Julia Gillard loses significant support among the Labor caucus - Polidicks

[QUOTE]The ABC understands Prime Minister Julia Gillard has lost significant support in the Labor caucus. It comes after a week in which Labor disunity was on full display in Canberra and former prime minister Kevin Rudd re-emerged very publicly. ABC Insiders presenter Barrie Cassidy says Mr Rudd is the only figure being considered as an alternative prime minister. Mr Cassidy spoke about the tensions within the party on Insiders this morning. "I am now very strongly of the view that Julia Gillard will not lead Labor into the next election," he said. "I think there will be a change either by her own hand or the actions of others. And I'm not relying entirely on guesswork here." Throughout the week a number of Labor MPs ridiculed the party's chances of winning the September 14 election, with one backbench MP comparing Labor to the Titanic. "It's like the Titanic - we're in the final scenes. Third class has realised the doors are locked and they're not getting out and first class are running around looking for a dress to put on," the MP, a key supporter of Mr Rudd, told ABC News Online.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-09/julia-gillard-loses-significant-support-in-caucus/4742626[/url] Related: [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-09/cassidy---gillard/4742634[/url] Not again...

"I am now very strongly of the view that Julia Gillard will not lead Labor into the next election," Makes it seem likes she pregnant.

Make it stop! -.-' I'll start to apply the national lubricant and just wait for Abbott to screw us over. He is going to win. :(

[QUOTE=Bradyns;40957066]Make it stop! -.-' I'll start to apply the national lubricant and just wait for Abbott to screw us over. He is going to win. :([/QUOTE] Either party is going to screw us over. Lets go sex party(its an actual party..)

Kevin Rudd this is your cue

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;40957124]Kevin Rudd this is your cue[/QUOTE] NO! There is a reason why he was booted from being the representative of the ALP. He didn't listen to the rest of the party when they had meetings; simply walked in with his mind made up, and would not change it at all. Even though Rudd is a top bloke, he ignored the caucus EVERY SINGLE TIME; they had good reason to ruffle the labor feathers.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;40957153] He didn't listen to the rest of the party when they had meetings; simply walked in with his mind made up, and would not change it at all. [/QUOTE] Which is exactly what a leader should do. If there is no decision, they should pick the path - not follow blindly whatever the rest of the party wishes. Plus what happens within a party caucus is their business only - it doesn't matter if he chose to ignore them. Regardless of if Rudd or Gillard are leading the Labor party into the September election, the ALP are screwed.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;40957124]Kevin Rudd this is your cue[/QUOTE] Rudd has had his chances already. Here's me hoping though that a new face comes in and shakes things up a bit.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;40957170]Which is exactly what a leader should do. If there is no decision, they should pick the path - not follow blindly whatever the rest of the party wishes. Plus what happens within a party caucus is their business only - it doesn't matter if he chose to ignore them. Regardless of if Rudd or Gillard are leading the Labor party into the September election, the ALP are screwed.[/QUOTE] [I]"...it doesn't matter if he chose to ignore them."[/I] Well, it kind of does. If you are voted the leader to head the party and be the public voice of the majority view of the party, and you fail to do so, then you will be kicked to the gutter like yesterdays trash. Think of it as a micro version of the voting population and the party that is elected. (dat fractal)

[QUOTE=Bradyns;40957194][I]"...it doesn't matter if he chose to ignore them."[/I] Well, it kind of does. If you are voted the leader to head the party and be the public voice of the majority view of the party, and you fail to do so, then you will be kicked to the gutter like yesterdays trash.[/QUOTE] It matters to the caucus, but it should not matter to the voters, so as long as they're still able to pass popular or progressive legislation in Parliament. The reason why Gillard would lose her position as PM would not be because she's not listening to the caucus, but because of how unpopular she is amongst voters - and who do you think they will return to the leadership position? It'll be Rudd (who is popular). So: [i]He didn't listen to the rest of the party when they had meetings; simply walked in with his mind made up, and would not change it at all.[/i] Answer: It shouldn't matter if he chose to ignore them.

Rudd would be an idiot to make a move now anyway. The liberal primary vote is too strong even with him at the helm; he'd be stepping up only to lose an election. Anything on his part will happen after labor loses the election.

I think the Libs already know that they'll win.

i think they're be a rise in third party support this time around, hopefully it doesn't get funneled into the greens. Some of these are alright people, but since Bob Brown left the environmental crazies have jumped in since Bob wasn't around to keep them more moderate. More power to the independents i guess.

There won't be. Nobody cares about the third parties except the third parties (and a couple of very inner city electorates).

Well Barrie Cassidy is basically in the Labor Party's pants and he is saying there is only one person the Labor Party will turn to if they are getting rid of Julia and that is Kevin. The question is will Kevin accept the offer to be PM? The answer is: of course he bloody will he thinks he's the bees knees.

There is a reason they got rid of Rudd in the first place, because he was an egomaniac who overrode his vastly more component ministers just so he could micro-manage the country. Which leads me to believe that the whole 'leadership spill' is just contrived by the media to place pressure on Labour ministers to actually act on the rumours due to the percieved popularity of his return so they can get a story. Its a stupid fucking charade

[QUOTE=Lonestriper;40958474]There is a reason they got rid of Rudd in the first place, because he was an egomaniac who overrode his vastly more component ministers just so he could micro-manage the country. Which leads me to believe that the whole 'leadership spill' is just contrived by the media to place pressure on Labour ministers to actually act on the rumours due to the percieved popularity of his return so they can get a story. Its a stupid fucking charade[/QUOTE] This is different because it is reported by Barrie Cassidy. Other media pressure scenarios that were occurring before were met with incredulousness by Barrie, he didn't report on it at all. He is a Labor supporter through and through who [I]knows[/I] ministers and gets his information from them. If he's saying it's happening it is happening. He has a lot to lose about being wrong on this.

I don't care who wins as long as it's not fucking Abbot.

Didn't Gillard fuck up your shared parenting laws or something?

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;40959110]Didn't Gillard fuck up your shared parenting laws or something?[/QUOTE] Only good thing they've done so far is the NBN.

[QUOTE=O'Neil;40959326]Only good thing they've done so far is the NBN.[/QUOTE] And maintain employment levels, and keep demand stimulated and keep standard of living up and effectively fight pollution in Australia and disability insurance, and gonski is well on the way, and tonnes of other health reforms, and financial industry reforms, and other education reforms like Building the Education Revolution. Not to mention the marine national parks, tax cuts and super reforms. Problem is they can't advertise these achievements for $#!7.