Trijicon, maker of ACOG scopes, to Remove Bible References from Gun Sights - Polidicks

[quote=Christian Post] The company embroiled in the controversy over Bible verse codes embossed on its gun sights announced that it will stop the practice. Michigan-based Trijicon, Inc., which has a $660 million multi-year contract with the U.S. Marine Corps, said Thursday that the company will stop putting Bible references on all its products for the U.S. military. It will also remove all Scripture references on U.S. military products that have yet to be shipped and provide 100 modification kits to the Pentagon to remove references that are on optical sights already used in the field. "Trijicon has proudly served the U.S. military for more than two decades, and our decision to offer to voluntarily remove these references is both prudent and appropriate,” said Trijicon president and CEO Stephen Bindon, in a statement. “We want to thank the Department of Defense for the opportunity to work with them and will move as quickly as possible to provide the modification kits for deployment overseas.” Earlier this week, the media got a hold of the story that Trijicon engraves hard-to-see Bible passage references on its optical sighting devices used by the U.S. Marine Corps and Army in Iraq and Afghanistan, and by U.S. allies in those countries. At the end of a series of numbers and letters is a Bible reference – such as JN8:12, 2COR4:6 – which can be easily overlooked as part of the stock number. The Bible references carry the common theme of Jesus being the light of the world. There is no biblical text on the sights, only numerical references to passages. Trijicon, founded by a Christian originally from South Africa, has long included the Bible reference on its products. The company said it adopted the practice “as part of our faith and our belief in service to country.” "I want more Christian news!" Following the ABC News report on Monday, which turned the previously little-known story into an international debate, the U.S. Marine Corps expressed its concern about the Bible codes to the sight manufacturer. The U.S. Marine Corps said it did not know about the references before the report. In the U.S., several groups complained that the inscription could feed into the Muslim extremists’ claim that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are a religious “crusade against Islam.” The Muslim Public Affairs Council wrote in a letter to U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates: “Allowing religious references to be placed on U.S. weaponry, which are bought and paid for by U.S. taxpayers, is unacceptable. “Such inscriptions not only run afoul of the constitution and U.S. military rules, but they also feed into the violent extremists' narrative that the ongoing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are a 'crusade against Islam.’" MPAC called on the U.S. government to remove all weapons with such religious reference from combat use. In response to Trijicon’s offer to remove Bible references on U.S. military products, MPAC said it welcomed the news and called it a “victory for religious freedom and our Constitutional guarantees.” Trijicon said it will also offer foreign military forces that have purchased its products, such as Britain, Australia and New Zealand, the same solution for removing the Scripture reference and guarantees that orders on future products will not have the inscription. [/quote] Source: [url]http://www.christianpost.com/news/company-to-remove-bible-references-from-gun-sights-43438[/url]

I thought they had already done so after the controversy a few months back.

so they put bible references on gun sights like an in-n-out cup or something that's just retarded

[QUOTE=thisispain;29032824]so they put bible references on gun sights like an in-n-out cup or something that's just retarded[/QUOTE] They had been doing it for years. Since they first started making weapon sights. They just now removed it because someone decided to spew a bunch of bullshit after they noticed it a few months back.

I don't see why they even bothered adding it in the first place surely soldiers are going to be too busy looking through the sight rather than at it and referencing bible quotes.

[B]John 8:12[/B] [I]When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”[/I] [B]2 Corinthians 4:16[/B] [I]For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.[/I] These aren't passages that justify killing in the name of god, nor do they seem to serve any purpose other than possibly being a source of courage and comfort for the more devout among the troops. There's nothing really wrong with it, though I still understand the importance of secular neutrality for any company that facilitates warfighting.

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Why the fuck were they putting bible references on gunsights anyway? I'm sure God must love having references to his book being plastered on tools of death.

[QUOTE=bravehat;29032858]Why the fuck were they putting bible references on gunsights anyway? I'm sure God must love having references to his book being plastered on tools of death.[/QUOTE] I doubt god would care too much.

[QUOTE=bravehat;29032858]Why the fuck were they putting bible references on gunsights anyway? I'm sure God must love having references to his book being plastered on tools of death.[/QUOTE] See my post.

[QUOTE=thisispain;29032824]so they put bible references on gun sights like an in-n-out cup or something that's just retarded[/QUOTE] they started doing it back in the day when everyone wasnt going "LOL IM COOL IM ATHEIST LEEOEOLOL"

What an odd business practice.

[QUOTE=c0nk3r;29032974]they started doing it back in the day when everyone wasnt going "I'm a thinking man, therefore I am an atheist."[/QUOTE] Fix'd.

Can't say it really matters, I sure wouldn't care. Unless they picked some of the more unusual Bible phrases like: [b]Ezekiel 23:19-21 [/b] [i] Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers,[u] whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.[/u] So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.[/i] :v:

[QUOTE=archangel125;29032843][B]John 8:12[/B] [I]When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”[/I][/QUOTE] That's the inscription mine has :v: [IMG]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/Shooting/Dsc_0007-1.jpg[/IMG] [editline]7th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=bravehat;29032858]Why the fuck were they putting bible references on gunsights anyway? I'm sure God must love having references to his book being plastered on tools of death.[/QUOTE] There have been guns found all over Iraq with inscriptions from the Quran cut into them.

[QUOTE=archangel125;29032946]See my post.[/QUOTE] Fair enough then, if it was the shit that was like "I command you to rape all the women in this town, kill the kids and men and take the women as your brides because I let all your women die of dysentery" then I would have problems with it. [editline]7th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;29033073]That's the inscription mine has :v: [img_thumb]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/Shooting/Dsc_0007-1.jpg[/img_thumb] [editline]7th April 2011[/editline] There have been guns found all over Iraq with inscriptions from the Quran cut into them.[/QUOTE] Yeah but most of the people fighting against the coalition view this war as a religious one.

[QUOTE=bravehat;29033114]Yeah but most of the people fighting against the coalition view this war as a religious one.[/QUOTE] That's because they've been lied into believing that the coalition is there to convert everyone and kill the rest, much like the Japanese back in 1945, which caused mass suicides once they became cornered.

Irrelevant, they still believe it's a religious war, irrespective of why they believe it, either way having religious shit from the bible on our guns really ain't gonna help change that thinking.

[QUOTE=Ridge;29033132]That's because they've been lied into believing that the coalition is there to convert everyone and kill the rest, much like the Japanese back in 1945, which caused mass suicides once they became cornered.[/QUOTE] [quote=George Bush]This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.[/quote] [quote=George Bush]I want to tell you something, we've got no better friends than Canada. (Applause.) They stand with us in this incredibly important crusade to defend freedom, this campaign to do what is right for our children and our grandchildren.[/quote]

Seems like a small thing for anyone to get worked up about.

[QUOTE=DemonDog2;29033280]Seems like a small thing for anyone to get worked up about.[/QUOTE] It's not, it's religion in a government institution, it really shouldn't be there. Also, for c0nk3r, since you disagreed, you remember that little bit in some fundamental piece of paper that's important to america? You know that bit titled "Separation of Church and State"? Yeah it means you separate church and state.

[QUOTE=bravehat;29032858]Why the fuck were they putting bible references on gunsights anyway? I'm sure God must love having references to his book being plastered on tools of death.[/QUOTE] "The lord is a man of war." -Exodus 15:3

[QUOTE=archangel125;29032843][B]John 8:12[/B] [I]When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”[/I] [B]2 Corinthians 4:16[/B] [I]For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.[/I] These aren't passages that justify killing in the name of god, nor do they seem to serve any purpose other than possibly being a source of courage and comfort for the more devout among the troops. There's nothing really wrong with it, though I still understand the importance of secular neutrality for any company that facilitates warfighting.[/QUOTE] I'd be cool with it if they also had passages from muslim, jewish, secular etc. sources.

[QUOTE=Hellduck;29033315]"The lord is a man of war." -Exodus 15:3[/QUOTE] Details details.

Bible? Guns? ;)

I don't see the point in doing this anyway, if the soldier is religious chances are he's already carrying a pocket bible with him. Maybe they should emboss something else on them?

The only "bible" quote I would put on a gun is Pattons rendition of Psalm 23:4. [i]"As I walk through the valley of death I fear no one, for I am the meanest mother fucker in the valley!"[/i]

I bet they never inscribe this one: "Thou shall not kill".

[QUOTE=archangel125;29033022]Fix'd.[/QUOTE] oh im sorry i didnt realize you were right about everything bro.

[QUOTE=OvB;29033707]The only "bible" quote I would put on a gun is Pattons rendition of Psalm 23:4. [i]"As I walk through the valley of death I fear no one, for I am the meanest mother fucker in the valley!"[/i][/QUOTE] [i]"As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I take a look at my life and realize there's not much left coz I've been blastin and laughin so long, that even my mama thinks that my mind is gone"[/i] :v: