Phil Fish could be charged 20,000$ and 20 years in prison for fraud. - Polidicks

[quote]It’s been a long couple of weeks, and let’s face it, only so much mud can be thrown around before somebody in a position of legal authority starts to take action. Anita Sarkeesian and her inner circle are convinced that the FBI are going to bring the book down hard on all those nasty ‘gross nerds’ sending death threats (again, not cool), but recent twists in the industry consuming controversy suggest that the recently retired Phil Fish and members of the Indie Games Festival are far juicier targets for the federal agency. The potential charges? Textbook racketeering. Ouch. Somewhat ironically, the reason for suspicion came after Phil Fish was a victim of high profile hacking himself. Hackers (supposedly from 4chan) gained access to his web server, not only seizing control of the website it was hosting, but all the financial records and details that forced Phil Fish to shutter the doors to Polytron once and for all. Since the information leaked was posted public, a number of parties including investigative youtubers such as ‘CameraLady’, ‘ShortFatOtaku’, and the FBI themselves have unveiled a financial conspiracy far greater than any of the claims of corruption we’ve seen yet. fez There are three entities involved in the alleged crime, Phil Fish’s Polytron, the Indie Games Festival, and an organisation to give grants to developers called ‘Indie Cade’. The basic gist behind it is that Indie Cade originally gave Phil a large sum on money to jumpstart Fez. Indie Cade and Polytron then took seats as major judges in the 2011 and 2012 Indie Games Festival, boosting its chances to succeed and gain the publicity to make the title the major hit it became. Since Fez won best in show for both those years (the first time the game hadn’t even been completed), one can assume the plan was a success. It’s worth noting though that the investigation is still very much ongoing, and no formal charges have been made. Remember folks, innocent until proven guilty! Things certainly must be looking grim for poor Fish however, whom if found guilty will be facing a $25,000 fine and 20 year prison sentence for each count. Though the now defunct Polytron have been predictably silent on the claims, the Independent Games Festival did have a statement to make. “The IGF (and its parent company, which has looked into these claims) would like to assure all entrants and gamers that we take the idea of conflict of interest seriously in selecting our judging and jurying pools. Worries about the Independent Games Festival are nothing new (thanks to its perceived ‘star-making’ qualities), but for those who are unaware, we’ll explain again how the process works.” Read more: [url]http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/09/gamergate-polytron-fbi-investigation/#ixzz3Cqjnsn4d[/url] [/quote] [url]http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/09/gamergate-polytron-fbi-investigation/[/url]

suck our dick. choke on it.

Even with how much i dislike phil, i dont think he should go to jail for TWENTY years for that.

I love when this kind of stuff happens All those punks and asshats thinking they could get away clean with what they did. The guy who wrote that tl,dr about Zoe Quinn must be the Franz Ferdinand (Or Gavrilo Princip) of the Web.

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45934818]Even with how much i dislike phil, i dont think he should go to jail for TWENTY years for that.[/QUOTE] up to 20 years probably, but it depends on how much he profited from racketeering if found guilty, its really the burden of the prosecution to prove that 20 years is acceptable so they'll probably go for like 3-5 years and he'll be out in 2 on parole [editline]9th September 2014[/editline] still unbelievably crazy that they can level a sentence so large at you when its almost impossible to actually obtain that level

So long, and thanks for all the Fish! :wink:

so I take it we aren't getting fez 2

[QUOTE=J!NX;45934860]so I take it we aren't getting fez 2[/QUOTE] what a shame

[QUOTE=DeEz;45934892]what a shame[/QUOTE] Truly a [URL="http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/tofulovesanime/gifs/giggle.gif"]lo[/URL]ss for the gaming industry

[QUOTE=krakadict;45934816]suck our dick. choke on it.[/QUOTE] [img]http://theawkwardglitch.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/1375142585574.jpg?w=620[/img] someone photoshop "our" into it

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45934818]Even with how much i dislike phil, i dont think he should go to jail for TWENTY years for that.[/QUOTE] It's not going to happen either. They always quote the maximum punishments when talking about stuff like this.

[QUOTE=SexualShark;45934906] someone photoshop "our" into it[/QUOTE] [img]https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/620x349q90/673/0HON7s.png[/img]

[QUOTE=RichyZ;45935005]up to 20 years, very unlikely he'll get more than 5 if this actually goes through[/QUOTE] I would imagine anywhere from 2-5 years. I doubt it'll even go that far to be honest but we'll see.

[QUOTE=J!NX;45934860]so I take it we aren't getting fez 2[/QUOTE] we were never going to get fez 2, phil's programmer quit polygon after fez 1

[QUOTE=No_0ne;45935015]we were never going to get fez 2, phil's programmer quit polygon after fez 1[/QUOTE] i thought he bragged about programming the whole thing by himself after his team abandoned him

[QUOTE=JoelDJr;45934975][IMG]https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/620x349q90/673/0HON7s.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Fuck you beat me to it eh i'll post mine anyways [img]http://puu.sh/bsrda.jpg[/img]

The title is misleading and the article is jumping to conclusions. Nothing has been confirmed by anyone. The original source video (which was put in a disclaimer at the top) was taken down by recommendation by lawyers, but nothing has happened yet. He hasn't been charged for anything because they haven't even been investigated.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;45935047]The title is misleading and the article is jumping to conclusions. Nothing has been confirmed by anyone. The original source video (which was put in a disclaimer at the top) was taken down by recommendation by lawyers, but nothing has happened yet. He hasn't been charged for anything because they haven't even been investigated.[/QUOTE] Phil Fish [b]could be[/b] charged 20,000$ and 20 years in prison for fraud.

I still don't understand WTF polytron is and how it's connected to Zoe.

[QUOTE=JoelDJr;45935074]Phil Fish [b]could be[/b] charged 20,000$ and 20 years in prison for fraud.[/QUOTE] Could is still speculation, not facts. Even still, he's a small fry in the big picture. I know everyone wants to see him go to jail for being an asshole, but assuming everything was true he'd get probably a year or two. He's only a pawn in the grand scheme of the fraud. The people behind Indie Fund, IGF, and IndieCade are the true targets and will most likely get a heftier fine and prison sentence.

[QUOTE=krakadict;45934816]suck our dick. choke on it.[/QUOTE] We all have one collective dick?

[QUOTE=Chaotic Lord;45935104]We all have one collective dick?[/QUOTE] maybe [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT7xc_XqYO8"]it comes in a bag[/URL] [QUOTE=RichyZ;45935111]polytron was a game company lead by phil fish that made fez its connected to zoe because they colluded with zoe and pals to win that sweet sweet igf prize money[/QUOTE] how badly did they try and scam it exactly?

This just in, Phil Fish could be a nazi alien ghost

There's laws against this type of thing? As scummy as it is to manipulate the awards like that, legal action isn't really justified

[QUOTE=eurocracy;45935290]There's laws against this type of thing? As scummy as it is to manipulate the awards like that, legal action isn't really justified[/QUOTE] tbh it should only really apply if it comes down to like governmental affairs, but when its someprivate company and all that i dont see why the government should get involved.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;45934825]The guy who wrote that tl,dr about Zoe Quinn must be the Franz Ferdinand (Or Gavrilo Princip) of the Web.[/QUOTE] source for someone who couldn't bother trailing through that five guys blog when this whole thing took off

[QUOTE=eurocracy;45935290]There's laws against this type of thing? As scummy as it is to manipulate the awards like that, legal action isn't really justified[/QUOTE] So manipulating an awards show for the sake of a grant, awards, and "positive" publicity at the financial expense of the public and press that attended while undermining the efforts and wallets of the developers not involved with such racketeering sounds completely legal to you? It's like insider trading.

It doesn't confirm anything and the way it uses "Phil Fish" instead of "numerous indie scene devs/journalists" tells you that it's a terrible clickbait article.

[QUOTE=Killuah;45935471]It doesn't confirm anything and the way it uses "Phil Fish" instead of "numerous indie scene devs/journalists" tells you that it's a terrible clickbait article.[/QUOTE] considering how the only news the past weeks has been "games journalism is a joke" I think it's hilarious everyone here is taking these things seriously without a shred of concrete proof.

So is the FBI actually involved in this whole mess now somehow?