Well of course a cheap pad can help you make professional art, I thought that was a well known thing, just that newer stuff tends to be more responsive.
But the biggest thing to do professional art on a tablet is to be [I]good at art[/I] in the first place, really.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52019737]Well of course a cheap pad can help you make professional art, I thought that was a well known thing, just that newer stuff tends to be more responsive.
But the biggest thing to do professional art on a tablet is to be [I]good at art[/I] in the first place, really.[/QUOTE]
I think it's a deal where it's like, it should be obvious, but it isn't, at least subconsciously so, to a lot of people. I had similar fears when I got my tablet, particularly due to the fact that it was a pad tablet and didn't have a screen which seemed like the most insanely hard thing in the world. (which it isn't)
For me the video was very reassuring. I guess I personally also worried about there being like, a skill ceiling that I couldn't breach with the tablet I had once I got there.
You can make great art with ANYTHING. Tools don't make art, people do.
I'm using a serial connection tablet from 1996; tried a new wacom and couldn't help but thick what the flying fuck is this.
I do have to use a custom driver to get it working on windows 10, I don't even know what the brand is just "SerialTablet".
I think you eventually get used to pretty much any drawing tablet. Hell i made some pretty awesome art on my first generation iPad
Better tools make art easier. You remove the entire step of learning to detach your point of view from your hand if you buy a Cintiq instead of an Intuos, you can get a more stable performance and need less tuning with a more expensive guitar, you can do this with a vegetable but you probably wouldn't want to:
[img]https://monkeysatkeyboards.com/sites/default/files/Asparagus.gif[/img]
Expensive tools are all about making it easier to [I]do art[/I] but it doesn't mean more expensive tools do the art for you.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;52019847]Better tools make art easier. You remove the entire step of learning to detach your point of view from your hand if you buy a Cintiq instead of an Intuos, you can get a more stable performance and need less tuning with a more expensive guitar, you can do this with a vegetable but you probably wouldn't want to:
[img]https://monkeysatkeyboards.com/sites/default/files/Asparagus.gif[/img]
Expensive tools are all about making it easier to [I]do art[/I] but it doesn't mean more expensive tools do the art for you.[/QUOTE]
What about broccoli?
I always recommend just going for the cheapest (and smallest) wacoms (or even monoprice tablets) if you're just starting out with digital art, even if you're great in traditional. Learning to detatch your view is weird and it's easier to get used to it when you have a much smaller area to work with.
I [I]still [/I]don't like using my intuos 5 large on a single screen, though it was very useful for spanning a multi-screen setup
I just doodle with pencil and paper. :s:
Tablets seem so alien that I can't get the feel of shading correctly like when I do with a known dull or sharp #2.
[QUOTE=dai;52019861]I always recommend just going for the cheapest (and smallest) wacoms (or even monoprice tablets) if you're just starting out with digital art, even if you're great in traditional. Learning to detatch your view is weird and it's easier to get used to it when you have a much smaller area to work with.
I [I]still [/I]don't like using my intuos 5 large on a single screen, though it was very useful for spanning a multi-screen setup[/QUOTE]
I actually found it really easy to adapt to using a pad.
Maybe it's because I've been able to type without looking at my keyboard since I was like, 8, so I have a lot of practice doing a physical task without looking at it?
It's really not as hard as it seems, for me anyway.
[QUOTE=Ott;52019855]What about broccoli?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ott;52019855]What about broccoli?[/QUOTE]
well it's less ergonomic
[IMG]https://monkeysatkeyboards.com/sites/default/files/Broccoli.gif[/IMG]
Back when we had the MS Paint forum we had this one user doing amazing work with not a tablet, not a moue, but a [I]trackball[/I].
I agree with the sentiment but actually looking at what you're doing makes an huge difference for me, one of the most noticeable things is when you are doing things that require precision such as line art. (I used a cheap tablet for years before buying a cintiq)
However, good art can be made with anything, it's mostly a matter of comfort and effort required.
[QUOTE=shadowboy303;52019774]I'm using a serial connection tablet from 1996; tried a new wacom and couldn't help but thick what the flying fuck is this.
I do have to use a custom driver to get it working on windows 10, I don't even know what the brand is just "SerialTablet".[/QUOTE]
Show pics of it?
[QUOTE=Stormlight;52022796]I agree with the sentiment but actually looking at what you're doing makes an huge difference for me, one of the most noticeable things is when you are doing things that require precision such as line art. (I used a cheap tablet for years before buying a cintiq)
However, good art can be made with anything, it's mostly a matter of comfort and effort required.[/QUOTE]
I mean, shit, people are able to do stuff like this with fucking MS Paint. Beyond a point, tools, primitive or advanced, are meaningless in the face of sheer, unadulterated talent and force of will.
[video=youtube;v2g5qbvb7F4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2g5qbvb7F4[/video]
[QUOTE=Booker K;52019845]You can make art professionally with a cheap tablet, yes. That is if you're using products such as Wacom. However, you wouldn't get very far with cheap knock-offs you can buy on Amazon such as Turcom. Speaking from experience, I've previously owned a Turcom and it wasn't compatible with Photoshop at all, more of a tablet used for programs like Gimp, so I saved up for an Intuos Pro a couple years back.[/QUOTE]
really? I've used plenty of knockoff tablets and I have a friend who used a turcom, getting it to work with photoshop or any wacom-compatible software has never been a problem at all
still wouldn't recommend anyone buy a knockoff though, they all have shitty drivers in general
I worked with the cheapest bamboo for the longest time. You really don't need a good tablet to make good art. Somebody who works hard to create with a shitty tablet will always better than somebody just buying expensive stuff and not practicing.
Also if you're really serious about art, I wouldn'5 follow Jazza you'all get much more of an educational experience from
CTRL+Paint AND Proko
Not to knock on Jazza... seems like a great guy but he's not the best artist.
[QUOTE=omarfr;52024246]Not to knock on Jazza... seems like a great guy but he's not the best artist.[/QUOTE]
That's kinda the thing, he comes off as a very likable person but his art all looks like something from the front of a store-brand cereal box
I don't know who this is but I think as an example of "PROFESSIONAL ART" that was pretty terrible. He makes a fine point on not needing to invest tons of money but the follow up example would never pass in any studio or anywhere past a hobbyist's commission.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;52020345]well it's less ergonomic
[IMG]https://monkeysatkeyboards.com/sites/default/files/Broccoli.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
But how does Cauliflower stack up to broccoli??
[QUOTE=omarfr;52024246]I worked with the cheapest bamboo for the longest time. You really don't need a good tablet to make good art. Somebody who works hard to create with a shitty tablet will always better than somebody just buying expensive stuff and not practicing.
Also if you're really serious about art, I wouldn'5 follow Jazza you'all get much more of an educational experience from
CTRL+Paint AND Proko
Not to knock on Jazza... seems like a great guy but he's not the best artist.[/QUOTE]
i've been subscribed to proko for like 2 years now. when i subscribed i intended to learn how to draw.
i still haven't watch a single one of his videos since, however if i was serious about learning to draw, i would be watching all his videos.
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