CIA Bin Laden Unit Chief: "Washington, Tel Aviv, and London are already goading Iran to react with v - Polidicks

[URL="http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/1/prweb9073084.htm"]Source[/URL] [release]Top Republican presidential contender U.S. Rep. Ron Paul has been [URL="http://www.revolutionpac.com/2012/01/cia-bin-laden-unit-chief-endorses-ron-paul/"]endorsed[/URL] by former head of the CIA’s “Bin Laden Unit” Michael Scheuer, reports Revolution PAC. In his endorsement, Scheuer backs Paul’s longstanding non-interventionist foreign policy views and warns of bankruptcy and increased hostility toward Americans both at home and abroad should current bipartisan foreign adventurism continue. Scheuer writes, “Any other Republican candidate or a reelected Obama will keep lying to Americans by claiming that we are being attacked because of our liberties, gender-equality laws, and elections rather than [B]because of Washington’s constant intervention in the Islamic world. This now two-decade-old lie – which is abetted by most of the media – has hidden from Americans the fact that all of the would-be Islamist attackers who have been captured in this country were motivated by the invasion of Iraq, U.S. support for Israel, or some other U.S. government action in the Muslim world.”[/B] A 22-year CIA veteran, Georgetown University Security Studies adjunct professor and bestselling author, Scheuer blasts the Obama administration’s reckless nation-building efforts in the Middle East and sounds the alarm on a Western first strike on Iran. [highlight]“Indeed, Washington, Tel Aviv, and London are already conducting a lethal, covert-action war inside Iran which is killing Iranian nuclear scientists and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet#Iran_as_target"]destroying nuclear-related facilities[/URL], as well as trying to goad Tehran into reacting with violence and thereby give the West a casus belli,” [/highlight]continues Scheuer. “Such a war would be a financial and military disaster for the United States, and would be watched with glee by Russian and Chinese leaders who — while their countries would lose some trade with Iran during a war — would applaud another U.S. self-inflicted would that further erodes the already failing economy that is the base of American power.” Scheuer notes that throughout the Republican primary campaign, Rep. Paul has [URL="http://www.revolutionpac.com/2011/11/paul-leads-in-donations-from-military-voters-with-obama-next/"]raised more money[/URL] from active duty military members than all other candidates, including Barack Obama. “What we have not fully accomplished in eight centuries cannot possibly be attained in Egypt, Afghanistan, or elsewhere in the Muslim world in 6 weeks, 6 months, or six years, not least because none of those places separate church from state,” asserts Scheuer. “Dr. Paul’s precise use of history and commonsense exposes the exorbitantly costly effort to build democracies in the Islamic world for what it is; namely, Washington throwing money down the drain for a cause that is impossibly lost from the start and one that will involve us in wars where we have no interests.” [/release]In addition with the U.S' past entanglement with Iran (e.g. overthrowing Iran democracy to implement a pro-U.S dictator in the 50s), this is yet another example of why Iran is hostile with the West.

What the fuck. This is some Call of Duty shit.

sounds like the plot to MW4 [editline]9:35PM[/editline] Wow seriously?

not surprising considering the little mishap their centrifuges went through why is america so interested in fighting iran if not for israel's interest? [editline]5th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=DaBigManZM;34058945]What the fuck. This is some Call of Duty shit.[/QUOTE] nah a call of duty game would turn the tables and have the evil iran killing OUR scientists

Good! They are making nukes and are a HUGE threat to the only jewish state, we need to bomb Irans nuclear facilities asap before its to late to do anything!

While this certainly seems probable, I'm still skeptical on the credibility of the source here. He's the [U]former[/U] head of the CIA's [U]Bin Laden[/U] unit, and while I'd certainly say he has good inside info on a variety of topics this seems a bit out of his realm. As well, he's not releasing this statement out of the good of his heart, he has an agenda. He's already on a soap box for the first half of the article, then he comes out and says the quote of the title. He could be pulling this out of his ass for all we know. I think that yeah, he might very well be right, it's not implausible, but to me the whole claim seems dubious.

For those that don't know. Casus Belli means justification for war.

Iran is old beans now, Americans are tired of it. Let's bomb Pakistan now.

[QUOTE=mac338;34059153]Iran is old beans now, Americans are tired of it. Let's bomb Pakistan now.[/QUOTE] Iran in the 2010's Pakistan in the 2020's lets do it

I heavily question the credibility of the source.

[QUOTE=dickpickle;34059075]Good! They are making nukes and are a HUGE threat to the only jewish state, we need to bomb Irans nuclear facilities asap before its to late to do anything![/QUOTE] please be joking please be joking please be joking

[QUOTE=Spooter;34059094]While this certainly seems probable, I'm still skeptical on the credibility of the source here. He's the [U]former[/U] head of the CIA's [U]Bin Laden[/U] unit, and while I'd certainly say he has good inside info on a variety of topics this seems a bit out of his realm. [/QUOTE] [release]Michael F. Scheuer (born 1952[1]) is a former CIA intelligence officer, American blogger, historian, foreign policy critic, and political analyst. He is currently an adjunct professor at Georgetown University's Center for Peace and Security Studies. In his 22-year career, he served as the Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), from 1996 to 1999, the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorist Center. He then worked again as Special Advisor to the Chief of the bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004.[/release] I'm sure this is not "out of his expertise" (as you seemed to implied)

[QUOTE=Starpluck;34059265][release]Michael F. Scheuer (born 1952[1]) is a former CIA intelligence officer, American blogger, historian, foreign policy critic, and political analyst. He is currently an adjunct professor at Georgetown University's Center for Peace and Security Studies. In his 22-year career, he served as the Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), from 1996 to 1999, the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorist Center. He then worked again as Special Advisor to the Chief of the bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004.[/release] I'm sure this is not "out of his expertise" (as you seemed to implied)[/QUOTE] I am sure he is an expert in his field but being an expert doesn't grant you omniscience.

[QUOTE=Thlis;34059424]I am sure he is an expert in his field but being an expert doesn't grant you omniscience.[/QUOTE]No one suggested he was omniscient I’m not even sure what you’re disputing, are you disagreeing with what he says? The specific events he cited to reinforce his claims is fact.

[quote]because of Washington’s constant intervention in the Islamic world. This now two-decade-old lie – which is abetted by most of the media – has hidden from Americans the fact that all of the would-be Islamist attackers who have been captured in this country were motivated by the invasion of Iraq, U.S. support for Israel, or some other U.S. government action in the Muslim world.[/quote] This is true

This sounds like something the warmongering NATO fascists would do, I believe it .

[QUOTE=Contag;34060408]This is true[/QUOTE] dude are you an idiot they hate us for our freedoms

[QUOTE=Kopimi;34060418]dude are you an idiot they hate us for our freedoms[/QUOTE] I guess the only solution is to remove all our freedoms! Aha, take that terrorists

[QUOTE=Kopimi;34060418]dude are you an idiot they hate us for our freedoms[/QUOTE] I know people who think this sadly.

[QUOTE=Ale994145;34060415]This sounds like something the warmongering NATO fascists would do, I believe it .[/QUOTE] I hope you realize that 'fascist' isn't just another word for 'bad'. I mean don't get me wrong what they're doing here is atrocious, and Fascism itself is atrocious, but how is NATO, a military alliance, politically Fascist?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34060766]I hope you realize that 'fascist' isn't just another word for 'bad'. I mean don't get me wrong what they're doing here is atrocious, and Fascism itself is atrocious, but how is NATO, a military alliance, politically Fascist?[/QUOTE] I know Fascist is not a word for bad, I am referencing NATO though. NATO interferes with other countries, suppresses rights and attempts or does subjective other countries not to mention their imperialist militarist intent.

[QUOTE=Ale994145;34060787]I know Fascist is not a word for bad, I am referencing NATO though. NATO interferes with other countries, suppresses rights and attempts or does subjective other countries not to mention their imperialist militarist intent.[/QUOTE] That doesn't sound like fascism

[QUOTE=Ale994145;34060787]I know Fascist is not a word for bad, I am referencing NATO though. NATO interferes with other countries, suppresses rights and attempts or does subjective other countries not to mention their imperialist militarist intent.[/QUOTE] Saying that they're hawkish and imperialist has a very different connotation than saying that they're fascist.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34060873]Saying that they're hawkish and imperialist has a very different connotation than saying that they're fascist.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lambeth;34060864]That doesn't sound like fascism[/QUOTE] [B][I], suppresses rights[/I][/B], [I][B]militarist intent.[/B][/I]

That's not fascism

[QUOTE=Lambeth;34060890]That's not fascism[/QUOTE] Its fairly close, also NATO countries are often corporatist and prefer giving power to corporations over their own citizens, yet another staple of fascism.

[QUOTE=Ale994145;34060918]Its fairly close, also NATO countries are often corporatist and prefer giving power to corporations over their own citizens, yet another staple of fascism.[/QUOTE] Not really. I mean corporatism is a element of fascism but I do not think all nato countries are like what you described.

[QUOTE=Ale994145;34060918]Its fairly close, also NATO countries are often corporatist and prefer giving power to corporations over their own citizens, yet another staple of fascism.[/QUOTE] 'NATO countries are often corporatist, yet another staple of Fascism' Categorically wrong. Other than the US, which I would say is heavily swayed by corporate influence, do you think a majority of these states are 'corporatist': [img]http://i.imgur.com/8T5Lw.png[/img] [editline]5th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Ale994145;34060883][B][I], suppresses rights[/I][/B], [I][B]militarist intent.[/B][/I][/QUOTE] NATO isn't about suppressing rights or militarist intent. Member nations and their respective militaries may exhibit tendencies towards one of those, but NATO [I]as an organization,[/I] is not about that.

NATO does get a lot of it's funding from the US though

[QUOTE=Lambeth;34060997]NATO does get a lot of it's funding from the US though[/QUOTE] Not really the point, considering he just said 'NATO countries'. How much funding each one donates is irrelevant to the assertion he made.