• UKIP MEP claims cutting carbon emmisions is "absolute madness", and will cause crops to die
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[URL]http://www.rtcc.org/2015/03/12/cutting-carbon-emissions-will-cause-crops-to-die-warn-ukip/[/URL] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viIkd4VyiKg[/media] Enjoy the absolutely stunned silence from the rest of the MEPs. Reminder that this video was uploaded to what appears to be an official UKIP channel and by extension assume it's an endorsement of this view.
The expression of pure disbelief at 0:21
I think he overestimates the amount required. [editline]13th March 2015[/editline] Also, yes plants do require some CO2, but we require clean air.
I found it very hard to understand the rebuttal made by that Italian guy. That might have been the translator though. He probably could have worded it more simply.
That must have been so embarrassing to think. He must be so embarrassed to do what he does, right?
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47317260]The expression of pure disbelief at 0:21[/QUOTE] The expression of deserving and rightly smug contempt at 0:33
[QUOTE=Chili Banan;47317269]I think he overestimates the amount required. [editline]13th March 2015[/editline] Also, yes plants do require some CO2, but we require clean air.[/QUOTE] Air with carbon dioxide isn't neccessarily dirty.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;47317376]Air with carbon dioxide isn't neccessarily dirty.[/QUOTE] Nah but too much is not as good for you as air with natural levels, is what I meant.
And how, Mr EU Beaurocrat, do you explain the blue sky? People say it is reflected off the sea but I'm told that is reflected off the sky. It makes no sense! I've also been told that putting sugar in water makes it vanish. Why do you keep propagating this economic madness?
What, this was posted on an official UKIP youtube channel.
I always find it confusing when Ukip seem proud of their own ignorance. However what's disturbing is that it happens often enough for it to be regular thing.
Looks like UKIP is losing another MEP...
Plants existed long before humans could even think about messing up our environment. Did this guy skip the first grade?
People are fucking morons for ignoring the scientific consensus on climate change. A scientific consensus, especially the one on climate change is pretty much always going to be true. The fact that climate change is being caused primarily by humans has been vetted many times but somehow people still manage to believe that we aren't causing it or that it isn't happening. In this day and age ignorance is a choice and people are still choosing ignorance.
[QUOTE=mecaguy03;47317557]A scientific consensus, especially the one on climate change is pretty much always going to be true.[/QUOTE] The really isn't the case. Scientific consensus has been wrong many, many times. That's how ideas grow and evolve into more accurate ones. Now, climatologists are the most informed people on the planet about how the global climate works, so people pretending like they know better than the scientific community about the climate when they don't have the scientific evidence to support their ideas or even qualifications to understand them is completely stupid.
I guess what I meant to say is that specifically with the consensus on climate change, we are pretty sure.
We're paying our MEPs 8000€ monthly, plus 9000€ in allowances (including an optional daily 300€ bonus if they manage to show up at the parliament). Money well spent. These people are supposed to make life better for us.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;47317249][URL]http://www.rtcc.org/2015/03/12/cutting-carbon-emissions-will-cause-crops-to-die-warn-ukip/[/URL] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viIkd4VyiKg[/media] Enjoy the absolutely stunned silence from the rest of the MEPs. Reminder that this video was uploaded to what appears to be an official UKIP channel and by extension assume it's an endorsement of this view.[/QUOTE] I can't help but think how much more often such ludicrous sentiments crop up in the US government.
And this kind of person influences what happens in an entire country? I can't wait for the day when someone suggests that you have to have a science background relating to a topic you are discussing when it comes to changing laws.
It's scary how some of the people we elect into power are so so fucking dense
[QUOTE=James xX;47318969]And this kind of person influences what happens in an entire country? I can't wait for the day when someone suggests that you have to have a science background relating to a topic you are discussing when it comes to changing laws.[/QUOTE] Naw dude this guy is an MEP, he has an effect on what happens in the whole of Europe.
Douglas Carswell (UKIP MP) came to speak at my University and claimed rising sea levels have nothing to do with carbon emissions, justifying why UKIP wants to decrease spending on renewable energy but increase spending on fossil fuels and sea defenses. He then went on to explain how he used to believe in global warming because the school system forced it on him, and he has since thought about it critically and changed his mind. (cont. rant on school brain washing and global warming not existing) Crowd laughed at him.
This man came to my school a month or so back for a debate with the Lib Dem Sandy Walkington. He made just about as much sense then as he does here so I can't say I'm at all surprised - he knew no figures, no ukip policies, spent most of his time talking about his childhood, and dodged any questions like no tomorrow.
[QUOTE=BarnacleDrive;47320859]Douglas Carswell (UKIP MP) came to speak at my University and claimed rising sea levels have nothing to do with carbon emissions, justifying why UKIP wants to decrease spending on renewable energy but increase spending on fossil fuels and sea defenses. He then went on to explain how he used to believe in global warming because the school system forced it on him, and he has since thought about it critically and changed his mind. (cont. rant on school brain washing and global warming not existing) Crowd laughed at him.[/QUOTE] Douglas Carswell was the Tory MP for my old area, he's always been a tit but changing over to UKIP seems to have driven him completely off the deep end
I'm surprised the Italian MP politely disagreed with such a bewildering statement. It's kind of ironic seeing a British politician yell "madness!" while an Italian one replies in a soft-spoken voice. :v:
Why the fuck do we let people with no fucking understanding of the natural world around them have a say on these matters? I don't mean in the UK, I mean around the world. I don't expect every politician to have a perfect grasp on every field of science, but at least ask someone who actually knows how the environment works instead of spouting unfounded bullshit. The world would be quite a bit better if people just listened to the other people that have dedicated their lives to understanding what's happening around us.
Isn't this the same logic as oil makes the desert fertile? (As promoted by the ladybird series of books in like the 1950s)
[QUOTE=Jsm;47322165]Isn't this the same logic as oil makes the desert fertile? (As promoted by the ladybird series of books in like the 1950s)[/QUOTE] Well technically he's right, more CO2 is good for plants, they grow really well in carbon rich environments, unfortunately that by the time the CO2 was having an effect on the actual size of the plants we'd probably be cooking the planet even faster. Also we'd probably all be dead.
How? How was the entire room not roaring with laughter?
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47322413]How? How was the entire room not roaring with laughter?[/QUOTE] I honestly think they were too dumbfounded.
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