Remi's Christmas detox thread - Help me through detox! - General

Hello DD. Ever since the creation of the Drug Discussion forum on FP, I've been trying to be a somewhat good contributor here. I don't know if any of you actually know me, or have talked to me, but I have a favor to ask of all of you. Christmas is coming up next week. Now, Christmas time for me has always been something special. Too me, it's that peaceful time of the year where my closest family gather under one house to celebrate together, and we try to keep the fighting and drama in the house to a minimum. Now, I'm 18 years old, and I'm getting more and more ready to move out. I've decided that I do not want to spend this Christmas in a drug haze. Confession time. To be honest, I do not remember the last time I spent a full day sober. Weed, hash, opiates/opioids, benzodiazepines, (today: Rohypnol and Ketobemidone, a very addictive and powerful opioid), whatever, it's been a while. My grades at school are basically... not worth mentioning, and my relationship with my family has deteriorated a lot. I'm hoping to get my drivers license soon, but I've basically been too drugged up most of the time too actually drive a car. Basically, I've been a bad student, a bad son, and a bad boyfriend. I have prioritized getting stoned more than most other things in the past months. I haven't visited my best friends since they moved a month ago, because I can spend up to $300 a week on drugs, so I haven't been able to afford the train ticket, and besides, I've been too busy being stoned. I feel terrible about it. One of my best friends knew that I've been having some money issues, so he gave me some money so that I could buy my boyfriend something nice for Christmas. I promised myself I wouldn't use that money on drugs, but I did anyways. Now, I'm going to need some motivational help from you guys. I do not want to involve my parents, my friends or my boyfriend in to this. I don't think I deserve their assistance after all the stupid shit I've done towards them, so if you'd be so kind, please lend me a few a few motivational words. So, here's the deal. I have enough painkillers to last me 'till about Sunday I guess. But I'm making this thread today, because I dunno if I'll have the motivation then. Until Sunday, I'm gonna need to have some help building motivation, and after Sunday, I'm gonna need a place to vent. Kinda like keeping a log, or something. Now, after this I'm probably not going to stop smoking weed, and I might enjoy a couple of bowls during the holiday season. Then again, I don't see weed as a bad thing at all in moderate use. I hope it's OK for you guys that I make this thread, and that you don't see this as a waste of space. I hope this thread doesn't die before Sunday, because I'm gonna need the motivation! On a different note, if some of the stuff I write here doesn't make sense, I'm writing this in a haze. So, will you help me?

I'm with you on that. Christmas is a holy time for me, and I've made a resolution to not do drugs [I]of any kind[/I] during the 2 week break we get. I may not be in the same situation as you, but I'm with you on this! Hopefully this will help you be motivated to stop.

We're behind you all the way. Ditch the opiates, maybe get professional help. If you're open with your parents, tell them about your opiate problem. They'll lend you as much support as they can, and they might be crucial to helping you get clean.

Was it more "I'm doing drugs because I'm depressed/bored" or self medicating for something. I haven't been lurking for long and don't know the whole story.

You seem like a sweet guy Remi, I'm behind you 100% on this and I'm sure the rest of DD is too, I've never had this problem so I can't help you as much as I want to but I bet you'll get through this just fine.

I would recommend you flush the pills and start now. It really means something to want to quit bad enough to waste. When you run out, it will seem so harmless to reup one more time.

Wow, I was hoping not to get any negative comments as a start, but seeing all of these positive posts really makes me enthusiastic! I guess I should tell you a little about why I'm in the situation I currently am in, if you'd bear with me. Lick: Both. I had my first joint 3 years ago. It was plain curiosity. I would never touch anything labeled as a "hard drug", as I always saw those kind of things as "fake happiness in a zip lock bag". However, I was always bullied through school, and this has as good as destroyed my self esteem. I'd go as far as saying my self esteem is so low it's actually a psychic problem. I have trouble going to school, and when I do, I am very paranoid. I feel that everybody is watching me, and judging my horrid appearance. Whenever I hear someone laughing, my brain tells me their laughing at me. Whenever I pass someone in a hallways, my brain tells me their thinking "oh, look at that failure of a person. Haha, how can you get so lame". When I look in the mirror before I go to school, I feel like crying, but I don't. I'd have a bowl, a pill, a line etc, man up, and go to school. When I'm really stoned out of my ass, I don't give a shit what I look like. I could literary go to school naked. In fact, on opiates, my self esteem goes from non existent to probably too high. That's one of the main reasons I can't remember the last time I had a sober day. The second reason is that all my life I've been having real troubles with OCD, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. But not the "Oh, I can't step on the cracks!" kind of thing. You see, the OCD has been controlling every aspect of my life at it's worst. Some days, I've been completely unable to do anything because I've been stuck in a OCD ritual loop. It sounds really silly, yes I know, but it is a real mental disorder. I've been to therapy for it for years now, and I've been on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics. They made everything worse and pushed me to the edge of killing myself (and I was never suicidal before starting to take the meds). I quit the meds quickly, as I saw where I was heading. I quit school as well. For a half a year, I stayed home, doing nothing. Then I started working. After a while, I started school again. A music school this time, and at least things improved significantly socially. My self esteem was actually not that bad either. However, after being back in school for a year, my self esteem went to hell again. It didn't matter that much anymore though, since I could just, like I said, smoke a bowl, have a line, etc, before school, and often a couple of times during school as well. Of course I haven't been doing drugs solely because I've been depressed, but most of the harder drugs I've done is because of this reason.

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We're all behind you dude. You're clearly genuine in your intentions, so I'm certain you'll be able to follow through with them. Perhaps smoke a bowl every now and then instead, and get focused on the things you want to achieve like mending your relationships and putting more effort into school. You'll feel great about it when you get to the end. All the best.

The phrase that gets me through tough times is: I can't let things ruin me, which is what i have been doing I don't know if that will work for you, but it might help

To be honest, I'm starting to get a little scared. My stash is getting smaller and smaller.

Man up and quit the opiods, they aren't that bad

I can't really offer you any advice I have never really wanted to quit anything, good luck tho mate. I also would tell your friends and family, while I have never had trouble with drugs when I have had low points in my life talking talking to real people you have attachments to is a good idea IMO.

[QUOTE=Imaledgev2;26750328]Man up and quit the opiods, they aren't that bad[/QUOTE] I think this is what I'm in the process of doing? I'm probably gonna need to wait till my stash is empty, because I don't think I really can flush them down. It's not like it's gonna make a big difference though, my calculations were wrong and I only have enough to last me today and tomorrow, and not Sunday.

Det skal gå bra, mann.

[QUOTE=Plectophera;26753423]Det skal gå bra, mann.[/QUOTE] Kan ikke satse på noe annet, da går det hvertfall i dass!

Go Remi, be safe

I'm afraid I'm gonna turn into a complete douche during withdrawals. But I really do not want to involve my family or my boyfriend. I do not deserve their help after what I've done to them. I've been through worse shit before.

[QUOTE=Remi;26753975]I'm afraid I'm gonna turn into a complete douche during withdrawals. But I really do not want to involve my family or my boyfriend. I do not deserve their help after what I've done to them. I've been through worse shit before.[/QUOTE] Just dont let that kind of mindset trip you up in your attempt. Im sure theyd be more than happy to help, and really, trying to do it all alone almost never works because youll just justify getting some more pills or whatever. If I were you though, Id try to come up with a long list of stuff that you enjoy to do or maybe something youve been putting off because youve been doped up all the time, and just go do something on the list every time you get a craving. Youll both be amazed at how much you can get done, and also be occupied and not thinking about the drugs. I know opiates are an amazing feeling but they bring an equal or worse feeling in the end. Ive struggled with taking opiod and benzo combinations in the past and more recently uppers, but I just go back to weed when I start thinking about "better highs". Ill keep updated on your progress man. Just think of it this way, when you beat it, theres the first of many new things that will help you feel better about yourself. You beat a drug addiction.

[QUOTE=Asphyxia;26745120]I'm with you on that. Christmas is a holy time for me, and I've made a resolution to not do drugs [I]of any kind[/I] during the 2 week break we get. I may not be in the same situation as you, but I'm with you on this! Hopefully this will help you be motivated to stop.[/QUOTE] Hold on. A Christian doing drugs?

[QUOTE=jonashappy;26754434]Just dont let that kind of mindset trip you up in your attempt. Im sure theyd be more than happy to help, and really, trying to do it all alone almost never works because youll just justify getting some more pills or whatever. If I were you though, Id try to come up with a long list of stuff that you enjoy to do or maybe something youve been putting off because youve been doped up all the time, and just go do something on the list every time you get a craving. Youll both be amazed at how much you can get done, and also be occupied and not thinking about the drugs. I know opiates are an amazing feeling but they bring an equal or worse feeling in the end. Ive struggled with taking opiod and benzo combinations in the past and more recently uppers, but I just go back to weed when I start thinking about "better highs". Ill keep updated on your progress man. Just think of it this way, when you beat it, theres the first of many new things that will help you feel better about yourself. You beat a drug addiction.[/QUOTE] Thank you. I will probably have to go to extreme lengths to keep myself occupied. Just three days left of school, I'll see if I'll be able to attend them or not. I don't think it's a good idea though. I know of six people in my class alone that do drugs. Mostly psychedelics though, so it's not that bad, but still.

[QUOTE=Remi;26752272]I think this is what I'm in the process of doing? I'm probably gonna need to wait till my stash is empty, because I don't think I really can flush them down. It's not like it's gonna make a big difference though, my calculations were wrong and I only have enough to last me today and tomorrow, and not Sunday.[/QUOTE] Don't take them like normal. Reduce your dosages. If you want, just use them to ease the withdrawal symptoms, but not enough to give a high. Marijuana will be your best friend

Hmm. Maybe I should pick up some green.

[QUOTE=Remi;26755689]Hmm. Maybe I should pick up some green.[/QUOTE] Depends... i think opium withdrawl will be easier if you have some green during the worse periods... Du klarar det ! :D

Faen så jævlig mange skandinaviaere (eller hva faen det heter =P) der var her da =P Yes, I'll check around to see if anyone's got some green. I only deal hash, so my main hookups are hash hookups. I do not want to smoke hash while having withdrawals. I would probably get really knocked out and nauseous.

While I would recommend smoking an Indica-dominant strain, I don't see why smoking hash would make things worse. If that is the only thing you can get, then it would be better than nothing. [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] Then again, I've never smoked hash.

I usually get really tired from most types of hash. I except to already be pretty knocked out from before, so.

[QUOTE=Anubis678;26756672]While I would recommend smoking an Indica-dominant strain, I don't see why smoking hash would make things worse. If that is the only thing you can get, then it would be better than nothing. [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] Then again, I've never smoked hash.[/QUOTE] Hasch even if it's a sativa strain is more of a downer then a sativa dominant weed... Tho it would probably not be a bad thing to get tired :)

Send ALL of your drugs to me. I'll take good care of them :v:

Sleeping a lot (if you can, of course) would surely help getting through the long days...