Calls for UK to rejoin EU 'should be treason', urges Tory petition - Polidicks

[QUOTE]A Conservative councillor from Surrey has launched a petition calling for Victorian-era legislation to be amended to make supporting UK membership of the EU a treasonable offence. Get Surrey is reporting that he has been suspendedas a result, citing tweets by a fellow Conservative councillor.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]It is becoming clear that many politicians and others are unwilling to accept the democratic decision of the British people to leave the EU. Brexit must not be put at risk in the years and decades ahead. For this reason we the undersigned request that the Treason Felony Act be amended as set out in this petition.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/17/call-to-keep-uk-in-eu-should-be-treason-urges-tory-councillors-petition[/url]

[quote=Idiot MP]It is becoming clear that many politicians and others are unwilling to accept the democratic decision of the British people"[/quote] [quote=Idiot MP]democratic[/quote] You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means

If you ask me they should be trying the people who voted to leave the EU for treason.

This guy should resign. That's fucking insane and anyone saying it isn't fit to hold a post in government.

[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;51216006]You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means[/QUOTE] Why would you say that?

[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;51216006]You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means[/QUOTE] Why? it was democratically decided... i think there is a possibility you do not know what it means, and you are thinking about a republic.

[QUOTE=plunger435;51216103]Why would you say that?[/QUOTE] Democracy doesn't mean that once people vote for something it can never be criticised or reversed ever again. If we were to go by that logic since we voted ourselves into the EU he's going against the democratic will of the people in the 1970's.

[QUOTE=plunger435;51216103]Why would you say that?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Blizzerd;51216138]Why? it was democratically decided... i think there is a possibility you do not know what it means, and you are thinking about a republic.[/QUOTE] Because it's a democracy and you can disagree with the popular vote

Treason? What madness is this?

If they punish treason by exiling me to live in the EU I'll take it.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;51216145]Democracy doesn't mean that once people vote for something it can never be criticised or reversed ever again. If we were to go by that logic since we voted ourselves into the EU he's going against the democratic will of the people in the 1970's.[/QUOTE] Yes, but that does not make the brexit election "not democratic"... [editline]17th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=ScottyWired;51216149]Because it's a democracy and you can disagree with the popular vote[/QUOTE] see answer above

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51216175]Yes, but that does not make the brexit election "not democratic"... [editline]17th October 2016[/editline] see answer above[/QUOTE] No, following his logic, it does in fact make the Brexit undemocratic. He's trying to coerce people into making a decision against what the people voted for in the 70s. How is that democratic?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;51216145]Democracy doesn't mean that once people vote for something it can never be criticised or reversed ever again. If we were to go by that logic since we voted ourselves into the EU he's going against the democratic will of the people in the 1970's.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Anti Christ;51216191]No, following his logic, it does in fact make the Brexit undemocratic. He's trying to coerce people into making a decision against what the people voted for in the 70s. How is that democratic?[/QUOTE] If you guys are going to get pedantic: we didn't actually vote to join the European Union, we voted to join the Common Market (something that is rather different to the EU). When the Common Market turned into the EU we didn't have a say on it even though Tony Blair promised a referendum. The position expressed in the 1975 referendum is actually equivalent to a 'soft brexit' - membership of the Single Market but not the wider EU.

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51216175]Yes, but that does not make the brexit election "not democratic"... [editline]17th October 2016[/editline] see answer above[/QUOTE] People voted for "brexit" for a whole load of different reasons. Many were told we would be better off, we're not. We we're told 350m weekly to the nhs, its not and the cost of brexit is far more than that. The pound is down. Turkey wasn't going to join the EU and we held veto over the EU army. People voted against globalisation and we're getting more of it. At least those who voted to stop immigration [b]might[/b] get their way but at what costs? People bark about "DEMOCURCACY HAS SPOKEN! SHUT THE FUCK UP STOP BEING @UNDOMCRACTIC!" yet in the same breath deny parliament, the elected representatives for the country, have any say in the negotiation. There may be a mandate to leave the EU, a very small mandate less than 52% but its not a mandate to be more free market and its not a mandate to push our economy into oblivion. [sp] before anyone starts screeching and carping about "the pound was over valued anyway dis is gud fing politican and a retired guy told me so" or "but its good for exports so its a good thing and economy is better! whats a trade deficit? huh" pllllleeeeeaaaassssseeee look at what you are saying and accept that you made a mistake. All the brexiteers saying "liberal elites" are themselves both liberal (free trade and globalisation) and elite (super rich)[/sp] All this shit about "bremoaners" or "bad losers" or "treason" is just to try and shut down anybody who wants to talk sense or negotiate a brexit which is beneficial to the majority rather than a very small minority. If we have free trade with the world we will either be out competed and lose many many jobs or we'll have to participate in a race to the bottom where working conditions and pay get worse so we can compete with places like India. [editline]17th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Mythman;51216219]If you guys are going to get pedantic: we didn't actually vote to join the European Union, we voted to join the Common Market (something that is rather different to the EU). When the Common Market turned into the EU we didn't have a say on it even though Tony Blair promised a referendum. The position expressed in the 1975 referendum is actually equivalent to a 'soft brexit' - membership of the Single Market but not the wider EU.[/QUOTE] Soft brexit with membership of single market would imply EU regulations and free movement. Stuff that will make certain people wide eyed and foamy mouthed.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51216249] Soft brexit with membership of single market would imply EU regulations and free movement. Stuff that will make certain people wide eyed and foamy mouthed.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately that is true now - we would have to accept EU regulations and free movement. But in 1975, there was no link between free movement of people and the Single Market - that only came in with the Schengen agreement in 1995 and the concept of 'EU citizenship'. The Common Market was just a big trading agreement - there was no EU courts, EU regulations or talk of an EU army. I'm sure a lot of people want to go back to the original 'Common Market' relationship but the EU has tied it to immigration which is why it has become so messy.

[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;51216006]You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means[/QUOTE] I really hate when Brexit is called a "decision of the British people" as if we all unanimously decided to leave the EU it wasn't actually a 52%/48% split at all

[QUOTE=IAreLegend;51216304]I really hate when Brexit is called a "decision of the British people" as if we all unanimously decided to leave the EU it wasn't actually a 52%/48% split at all[/QUOTE] It's still the 'decision of the British people', just because it is a close one doesn't mean that you can rule it out. If me and my mates are deciding where to go on a night out - a 3 to 2 decision to go to the pub is still our group decision. EDIT: Also, the difference between Remain and Leave looks small in percentage terms but it is worth remembering that the actual difference is ~ 1.3 million people (17,410,742 v 16,141,241)

Councillors say stupid shit all of the time, like the number of Labour councillors have been suspended for saying anti-semetic stuff. Why is this news?

[QUOTE=Mythman;51216314]It's still the 'decision of the British people', just because it is a close one doesn't mean that you can rule it out. If me and my mates are deciding where to go on a night out - a 3 to 2 decision to go to the pub is still our group decision.[/QUOTE] If me and my 10 other mates are deciding on a night out. 6 say metal music bar 5 say not metal music bar. Then 2 of those 6 decide the entire group of 11 go to a black death metal screamo bar which noboby wants to go to which sells a beer nobody wants to drink then start shouting at anyone who wants to disagree. 3 of the 6 are too drunk to think so agree vocally with the 2 without understanding whats being said. they just shout "bremoaner!" and "TREEEEASSSSONNNN!!!" For more accuracy add in a few more people who didn't vote either way have the 2 refuse to tell anyone else where exactly they are being lead to and have them argue amongst themselves on whether or not the group is allowed to dance.

[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;51216006]You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means[/QUOTE]To be fair, it does fit the definition. A majority of those that voted chose to leave. That being said, amending the Treason Felony Act to encompass people against Brexit is not only phenomenally retarded, but anti-democratic and anti-free speech.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51216349]To be fair, it does fit the definition. A majority of those that voted chose to leave. That being said, amending the Treason Felony Act to encompass people against Brexit is not only phenomenally retarded, but anti-democratic and anti-free speech.[/QUOTE] The guy who suggested this is clearly an idiot/ thought he was being funny but really wasn't. The Conservative Party have disowned him and he's been suspended: [media]https://twitter.com/PaulKGB/status/788000120591777792[/media]

I'm feeling some good clean treason today [url]http://www.clickhole.com/clickventure/youre-benedict-arnold-do-you-have-what-it-takes-be-4143#1[/url],

[quote]Get Surrey is reporting that he has been suspendedas a result, citing tweets by a fellow Conservative councillor.[/quote] Ha, nice.

[QUOTE=Mythman;51216314]It's still the 'decision of the British people', just because it is a close one doesn't mean that you can rule it out. If me and my mates are deciding where to go on a night out - a 3 to 2 decision to go to the pub is still our group decision. EDIT: Also, the difference between Remain and Leave looks small in percentage terms but it is worth remembering that the actual difference is ~ 1.3 million people (17,410,742 v 16,141,241)[/QUOTE] If someone said "oh yeah this pub is really cheap and they do all your favourite cocktails and the barmaid is a smoking hot piece of crumpet but also the other options are literally going to let MUSLIMS RUIN YOUR PETUNIAS" would you not, when presented with a grotty little burger bar called [I]The Shit over the Cowshed[/I], want to go somewhere else?

[QUOTE=Mythman;51216314]It's still the 'decision of the British people', just because it is a close one doesn't mean that you can rule it out. If me and my mates are deciding where to go on a night out - a 3 to 2 decision to go to the pub is still our group decision. EDIT: Also, the difference between Remain and Leave looks small in percentage terms but it is worth remembering that the actual difference is ~ 1.3 million people (17,410,742 v 16,141,241)[/QUOTE] A retarded decision that the other side wasn't even sure would take place when the polls where introduced. A decision that was based off of a pack of lies spread by the few to influence the many for the sake of political gain. This was also something that should never have been put to a referendum in the first place, and in my opinion panderers like Michael "we've had enough of experts" Gove have no place whatsoever in the political process, because they encourage stupidity and feelings before facts, and using dirty tactics, instead of playing fair, not that politics has ever encouraged that, but the average individual expects fair play as a matter of course.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51216346]If me and my 10 other mates are deciding on a night out. 6 say metal music bar 5 say not metal music bar. Then 2 of those 6 decide the entire group of 11 go to a black death metal screamo bar which noboby wants to go to which sells a beer nobody wants to drink then start shouting at anyone who wants to disagree. 3 of the 6 are too drunk to think so agree vocally with the 2 without understanding whats being said. they just shout "bremoaner!" and "TREEEEASSSSONNNN!!!" For more accuracy add in a few more people who didn't vote either way have the 2 refuse to tell anyone else where exactly they are being lead to and have them argue amongst themselves on whether or not the group is allowed to dance.[/QUOTE] Not to mention about %20 of the populace did not vote, so one of your friends didn't speak up when people voted.

Gee, I feel like we should stick with the EU and not rock the damn boat. By this knobber's logic, this statement would be on par with making death threats against the Queen (a poor decision to make against anyone, not just the Queen). Good job his logic is so full of holes that you could use it as a musical instrument.

two men sit in a prison cell, one says to the other: "What're you in for?" the other man replies "Murdering my children, you?" "I voted Remain" "You sick bastard"

If those who want to leave [i][b]REALLY[/b][/i] cared about democracy they wouldn't mind another revote now more people understand what they were voting for. After all, a vote is [b]the will of the people[/b] If people change their mind, it should be taken into account.

I've noticed that a large proportion of the Brexiters seem to have a "we won and you lost - get over it" mentality. It's disturbing how many people view this as a game.