• Group moves to stop Powell from being buried next to sons
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[quote]SEATTLE (Reuters) - A Tacoma anti-crime group on Wednesday purchased a pair of burial plots next to the gravesite of two young boys who were killed when their father burned their house to the ground, effectively blocking him from being buried next to them. The murder-suicide that claimed the lives of Josh Powell and his sons, Charles, 7, and Braden, 5, earlier this month capped a grim family saga that began over two years ago with the disappearance of the boys' mother, Susan, under suspicious circumstances in Utah. Powell's family had in recent days taken steps to purchase a plot located next to the boys' gravesite in Woodbine Cemetery in Puyallup, Washington, prompting their maternal grandparents, Charles and Judy Cox, to initiate legal action to block the sale, their attorney Anne Bremner said. Bremner said Crime Stoppers of Tacoma-Pierce County, which assists local law enforcement agencies in solving crimes and locating fugitives, had stepped in on Wednesday to buy the two plots. Bremner said she had been told of the purchase by Detective Ed Troyer, public information officer for the Pierce County Sheriff's Department who is also executive director of the nonprofit organization. "He just wanted to make sure that Josh Powell was nowhere near them," Bremner said. "Clearly enough was enough." Troyer and Pierce County Sheriff Paul Pastor announced the purchase of the plots during an interview on Seattle radio station KIRO FM, saying that no public money was being used. Pastor told the radio station that one of the plots will be reserved for the boys' mother, Susan Powell, who went missing in 2009. Puyallup City Manager Ralph Dannenberg said the move came amid outcry in the community over the proximity of the burial sites. "I can't tell you the number of emails I've gotten about this," Dannenberg said. Dannenberg reported that the sale of the adjacent burial plot to Powell's family had already been suspended through Friday pending the filing of a temporary restraining order by the Cox family. But Bremner said the purchase of the burial plots would end the need for further legal action by the Cox family. "They need to rest in peace," Bremner said of the two boys. Charles and Braden Powell had been at the center of a bitter custody fight between Powell and his wife's parents when they died after their father set off a fiery explosion that consumed his house as a social worker, locked outside, watched in horror. Medical examiners later said the two brothers, killed during what was to have been a supervised visit with Powell, had suffered chop wounds from hatchet blows inflicted by their father moments before all three died of smoke inhalation. They were laid to rest in a single closed, light blue casket following a memorial service attended by more than 1,000 mourners.[/quote] [url]http://www.wtkr.com/news/nationworld/sns-rt-us-washington-explosion-deathstre81f09a-20120215,0,2404953.story[/url]
I really don't know who to side with.
ehhhh, at this point what does it matter, if anything you are making the situation worse for the grandparents and other family
Hmm, on one hand denying him to be buried next to his sons is horrible. On the other, he did kill his own sons so I can see why they try their best to not have him buried next to them.
You can never know his motives so it's unfair to persecute him even after his death.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;34724579]You can never know his motives so it's unfair to persecute him even after his death.[/QUOTE]Yes because his motives would change the fact that he killed em. [editline]16th February 2012[/editline] Or maybe they were aliens months away from enslaving humanity!
He's dead, preventing him from being buried next to his children isn't gonna make anyone happier. All it's gonna do is give these angry people a sense of justice, and that's really petty if you ask me. It's incredibly egotistical of them to go in an actively do something against this, just so they can feel better about themselves. I get that he killed his children, but you're the ones harassing a dead guy.
[QUOTE=Lizzrd;34725027]Yes because his motives would change the fact that he killed em. [/QUOTE] No dipshit maybe he fell into depression? Maybe he felt that he couldn't carry on and didn't want his children to suffer knowing that their father killed himself. I'm not trying to justify what he did i'm saying that we simply don't know why he did it. He's dead, let him be.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;34724579]You can never know his motives so it's unfair to persecute him even after his death.[/QUOTE] Yes, maybe he had good reasons.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;34726423]Yes, maybe he had good reasons.[/QUOTE] Is killing someone, like his own children, justified by his reasons?
Hmm. I was planning to kill myself and my children, but knowing now that I'll be punished by not getting to be buried next to my dead kids, I've definitely been deterred from carrying out my plan.
This organisation has no business interfering with people's funerals or burials. What are they expecting to get out of this? They're just going "Yeah! Fuck you criminal scum!" instead of doing what they're supposed to, stopping and preventing crime, harassing the families of dead people is the WBC's job. [editline]16th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=TheDecryptor;34726423]Yes, maybe he had good reasons.[/QUOTE] Maybe he cracked up? No way of knowing now.
I see no reason why he can't be buried next to them. Hes dead. There dead. Why does it even make a different if he was buried next to them.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;34724579]You can never know his motives so it's unfair to persecute him even after his death.[/QUOTE] can you give me one good reason he could have had for killing both his kids? haha why are you even defending the guy [editline]16th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Neddy;34726548]I see no reason why he can't be buried next to them. Hes dead. There dead. Why does it even make a different if he was buried next to them.[/QUOTE] If my father murdered me I really wouldn't want to be buried next to him.
[QUOTE=Valdor;34726669]can you give me one good reason he could have had for killing both his kids? haha why are you even defending the guy [editline]16th February 2012[/editline] If my father murdered me I really wouldn't want to be buried next to him.[/QUOTE] you wouldnt want anything, youd be dead
[QUOTE=LCBADs;34726697]you wouldnt want anything, youd be dead[/QUOTE] And I can't care about how people see me after I'm gone from this world? Who exactly are you to even tell me what I would and would not want? I'd hate for people to see my grave marker and then see the terrible father that murdered my mother, brother, and me placed right next to it.
Considering the grandparents were the ones making the initial moves to block him from being buried there, I don't have an issue with this.
I don't think public officials should get involved in something like this. Something positive, like raising money for a family in need? Sure, as public officials, helping members of the public is something they should do. Something negative, like stepping in and stopping someone from doing something which is perfectly legal? No. Deciding who gets buried where and next to whom is not something the cops need to concern themselves with.
Why are they taking it like Powell would rise from the dead at night and mutilate the bodies of his children? What he has done is horrible,but what's the point of not letting his body be buried next to his children?
That seems pretty dumb to me. It seems quite childish more than anything
I would want to be buried next to my family no matter what one of them did and it's not like this is any of their business anyway
I'd say that it's up to the family, no one else has a say in it. The only people that are being effected by this would be the family and friends.
Crime stoppers are going to stop his zombie from doing further harm to his sons?
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;34728849]Crime stoppers are going to stop his zombie from doing further harm to his sons?[/QUOTE] He might try to set fire to the graveyard
[QUOTE=Sanius;34727657]I would want to be buried next to my family no matter what one of them did and it's not like this is any of their business anyway[/QUOTE] You'd want to be buried next to the man who killed you for virtually no reason? I know I personally wouldn't
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34730943]You'd want to be buried next to the man who killed you for virtually no reason? I know I personally wouldn't[/QUOTE] and I personally would to each his own
[QUOTE=Valdor;34726669]can you give me one good reason he could have had for killing both his kids? haha why are you even defending the guy [editline]16th February 2012[/editline] If my father murdered me I really wouldn't want to be buried next to him.[/QUOTE] I'm not defending the guy i'm saying that it's fucking stupid to persecute someone even in death and cause his family even more harm.
It's hard for me to even make sense of what would be the just choice but it would only make sense for them to be buried next to each other. It's not like it really harms anyone, they are under several feet of dirt for fucks sake.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34730943]You'd want to be buried next to the man who killed you for virtually no reason? I know I personally wouldn't[/QUOTE] I wouldn't mind. I mean i am dead it's not like it would affect me in any way. [editline]17th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Valdor;34726753]And I can't care about how people see me after I'm gone from this world? Who exactly are you to even tell me what I would and would not want? I'd hate for people to see my grave marker and then see the terrible father that murdered my mother, brother, and me placed right next to it.[/QUOTE] But can you justify why? Why would people think any less of you,if you'd be buried next to someone who killed you? It's simply nonsensical...
My last name is Powell... :tinfoil:
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