[quote=guardian]Funk band Vulfpeck have worked out a way to make money from Spotify – release short clips of silence and ask fans to stream it repeatedly overnight. Could other bands take note?
Who says you can’t make money out of Spotify? Certainly not Vulfpeck, a funk band from Ann Arbor, Michigan, who seem to have devised a way to beat the streaming service at its own game.
Their new album Sleepify consists of 10 songs of absolute silence, each clocking in at either 31 or 32 seconds long (tracks need to be listened to for 30 seconds to register as having been played). All they ask is that their fans stream it overnight on repeat while they sleep, in order to produce enough royalties for the band to go on tour.[/quote]
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That is clever as hell and I expect Spotify to find a way to close the exploit. Why not just get your fans to loop your normal music but muted?
[QUOTE=Reds;44293934]That is clever as hell and I expect Spotify to find a way to close the exploit. Why not just get your fans to loop your normal music but muted?[/QUOTE]
because if a normal song is 4 mins long, a 31 second song will get roughly 8 as many royalties.
[QUOTE=Reds;44293934]That is clever as hell and I expect Spotify to find a way to close the exploit. Why not just get your fans to loop your normal music but muted?[/QUOTE]
There'd be nothing to stop people from just babbling incoherently or just having a kettle boiling water whistle in the background or something else equally dull happen to subvert a no-sound filter.
FUCK
I put it on for shits and jiggles, moved on to something else, when suddenly AD LOUD AS FUCK SCARING THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!
I should have thought about it earlier...
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;44293968]There'd be nothing to stop people from just babbling incoherently or just having a kettle boiling water whistle in the background or something else equally dull happen to subvert a no-sound filter.[/QUOTE]
there is a lot of legitimate music that isnt far off from that
as cool and nifty as this is i don't really like the idea of intentionally screwing over spotify
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44294007]there is a lot of legitimate music that isnt far off from that[/QUOTE][video=youtube;RbAxbvWCSOQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbAxbvWCSOQ[/video]
Here's an entire album of it. :v:
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;44294021]as cool and nifty as this is i don't really like the idea of intentionally screwing over spotify[/QUOTE]
isn't intentionally screwing spotify over is kind of the secondary point to this tho because most small artists think it's an absolute rip off?
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;44294021]as cool and nifty as this is i don't really like the idea of intentionally screwing over spotify[/QUOTE]
Spotify has done too good of a service to us to be abused.
Along with desktop listening, it's great for previewing albums before you buy them.
pfff John Cage did it first.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44294095]isn't intentionally screwing spotify over is kind of the secondary point to this tho because most small artists think it's an absolute rip off?[/QUOTE]
Their royalty prices are pretty abysmal so I think it's justified. I mean Adfly would probably be more profitable than spotify.
[QUOTE=FoneJack;44294190]pfff John Cage did it first.[/QUOTE]
for reference
here's a better way, make people pay hundreds to thousands each in tickets to listen to silence
[video=youtube;zY7UK-6aaNA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY7UK-6aaNA[/video]
I use Rdio instead.
Basically spotify but can be accessed from the browser, less intrusive ads, and has a service where if you subscribe to it, you can download albums to your phone and such with a simple touch.
It also acts as pandora and finds new, similar music when you're through with an album.
These guys actually kinda slay
[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;44294207]Their royalty prices are pretty abysmal so I think it's justified. I mean Adfly would probably be more profitable than spotify.[/QUOTE]
If they are going to raise the royalties they would also need to raise the price. Do you think they will maintain their userbase if they raise the price?
I don't see any justification in this.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44294276]I use Rdio instead.
Basically spotify but can be accessed from the browser, less intrusive ads, and has a service where if you subscribe to it, you can download albums to your phone and such with a simple touch.[/QUOTE]
You can access Spotify from your browser and have Spotify on your mobile phone with offline functionality if you subscribe. What's the difference exactly?
[QUOTE=dgg;44294364]If they are going to raise the royalties they would also need to raise the price. Do you think they will maintain their userbase if they raise the price?
I don't see any justification in this.[/QUOTE]
there's no logical justification, sure, but there is a moral justification in that unless you're a band that already has selling albums and hundreds of thousands of youtube views it's just totally pointless to be on spotify. i'm not even talking about being arena-sized. it's just pointless for the indie scene
but then i guess it's not designed for those people at the end of the day
spotify isnt in canada for some reason so i have never used it
is it any good
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44294095]isn't intentionally screwing spotify over is kind of the secondary point to this tho because most small artists think it's an absolute rip off?[/QUOTE]
lets be real spotify isn't designed whatsoever for small artists
if they're on spotify they're wasting their time, the only reason to have a contract with spotify at that point is for the occasional lucky new listener that might then become a fan. small artists should be using youtube as their primary source as it provides them easy ability to communicate directly with potential fans, etc
[editline]19th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mike Tyson;44294439]spotify isnt in canada for some reason so i have never used it
is it any good[/QUOTE]
minus the ads that are super creepy, yeah
i don't know how to describe it but basically every advertisement on spotify sounds WAY too happy to be there, like every voice is that 20 something year old that's super excited about something and wants you to check out a new channel or some dumb crap
the ads all sound eerily the same and it's really maddening. at least with on-air commercials there's enough of a diverse pool that it isn't enough to make you go crazy
I never could stand Spotify. I'd rather just buy music than have to listen to ads while it's playing.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;44294486]small artists should be using youtube as their primary source as it provides them easy ability to communicate directly with potential fans, etc[/QUOTE]
and then bandcamp
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