Source: [url]http://www.wbal.com/article/90580/2/template-story/Eleven-Year-Old-Boy-Shot-By-Younger-Brother-Dies[/url]
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An 11-year-old boy is dead after being accidentally shot by his 8-year-old brother.
The Harford County Sheriff’s Office was called at around 7:20 a.m. Saturday to the 900 block of Pylesville Road in the northern part of the county.
Deputies were told initially that the boys heard shots while playing outside in the woods when the 11-year-old fell to the ground. That prompted officials to utilize air and K-9 patrols to look for a random shooter in the area. A handgun in the woods was discovered during the investigation near the scene.
The 11-year-old was transported to Johns Hopkins Hospital by helicopter where he later died.
Deputies identify the victim as Michael Alexander Szoke. Deputies have not released the name of the younger brother.
Investigators determined that the boys removed the handgun from a secured area of an elderly neighbor’s property while they were helping him with yard work.
No charges are being filed at this time, pending a review from the State’s Attorney’s Office.
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More shitty news from Maryland.
[QUOTE]Investigators determined that the boys removed the handgun from a secured area of an elderly neighbor’s property while they were helping him with yard work.[/QUOTE]
I would feel like shit if I were the guy they were helping.
To know I didn't lock away my gun adequately and someone died as a result would be traumatic to say the least.
That's just fucking awful. I can't imagine what the younger one is going through now.
[QUOTE=JETFIGHTER5;36175240]That's just fucking awful. I can't imagine what the younger one is going through now.[/QUOTE]
He will live with it for ever, and it hurts because younger brothers look up to older brothers. Someone who's been there since you were born, who helped you and look out for you. But if I had to point fingers at anyone it would be the 11 year old brother himself, he should've known better than to play with a gun. His first instinct should be to tell the neighbor it wasn't secure, or just not touch it at all. And back to the 8 year old, I can't imagine growing up with people who know you killed someone. It would spread around quickly and people will act different. This wont cope well with his mentality. It also hurts that he was young, it happened while he was still developing his personality. As well, the parents won't give their 100% anymore because of them dealing with the death and the fact that the 8 year old killed him. Even though they logically know it wasn't the 8 year old's fault, at their core they will always blame him.
[QUOTE=valkery;36175231]I would feel like shit if I were the guy they were helping.
To know I didn't lock away my gun adequately and someone died as a result would be traumatic to say the least.[/QUOTE]
I'd imagine the younger brother probably feels the worst in the situation. Killing your blood relative whom might have been your best friend and you've held all those memories with would just be pure trauma. Can't see the boy ever living past that moment.
Only those who protect and serve should carry weapons of destruction.
[QUOTE=supersoldier58;36175315]He will live with it for ever, and it hurts because younger brothers look up to older brothers. Someone who's been there since you were born, who helped you and look out for you. But if I had to point fingers at anyone it would be the 11 year old brother himself, he should've known better than to play with a gun. His first instinct should be to take the gun and give it to your parents or the authorities. And back to the 8 year old, I can't imagine growing up with people who know you killed someone. It would spread around quickly and people will act different. This wont cope well with his mentality. It also hurts that he was young, it happened while he was still developing his personality. As well, the parents won't give their 100% anymore because of them dealing with the death and the fact that the 8 year old killed him. Even though they logically know it wasn't the 8 year old's fault, at their core they will always blame him.[/QUOTE]
Pretend psychology is fun.
They should not have taken the firearm in the first place. Take it to the authorities or parents? That handgun is that man's property, and taking it in the first place is theft. I believe that parents really need to educate their children on firearm safety so we can avoid tragic accidents like this. Hell, one guy in my basic died because someone was fucking with their M16 and shot another guy in the leg and he bled out. Firearms safety is a very necessary bit of knowledge to have, especially in the US.
[QUOTE=supersoldier58;36175315] His first instinct should be to take the gun and give it to your parents or the authorities. [/QUOTE]
It should have been to leave it where he found it
[QUOTE=FacepunchZen;36175459]Only those who protect and serve should carry weapons of destruction.[/QUOTE]
Pfffffhahahahaha.
[QUOTE=FacepunchZen;36175459]Only those who protect and serve should carry weapons of destruction.[/QUOTE]
That'll stop criminals for sure!
Holy shit, about a half hour from where i live.
If properly secured gun safes were required by law in the States then this wouldn't have happened.
[QUOTE=redBadger;36180806]Holy shit, about a half hour from where i live.[/QUOTE]
Same here. I'm in Reisterstown.
[QUOTE=Honesty;36181042]If properly secured gun safes were required by law in the States then this wouldn't have happened.[/QUOTE]
It is the law in Maryland, when you have children. Cops can't go inspecting everyone's house... Therefore, it doesn't stop this from happening.
A sad accident. Can't really blame parents because if they didn't own any guns then there's no need to teach kids gun safety. Not everyone could predict that they would get their hands on a real gun.
Maybe everyone shouldn't have guns
[QUOTE=James*;36181217]Maybe everyone shouldn't have guns[/QUOTE]
Criminals wont obey that, will they?
It must be awful for the kid to grow up with this now, I'm guessing the Owner of it feels worse himself that he should of put it into more protection
[QUOTE=faze;36181174]Same here. I'm in Reisterstown.
It is the law in Maryland, when you have children. Cops can't go inspecting everyone's house... Therefore, it doesn't stop this from happening.[/QUOTE]
I actually saw a helicopter yesterday morning. Didn't think twice about it.
[QUOTE=Black;36181227]Criminals wont obey that, will they?[/QUOTE]
Criminals don't obey lots of things, that's why they're criminals
[QUOTE=James*;36181217]Maybe everyone shouldn't have guns[/QUOTE]
It's not that, it is just people need to learn how to be safe with guns and how to keep them locked away from their children.
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;36181566]It's not that, it is just people need to learn how to be safe with guns and how to keep them locked away from their children.[/QUOTE]
Our schools (especially Harford County's shitty school system) does not even bother informing the students basic gun regulations and safety. I still believe there should be a required class for basic safety with weapons and other tools which pose a threat to yourself and others. Hell, put it in one of those damn technology classes that is required for us to graduate.
Here in Illinois, a safe is required to own a firearm. The safes we have at my house are locked by both encoded keypads and a built-in padlock, and surrounded by chain that is locked, to ensure that they aren't opened without permission, and then the firearms are to be constantly examined to make sure that the safety is on, the chamber is empty and that the magazine is empty, and obviously take the basic precautions that all people should when it comes to handling a firearm.
The issue here is that the owner of the firearm failed to take basic safety precautions, and left the gun open to where the child could get a hold of it. This is not a gun rights issue, but instead a gun safety issue.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36181661]Here in Illinois, a safe is required to own a firearm. The safes we have at my house are locked by both encoded keypads and a built-in padlock, and surrounded by chain that is locked, to ensure that they aren't opened without permission, and then the firearms are to be constantly examined to make sure that the safety is on, the chamber is empty and that the magazine is empty, and obviously take the basic precautions that all people should when it comes to handling a firearm.
The issue here is that the owner of the firearm failed to take basic safety precautions, and left the gun open to where the child could get a hold of it. This is not a gun rights issue, but instead a gun safety issue.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't you be dead by the time you try to get your firearm?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36181723]Wouldn't you be dead by the time you try to get your firearm?[/QUOTE]
Judging by how far they'd have to go (and the two alarm systems) and a seperate handgun safe (wherever my dad keeps it) and our dogs, pepper-spray, stun gun and home-made mace, they'd have a tough time.
Home Defense does not always have to be a lethal defense
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36181814]Judging by how far they'd have to go (and the two alarm systems) and a seperate handgun safe (wherever my dad keeps it) and our dogs, pepper-spray, stun gun and home-made mace, they'd have a tough time.
Home Defense does not always have to be a lethal defense[/QUOTE]I have to wonder what kind of neighborhood you live in where you have an army base of a house.
This is really, really sad.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36181814](and the two alarm systems) and a seperate handgun safe (wherever my dad keeps it) and our dogs, pepper-spray, stun gun and home-made mace, they'd have a tough time.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly why I like living in the UK, a person having that much weaponry in their house is fucking ridiculous, what happens if their mental health deteriorates? what's stopping them from picking up a gun and going on a spree? The UK stops this problem before it even begins.
Not to say that the UK doesn't have it's own fair share of problems.
[QUOTE=- Livewire -;36181928]This is exactly why I like living in the UK, a person having that much weaponry in their house is fucking ridiculous, what happens if their mental health deteriorates? what's stopping them from picking up a gun and going on a spree? The UK stops this problem before it even begins.
Not to say that the UK doesn't have it's own fair share of problems.[/QUOTE]
But at the same time if a psycho breaks in you have nothing to defend yourself with.
[QUOTE] the boys removed the handgun from a secured area of an elderly neighbor’s property [/QUOTE]
hmmm.
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