• "Internet Eyes" - Mass Surveillance from the comfort of your home
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[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8293784.stm[/url] [quote]Members of the public could earn cash by monitoring commercial CCTV cameras in their own home, in a scheme planned to begin next month. The Internet Eyes website will offer up to £1,000 if viewers spot shoplifting or other crimes in progress. The site's owners say they want to combine crime prevention with the incentive of winning money. But civil liberties campaigners say the idea is "distasteful" and asks private citizens to spy on each other. The private company scheme - due to go live in Stratford-upon-Avon in November - aims to stream live footage to subscribers' home computers from CCTV cameras installed in shops and other businesses. This is a private company using private cameras and asking private citizens to spy on each other. It represents a privatisation of the surveillance state Charles Farrier, No CCTV If viewers see a crime in progress, they can press a button to alert store detectives and collect points worth up to £1,000. Internet Eyes founder James Woodward said: "This is about crime prevention. "CCTV isn't watched, it isn't monitored, and not enough cameras are watched at any one time. "What we're doing is we're putting more eyes onto those cameras so that they are monitored". 'Snoopers' paradise' However civil liberty campaigners say they are horrified by what they say is the creation of a "snoopers' paradise". Charles Farrier from No CCTV said: "It is a distasteful and a worrying development. "This is a private company using private cameras and asking private citizens to spy on each other. It represents a privatisation of the surveillance state." Internet Eyes has defended its plans, saying viewers will not know exactly which camera they're watching or where it is located. Although the UK is the "world capital of CCTV" - with an estimated one camera per 14 people - viewing hours of mostly tedious and often poor quality images is a lengthy and unpopular job, said the BBC's home affairs correspondent Andy Tighe. In August, an internal report commissioned by London's Metropolitan Police estimated that in 2008 just one crime was solved per thousand CCTV cameras in the capital. The deficit was partly blamed on officers not being able to make the best use of the many thousands of hours of video generated by CCTV.[/quote] Surveillance Cameras - [b]CHECK[/b] Creepy eye logo - [b]CHECK[/b] Newspeak - [b]CHECK[/b] Rewards for spying on other citizens - [b]CHECK[/b] It's one step closer to a 1984 style surveillance state.
You can see the cameras at my school as well from one of these sites.
Can I monitor the citizens who are monitoring?
Shhhhh don't spoil it yet. I'm only on chapter 4. But if so, I'm totally for renaming England Airstrip One.
i'd do it
What are the chances of actually catching someone in the act?
I'm not really sure how this is spying. It helps get more eyes onto SECURITY cameras that should be watched in the first place. If every camera in a store had at least one person paying attention to each one, shoplifting would be a lot harder to pull off. It's not like they're peering into people's houses or their cars, unless I am mistaken.
[QUOTE=Shugo;17752939]I'm not really sure how this is spying. It helps get more eyes onto SECURITY cameras that should be watched in the first place. If every camera in a store had at least one person paying attention to each one, shoplifting would be a lot harder to pull off. It's not like they're peering into people's houses or their cars, unless I am mistaken.[/QUOTE] Yes, but what if you're shopping for German mobile phones and your over-patriotic grandfather spots you? [b]Yer in fer a good spankin son[/b]
Hmm, I honestly think that the store would lose more money by paying up that £1,000 instead of just letting it go.
Oh my taking away work from already busy CCTV operators ! This is clearly 1984 now all we need is thought police brb while I go read 1984 again and then claim that everything is just like it says in a ficticious book. Also I'd totally do it, I don't give a fuck if someone gets arrested I'd rather have an extra £1000 in my pocket.
Where do I sign up for this?
Blimey, what an incentive for tattling on your fellow man... I'd expect this kinda reward to be used for a British brand of bounty hunting, but not spying on someone via the internet.
[QUOTE=helpiminabox;17753437]Where do I sign up for this?[/QUOTE] Do you live in Stratford-upon-Avon?
Anything like this in America?
It doesn't seem that good to me, I mean if you only get points for catching someone in the act and it says [quote]collect points worth up to £1,000.[/quote] which probably means you get jack all unless you catch someone stealing a yacht or large scale robbery. So you'd have to spend all those hours watching cameras, not getting paid just to find one person doing it and catch them, worth it? Not really.
[QUOTE=Bengley;17753527]Do you live in Stratford-upon-Avon?[/QUOTE] Nope. Then again, I don't even live in the UK! :buddy:
[QUOTE=Smirnoff Joe;17753509]Blimey, what an incentive for tattling on your fellow man... I'd expect this kinda reward to be used for a British brand of bounty hunting, but not spying on someone via the internet.[/QUOTE] If viewing a public place its not actually consider spying under law, kinda creepy but not spying.
I bet watching over shoplifting at a brothel would be a popular choice.
[QUOTE=The Pro;17752859][url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8293784.stm[/url] Surveillance Cameras - [b]CHECK[/b] Creepy eye logo - [b]CHECK[/b] Newspeak - [b]CHECK[/b] Rewards for spying on other citizens - [b]CHECK[/b] It's one step closer to a 1984 style surveillance state.[/QUOTE] Now lets raise our kids to do this!
[QUOTE=Smirnoff Joe;17753509]Blimey, what an incentive for tattling on your fellow man... I'd expect this kinda reward to be used for a British brand of bounty hunting, but not spying on someone via the internet.[/QUOTE] I bet you'd refuse to tell the police if someone you knew murdered someone.
[QUOTE=Bannned;17753164]Hmm, I honestly think that the store would lose more money by paying up that £1,000 instead of just letting it go.[/QUOTE] Looks like you subscribe to be able to do it, IE, you pay money, and it's probably from that pool of money you get the reward from, knowing that it will earn more than it spends, especially in the long run It's a good idea
[QUOTE=markg06;17753661]I bet you'd refuse to tell the police if someone you knew murdered someone.[/QUOTE] Huh, now that's an internal dilemma... I'd probably find some way to redeem whoever did the murder, make them attone for what they did. But it also depends on the grounds on which they did the murder. If it was to save multiple lives, like kill an armed gunman to save others, then i'd probably consider it a "good" kill, as a necessary evil. But if it were done in cold blood, then i'd probably have to turn 'em in.
[QUOTE=Darrylop;17752902]Shhhhh don't spoil it yet. I'm only on chapter 4. But if so, I'm totally for renaming England Airstrip One.[/QUOTE] Turns out Big Brother is a horse. [editline]09:54AM[/editline] Also Britain , you guys have to be the most ironic country since Israel.
I'd do this, take my grand then leave.
So... where's the Newspeak in that article again?
Has to be a hoax surely?
I'll make sure women aren't stealing clothes in the changing rooms...
I'd rather prevent potential crimes then give full freedom to the complete nutjobs we have in this society. It's not like they can see you naked and fap over it.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;17753533]Anything like this in America?[/QUOTE] No, thank fuck.
[QUOTE=iamgnome;17754708] It's not like they can see you naked and fap over it.[/QUOTE] Not today they can't...
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