Bernie Sanders says he'll introduce 'Medicare for all' bill - Polidicks

[t]http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/03/160328_POL_Bernie.jpg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpg[/t] [quote] HARDWICK, Vt. (AP) — Members of Vermont's congressional delegation told hundreds of constituents at a rousing town hall meeting Saturday that the defeat of the Republican health plan was "a victory," with U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders telling the cheering crowd that he plans to introduce a "Medicare for all" bill soon. Democratic U.S. Rep. Peter Welch said he would introduce the same bill in the House of Representatives. "It wasn't just we defeated them," Sanders, an independent, said. "It was how we defeated them," with rallies around the country, town meetings and people standing up and fighting back. "No, we're not going to give $300 million in tax breaks to the top 2 percent and then throw 24 million Americans off of health insurance. Ain't gonna happen," Sanders said. Welch called the Republican health plan designed to replace the Obama-era health law known as the Affordable Care Act a tax cut bill masquerading as health care. "This health care bill was not the art of the deal. It was the art of the steal," he said. The packed town hall meeting in a school gymnasium was a way for residents to address the delegation all in one forum. "These are not normal times ... they're scary times," said Democratic U.S. Sen. Patrick Leahy. Some of the hundreds who attended asked the delegation questions about health care, immigration, education and how to continue to fight against the administration of President Donald Trump. The delegation encouraged Vermonters to continue to show up at rallies and voice their concerns. Sanders said he planned to visit red states around the country to educate the public about Trump's budget, which the delegation predicted would not pass Congress. "The president's budget is dead on arrival," said Leahy. [/quote] [URL="http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Vermont-delegation-holds-joint-meeting-in-Hardwick-11027365.php#photo-12612395"]SFGATE[/URL]

Now [I]this[/I] is how you repeal obamacare.

I respect and trust Sen. Sanders. All the same, I'd like to have a look at the contents of this "Medicare for all" bill before I develop an opinion.

Get it, Bern.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52012965]I respect and trust Sen. Sanders. All the same, I'd like to have a look at the contents of this "Medicare for all" bill before I develop an opinion.[/QUOTE] [url]https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Medicare-for-All.pdf[/url] quickest I could find from his primary run in 2016.

Show them the way, Foxy Grandpa

I'm sure it will demonstrate the highest respect for fiscal responsibility that the Sanders name has become so well known for.

[QUOTE=Chonch;52012996]I'm sure it will demonstrate the highest respect for fiscal responsibility that the Sanders name has become so well known for.[/QUOTE] I'm sure it will. It will also show the rest of the world that the United States isn't completely cold and heartless to the wills of its citizens.

Doesn't it seem like a good idea to get the current Medicare working before putting everyone on it?

Considering Republicare failed because it wasn't extreme [I]enough[/I], I wish him good luck.

[QUOTE=sgman91;52013010]Doesn't it seem like a good idea to get the current Medicare working before putting everyone on it?[/QUOTE] And your buddy Trump cutting Medicare is helping that? I honestly do not see why the idea of a single payer plan is so radical in the United States.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;52013011]Considering Republicare failed because it wasn't extreme [I]enough[/I], I wish him good luck.[/QUOTE] Republicans failed because it was a piece of shit bill fucking over everyone but the rich. [editline]26th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Llamaguy;52013021]And your buddy Trump cutting Medicare is helping that? I honestly do not see why the idea of a single payer plan is so radical in the United States.[/QUOTE] muh socialism!

[QUOTE=Llamaguy;52013021]And your buddy Trump cutting Medicare is helping that? I honestly do not see why the idea of a single payer plan is so radical in the United States.[/QUOTE] Whatever the reason. It's not like the republicans are going to disappear and let the democrats make everything work perfectly once everyone is on it. Why should anyone have faith that they'll make it work with everyone on it if they can't make it work now, even with total democrat control?

[QUOTE=sgman91;52013010]Doesn't it seem like a good idea to get the current Medicare working before putting everyone on it?[/QUOTE] Why do you think this bill is going to be introduced?

[QUOTE=sgman91;52013033]Whatever the reason. It's not like the republicans are going to disappear and let the democrats make everything work perfectly once everyone is on it.[/QUOTE] I'm sure the blue tsunami coming in 2018 and 2020 will assist with making that happen. Ryan admitted that they have no idea how to govern, and is simply a party of obstructionism.

[QUOTE=Llamaguy;52013021]And your buddy Trump cutting Medicare is helping that? I honestly do not see why the idea of a single payer plan is so radical in the United States.[/QUOTE] I don't think Trump is sgman's buddy.

[QUOTE=Llamaguy;52013021]And your buddy Trump cutting Medicare is helping that? I honestly do not see why the idea of a single payer plan is so radical in the United States.[/QUOTE] You'd think they'd all be on board when Bernie says it'll be a trillion dollars cheaper than Obummercare

[QUOTE=Llamaguy;52013038]I'm sure the blue tsunami coming in 2018 and 2020 will assist with making that happen. Ryan admitted that they have no idea how to govern, and is simply a party of obstructionism.[/QUOTE] Why would you think that would help? Democrats didn't do anything to fix Medicare's problems last time they were in control.

[QUOTE=sgman91;52013010]Doesn't it seem like a good idea to get the current Medicare working before putting everyone on it?[/QUOTE] It does well enough that some people forget that the government is actually responsible for it. No legislation will ever be perfect though and will always necessitate changes and tweaks to the system as time goes on.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52013043]It does well enough that some people forget that the government is actually responsible for it. No legislation will ever be perfect though and will always necessitate changes and tweaks to the system as time goes on.[/QUOTE] I mean, we don't just need a few tweaks here and there. Medicare is currently on the path to taking up the entire budget, and that's not even covering everyone. It's a fundamentally flawed program that can't exist into the future in its current state.

[QUOTE=CreeplyTuna;52013040]You'd think they'd all be on board when Bernie says it'll be a trillion dollars cheaper than Obummercare[/QUOTE] But it isn't fiscally beneficial to the interests that help elect republicans though.

[QUOTE=sgman91;52013047]I mean, we don't just need a few tweaks here and there. Medicare is currently on the path to taking up the entire budget, and that's not even covering everyone. It's a fundamentally flawed program that can't exist into the future in its current state.[/QUOTE] maybe the solution is to raise taxes then. or make healthcare cheaper, less profit driven

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52013053]maybe the solution is to raise taxes then[/QUOTE] Unthinkable! The rich would obviously just move out! Hurt jobs and destroy the economy! The Job creators need that money!

The GOP simply cannot beat the ACA. The infighting proves that, and their inability to come up with a better plan after 7 years even more so. The only way forward to improve the health care for millions of Americans is a single payer universal health care system.

[QUOTE=Llamaguy;52013021]And your buddy Trump cutting Medicare is helping that? I honestly do not see why the idea of a single payer plan is so radical in the United States.[/QUOTE] The idea of expanding Medicare to everyone is generally unpopular mostly for budgetary reasons, I think. Medicare payouts right now take up some 35%(?) of the annual federal budget. Given the quality of care already afforded to those in the system (what with being denied service by those who can't afford to treat them) it doesn't add up that we'd be able to give everyone that same service AND significantly improved the quality of care without some massive tax hikes. That's where the real problem lies, tax and spending. In my opinion, healthcare plans tend to offer a "pick two" of affordability, quality, or availability. This just doesn't seem like the right combination.

[QUOTE=Chonch;52013074]The idea of expanding Medicare to everyone is generally unpopular mostly for budgetary reasons, I think. Medicare payouts right now take up some 35%(?) of the annual federal budget. Given the quality of care already afforded to those in the system (what with being denied service by those who can't afford to treat them) it doesn't add up that we'd be able to give everyone that same service AND significantly improved the quality of care without some massive tax hikes. That's where the real problem lies, tax and spending. In my opinion, healthcare plans tend to offer a "pick two" of affordability, quality, or availability. This just doesn't seem like the right combination.[/QUOTE] Excellent, so do exactly what Bernie wanted to do with a progressive tax that would easily pay for it. Even if the "Medicare-for-all" isn't Medicare at its core (I bet Bernie is going with this name for familiarity). People want to see their tax dollars at work. This would be an excellent show of power.

[QUOTE=CreeplyTuna;52013040]You'd think they'd all be on board when Bernie says it'll be a trillion dollars cheaper than Obummercare[/QUOTE] Time has taught me to avoid trusting entirely the words of the politician using these kinds of sales tactics.

[QUOTE=sgman91;52013047]I mean, we don't just need a few tweaks here and there. Medicare is currently on the path to taking up the entire budget, and that's not even covering everyone. It's a fundamentally flawed program that can't exist into the future in its current state.[/QUOTE] Most of it's flaws are as far as I can tell not down to the healthcare system itself but legislation and policying regarding related things such as pharmaceutical and insurance companies.

[QUOTE=Chonch;52013074]The idea of expanding Medicare to everyone is generally unpopular mostly for budgetary reasons, I think. Medicare payouts right now take up some 35%(?) of the annual federal budget. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Medicare, Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace subsidies — together accounted for 25 percent of the budget in 2015, or $938 billion. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go[/url] You could at least try to look up the facts before spouting bullshit.

[QUOTE=Llamaguy;52013089]Excellent, so do exactly what Bernie wanted to do with a progressive tax that would easily pay for it. Even if the "Medicare-for-all" isn't Medicare at its core (I bet Bernie is going with this name for familiarity). People want to see their tax dollars at work. This would be an excellent show of power.[/QUOTE] What's a progressive tax plan to you? Will it be enough to make up for the cost of the new national insurance monopoly? [QUOTE=Propane Addict;52013100][url]http://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go[/url] You could at least try to look up the facts before spouting bullshit.[/QUOTE] When I'm on mobile, I do these things and use words like "think" and "?" because source options are not readily available to me. I appreciate you looking up the real figure. I guess a quarter of the budget isn't nearly as outrageous. Mercy me.