Australian Federal Police: We Could Use Metadata To Prosecute Pirates - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Worried that your metadata could be used to prosecute you in a piracy case? You should be: the Australian Federal Police Commissioner thinks that metadata could be very helpful to prosecute pirates. [B]Updated with comments from Attorney General George Brandis.[/B] When asked if stored metadata could be used to combat piracy, Australian Federal Police Commissioner, Andrew Colvin, replied at a press conference that the stored data of Australians could be used for a whole number of things, including anti-piracy: “Absolutely. Any interface or connection someone has over the internet, we need to be able to identify the parties to that collection. Illegal downloads, piracy, cyber crimes, cyber security. Our ability to investigate them is pinned to the ability to retrieve metadata,” Colvin told journalists. In the context of the upcoming crackdown on piracy, Malcolm Turnbull quickly qualified the statement saying rights holders probably wouldn’t be interested in getting access to metadata. Simply put, Turnbull said, rights holders already have mechanisms with which to identify and pursue those engaging in illegal file sharing: “A lot of internet piracy, downloading and sharing material is done by way of file-sharing, but the way that works is a torrent stream is created in which there are a whole number of computers with their own IPs that are sharing this pirated content. What the rights owners do is they use different programs to participate in the swarm and identify the IP addresses of the computers infringing copyright, and then they seek from the ISPs via subpoena the account details of the holder. They do this pretty much in real-time so the two year holding of data doesn’t make a big difference in terms of copyright infringement, they’re dealing with the here and now. The police commissioners interests tend to be much longer. It is relevant and it happens all the time.” [B]Update (5:30pm): Attorney General George Brandis has also distanced himself from the comments of the AFP Commissioner, saying that data retention won’t be used to prosecute pirates.[/B] [QUOTE][URL="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brandis?src=hash"]#Brandis[/URL] on possible illegal download prosecution: "There is no relationship between internet piracy issue and data retention." — ABC Radio Melbourne (@774melbourne) [URL="https://twitter.com/774melbourne/status/527708332350390272"]October 30, 2014[/URL][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Brandis: Colvin misunderstood when speaking about piracy. Copyright infringement is a civil wrong. Concerned about law enforcement. — Leanne O'Donnell (@MsLods) [URL="https://twitter.com/MsLods/status/527707855915208704"]October 30, 2014[/URL][/QUOTE][/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/10/australian-federal-police-we-could-use-metadata-to-prosecute-pirates/"]http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/10/australian-federal-police-we-could-use-metadata-to-prosecute-pirates/[/URL]

Prosecute pirates, and cut us off from our only source of entertainment. Seriously, it's ridiculously hard to get anything here, and what you can get costs 2x as much as everywhere else on earth.

[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;46366780]Prosecute pirates, and cut us off from our only source of entertainment. Seriously, it's ridiculously hard to get anything here, and what you can get costs 2x as much as everywhere else on earth.[/QUOTE] We don't have Netflix or Hulu and then they complain when we download it instead.

Honestly I'm glad I primarily play games because steam is a godsend. I haven't pirated a game in like 8 years. As soon as someone makes a good platform for entertainment I'll gladly use it.

They say this now, but it's only a matter of time before they do act on it. We should be very worried and aware about this.

now Australia is back to being a prison nation...

[QUOTE=darkedone02;46366864]now Australia is back to being a prison nation...[/QUOTE] Back to??

To the era of VPNs has come for Australia.

[video=youtube;4zdNhhXIYMU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zdNhhXIYMU[/video] these muppets

"Update (5:30pm): Attorney General George Brandis has also distanced himself from the comments of the AFP Commissioner, saying that data retention won’t be used to prosecute pirates." What does this mean.

I fucking told mum this evening the metadata thing would not be used solely for terrorist I hope it doesn't pass, because if it does phone and Internet charges hike up again which is going to be fucking lovely since we're already paying too much

[QUOTE=Xonax;46366943]"Update (5:30pm): Attorney General George Brandis has also distanced himself from the comments of the AFP Commissioner, saying that data retention won’t be used to prosecute pirates." What does this mean.[/QUOTE] I think it means they won't be saying the ISP give us all your (historic?) data, then sifting through to find pirates. More that they will find a suspected pirate then use the data to build a case against them. [editline]30th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=fruxodaily;46366982]I fucking told mum this evening the metadata thing would not be used solely for terrorist I hope it doesn't pass, because if it does phone and Internet charges hike up again which is going to be fucking lovely since we're already paying too much[/QUOTE] Good to see competition is keeping prices down and service consumer friendly. Are there no austrialian start ups to provide reasonable internet and services?

[QUOTE=Xonax;46366943]"Update (5:30pm): Attorney General George Brandis has also distanced himself from the comments of the AFP Commissioner, saying that data retention won’t be used to prosecute pirates." What does this mean.[/QUOTE] It means that it is likely that the AFP Chief is well versed in the future of the current Government's plans by introducing new laws which make minor copyright infringement (i.e. not commercial quantities) a criminal offence.

[QUOTE=Boilrig;46366883]To the era of VPNs has come for Australia.[/QUOTE] I've been using PIA for nearly a year. I have no regrets, and I definitely recommend it. It's $40 a year and up to 5 devices can be used for the same account... running at the same time.

[QUOTE=RusselG;46366882]Back to??[/QUOTE] Y'know, when the Brits used us for convicts/criminals?

[QUOTE=TechnoS;46367229]Y'know, when the Brits used us for convicts/criminals?[/QUOTE] Crickey mate, are you okay? That arrow almost hit you!

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46366986] Good to see competition is keeping prices down and service consumer friendly. Are there no austrialian start ups to provide reasonable internet and services?[/QUOTE] You run an incredibly high risk to go with smaller telcos because 1. While they claim they give you unlimited for $29.95/m they forget to tell you that you're capped to atrocious speeds (this happened to us where we were on an unlimited deal that capped us to 56kb/s, finally moved off in 2012) 2. The everlasting threat that Telstra or Optus could pull the plug if they felt the need to 3. The threat that their is no ports left in your local exchange to do such a move Honestly the only good deals you can get is where you move inner city or in a suburb that has facilities for other ISP's besides telstra, when you're like me living 10 minutes away from the CBD you're only given one choice Telstra

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46367443]You run an incredibly high risk to go with smaller telcos because 1. While they claim they give you unlimited for $29.95/m they forget to tell you that you're capped to atrocious speeds (this happened to us where we were on an unlimited deal that capped us to 56kb/s, finally moved off in 2012) 2. The everlasting threat that Telstra or Optus could pull the plug if they felt the need to 3. The threat that their is no ports left in your local exchange to do such a move Honestly the only good deals you can get is where you move inner city or in a suburb that has facilities for other ISP's besides telstra, when you're like me living 10 minutes away from the CBD you're only given one choice Telstra[/QUOTE] Thats absolutely terrible. Literally over the barrel...

[QUOTE=TechnoS;46367229]Y'know, when the Brits used us for convicts/criminals?[/QUOTE] I meant "Back to??" as in we never changed.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46367443]You run an incredibly high risk to go with smaller telcos because 1. While they claim they give you unlimited for $29.95/m they forget to tell you that you're capped to atrocious speeds (this happened to us where we were on an unlimited deal that capped us to 56kb/s, finally moved off in 2012) 2. The everlasting threat that Telstra or Optus could pull the plug if they felt the need to 3. The threat that their is no ports left in your local exchange to do such a move Honestly the only good deals you can get is where you move inner city or in a suburb that has facilities for other ISP's besides telstra, when you're like me living 10 minutes away from the CBD you're only given one choice Telstra[/QUOTE] I think the bigger risk is shitty customer service and having to deal with people who don't give a shit. They get away with it because most charge you a ridiculous upfront fee if you go contract-less, so that you have to get a 12 month or even a 24 month contract. How is it you only get one choice of ISP? Aren't Telstra required to rent out their lines everywhere? Eg my place is connected to a Telstra exchange and network, but I'm with a different ISP. My ISP pays rent at wholesale price to Telstra for letting me use their lines. As it works with every ISP providing offnet services.

[QUOTE=Antdawg;46368018]I think the bigger risk is shitty customer service and having to deal with people who don't give a shit. They get away with it because most charge you a ridiculous upfront fee if you go contract-less, so that you have to get a 12 month or even a 24 month contract. How is it you only get one choice of ISP? Aren't Telstra required to rent out their lines everywhere? Eg my place is connected to a Telstra exchange and network, but I'm with a different ISP. My ISP pays rent at wholesale price to Telstra for letting me use their lines. As it works with every ISP providing offnet services.[/QUOTE] I think it's because Ipswich is too ghetto for other ISPs to do business there.

[QUOTE=Antdawg;46368018]I think the bigger risk is shitty customer service and having to deal with people who don't give a shit. They get away with it because most charge you a ridiculous upfront fee if you go contract-less, so that you have to get a 12 month or even a 24 month contract. How is it you only get one choice of ISP? Aren't Telstra required to rent out their lines everywhere? Eg my place is connected to a Telstra exchange and network, but I'm with a different ISP. My ISP pays rent at wholesale price to Telstra for letting me use their lines. As it works with every ISP providing offnet services.[/QUOTE] iiNet, Optus, TPG, Internode and anything else don't either service my area or provide out the ass, fucking apeshit ridiculous plans that are far too costly My family prefers telstra cause of how cheap they get Foxtel on our current plan, + we do run the extreme risk of being without internet if no ports are available [editline]30th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Zet;46368054]I think it's because Ipswich is too ghetto for other ISPs to do business there.[/QUOTE] Actually, Ipswich and most suburbs do get on-net plans with most telco's, it just so happens that where I live gets the gobbled up vomited shit In fact the suburb up the road from me gets Optus, and somehow the cut off point happens to be my exchange Do I just love this place

Them darn internet criminals, causing a world crisis! It's almost like they just want to target something that might be easier and net more money for them, instead of tackling harder things that exist in Aussie land.

Fuck you tones