again when you just had your last thread locked? And also who cares if someone defends him? People will defend the pro-palestinian protesters who attacked Jewish businesses in France. People will defend anything when they agree with it, even in the slightest.
You've done it again. You posted this idiots comments. Who gives a fuck what this nut-job says.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;45466643]Why are you posting this again when you just had your last thread locked? And also who cares if someone defends him? People will defend the pro-palestinian protesters who attacked Jewish businesses in France. People will defend anything when they agree with it, even in the slightest.[/QUOTE] It was locked due to a bad news source, not for the content itself.
Doggunn, you should have read the article linked. [quote]Kedar chose not to be interviewed. A joint response with spokeswomen from Bar Ilan stated that he “did not call and is not calling to fight terror except by legal and moral means.” It also said Kedar “wanted to illustrate that there is no means of deterring suicide bombers, and using hyperbole, he gave the rape of women as an example. In order to remove all doubt: Dr. Kedar’s words do not, God forbid, contain a recommendation to commit such despicable acts. The intention was to describe the culture of death of the terror organizations. Dr. Kedar was describing the bitter reality of the Middle East and the inability of a modern and liberal law-abiding country to fight against the terror of suicide bombers.”[/quote]
He's back! Hail to the King, baby! [QUOTE]What a bastard. Another mislead and insane academic with no knowledge of the world.[/QUOTE] From your old thread.
i think we all know why this thread was posted, and i can see malice behind it
[img]http://grottoazzurro.typepad.com/the_blue_grotto/images/2007/11/06/onion_imagearticle1680.jpg[/img] I'll just leave this here.
[QUOTE=Lamar;45466658]Doggunn, you should have read the article linked.[/QUOTE] Yeah I did reread it. And you're right, they are quoted as saying that (of course with you taking it out of context too), and I've edited my post, however, it's as usual Haaretz finding these nutjobs to stir up shit. They're over 3 weeks late to posting this and they're only doing it to inflame the situation. And you're only posting this stupid shit to inflame the situation. [editline]23rd July 2014[/editline] This guy is no different to the few idiots out there that call for the eradication of Israel and or the Jews. Give no notice to them and they won't exist.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45466653]You've done it again. You posted this idiots comments. Who gives a fuck what this nut-job says.[/QUOTE] He's a professor..
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45466732]He's a professor..[/QUOTE] And? Him being an professor should give no persuasion to an argument - especially one as radicalised and evidently stupid as this. Anyone that suggests such a thing is clearly a nut-job, academic or not.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45466761]And? Him being an professor should give no persuasion to an argument - especially one as radicalised and evidently stupid as this. Anyone that suggests such a thing is clearly a nut-job, academic or not.[/QUOTE] So, he's not just a nut-job, he's shaping the intellectual landscape of Israel. It's not like some guy on the street just said this, he words actually mean something to people.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45466778]So, he's not just a nut-job, he's shaping the intellectual landscape of Israel. It's not like some guy on the street just said this.[/QUOTE] His argument would get no credence if it weren't posted. But he said something stupid, and now it's going to be repeated over and over again. There's always going to be some crazy people in the academic sphere, and clearly this is one of them, but by no means he is not the majority of them.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45466778]So, he's not just a nut-job, he's shaping the intellectual landscape of Israel. It's not like some guy on the street just said this, he words actually mean something to people.[/QUOTE] Any professor can say something stupid. It doesn't mean they are "shaping the intellectual landscape", it just means they're a twat.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45466794]His argument would get no credence if it weren't posted. But he said something stupid, and now it's going to be repeated over and over again. There's always going to be some crazy people in the academic sphere, and clearly this is one of them, but by no means he is not the majority of them.[/QUOTE] Lets ignore the fact the institution he speaks for as a professor, [B]IS DEFENDING HIS STATEMENTS.[/B]
Oh yes, but if they did anything bt the institution would be accused of stifling free speech. It's not ignoring any fact at all. He's a nutjob, and no one should take notice of him.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45467295]Oh yes, but if they did anything bt the institution would be accused of stifling free speech. [/QUOTE] Defending a comment is worlds apart from stifling free speech.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45467295]Oh yes, but if they did anything bt the institution would be accused of stifling free speech. It's not ignoring any fact at all. He's a nutjob, and no one should take notice of him.[/QUOTE] There is a not so fine line between not commenting on the insane views of a professor working in your institution (thereby not stifling free speech) and underhandedly agreeing and defending his idiotic point of view.
[url]http://www.alternativenews.org/english/index.php/politics/israeli-sosaciety/8314-israeli-academic-raping-palestinian-women-would-deter-attacks[/url] They're not saying that they should be raped, this is taken completely out of context. I'll translate the conversation for you: 1:34:00 (host) "Hello to Dr.Mordecai" 1:34:04 (guest) "Hello Yossi" 1:34:05 (host) "The center for Arabic literature in the University of Bar-Ilan" 1:34:06 (host) "We want to talk about Hamas of course" 1:34:10 (host) "But before we do that, I want to go back to a question I asked earlier" 1:34:15 (host) "A question which a different guest asked, A member of the Knesset" 1:34:18 (host) "How do you deter a terrorist organization which holds principles like that death for Allah is given the highest praise, how do you deter such an agent?" 1:34:33 (guest) "Ok, to understand that you need to understand the culture that we live by and try to survive by" 1:34:35 (guest) "The leaders, the only thing that deters them is the danger on their heads and their Budget" 1:34:45 (guest) "They don't suicide, they send other people to suicide for them" 1:34:48 (host) "Uhuh" 1:34:49 (guest) "And that is the only thing that deters the leaders" 1:34:59 (host) "So can it permeate downwards?" 1:35:00 (guest) "No, because downwards the things are completely different" [B]1:35:05 (guest) "A terrorist like Elluh, that kidnapped the children and killed them" 1:35:08 (guest) "The only thing that could deter him is, if they get known that either their sister or mother will be raped if they get caught" 1:35:19 (host) "That sounds really bad" 1:35:20 (guest) "It does sound very bad, but that's what there is, that is the Middle east" 1:35:22 (host) "Well, we definitely can't use such means" 1:35:33 (guest) "I'm currently talking about them, I'm not talking about what we should or not do" [/B] If someone was actually advocating rape on Israeli radio, there would be an very big reaction. I want to remind everyone, that we support gay rights, and that our women serve in the military. I can assure you that if this was actually the way the as the article described it, there would be a massive uproar.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45467295]Oh yes, but if they did anything bt the institution would be accused of stifling free speech. It's not ignoring any fact at all. He's a nutjob, and no one should take notice of him.[/QUOTE] If he had said that without the university defending his comment, I wouldn't have posted this story at all. Its the very fact that the Israeli university employing this nutjob is defending him instead of reprimanding/firing him.
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