10 Month Toyota Investigation: No Fault With Electronic Throttles
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[url=http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/08/autos/nhtsa_nasa_toyota_final_report/index.htm]CNN Money:[/url]
[quote]NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- An intensive 10 month investigation into possible causes of unintended acceleration in Toyota cars found no fault with the automaker's electronic throttle control systems, the Department of Transportation announced Tuesday.
So far there are three known causes of unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles: [b]improperly installed floor mats, sticky pedals, and driver error.[/b]
U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said, "We enlisted the best and brightest engineers to study Toyota's electronics systems, and the verdict is in. There is no electronic-based cause for unintended high-speed acceleration in Toyotas."
NHTSA enlisted the help of NASA scientists and engineers. The agency said their expertise in areas such as computer controlled electronic systems, electromagnetic interference and software integrity would be a big help.
Despite a string of recalls for other problems, Toyota has long insisted that the electronic controls in its cars are safe.
"We believe this rigorous scientific analysis by some of America's foremost engineers should further reinforce confidence in the safety of Toyota and Lexus vehicles," Toyota's chief quality officer Steve St. Angelo said in a company statement.
Toyota recalled nearly 8 million vehicles in 2008 and 2009 for defects related to gas pedals -- including sticky pedals and floor mat obstruction -- as a result of complaints of unwanted acceleration.
So far, those two problems remain the only known causes of unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles, NHTSA said.
But NHTSA also mentioned another possible cause: drivers pushing the gas instead of the brakes.
Many drivers may have confused the gas and brake pedals a problem that may account for "the vast majority" of the unintended acceleration incidents the agency investigated, NHTSA deputy administrator Ron Medford said at Tuesday's NHTSA press briefing.
"What mostly happened was pedal misapplication where the driver stepped on the gas instead of the brake or in addition to the brake," Medford said.
[b]"Unintended acceleration is not exclusive to Toyotas," Medford said, pointing out that two-thirds of the unintended acceleration reports the agency has received in recent years involved vehicles by other automakers.[/b]
"I think this is good news for people who own Toyotas," said David Champion, head of auto testing for Consumer Reports magazine, "They can breathe a sigh of relief."
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[url=http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/02/08/business/AP-US-Toyota-Recalls.html?hp]New York Times[/url]
So it took a 10 month report to figure out that sometimes drivers are complete dumb asses and accidentally push the wrong pedal.
[QUOTE=Best4bond;27952109]So it took a 10 month report to figure out that sometimes drivers are complete dumb asses and accidentally push the wrong pedal.[/QUOTE]
It isn't the first time either.
It's funny that people are reporting sticking pedals in the [b]idle[/b] position on new 2011 honda CRV's.
There are multiple discussions on the internet of the cars not slowing down once letting off the gas withe he accelerator in the idle position.
I don't, and would never believe what Toyota says ever again.
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Or Honda either.
[quote]"What mostly happened was pedal misapplication where the driver stepped on the gas instead of the brake or in addition to the brake," Medford said.[/quote]
this needs to be bolded as well
People actually used "IT'S NOT ME IT'S THE COMPUTER'S FAULT" on insurance claims?
[QUOTE=>VLN<;27952447]It's funny that people are reporting sticking pedals in the [b]idle[/b] position on new 2011 honda CRV's.
There are multiple discussions on the internet of the cars not slowing down once letting off the gas withe he accelerator in the idle position.
I don't, and would never believe what Toyota says ever again.
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Or Honda either.[/QUOTE]
Ever heard of error code ID10T ??
That's the cause to 99,9% of all these so called "problems"
Wanna know why? because it's elderly people who happens to be the primary buyers of all the affected Toyota's, and we all know they don't know when it's time to hand in their drivers license.
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[QUOTE=Nerts;27953054]People actually used "IT'S NOT ME IT'S THE COMPUTER'S FAULT" on insurance claims?[/QUOTE]
You're in for a big surprise if you think they're not.
Isn't there and .sfw for Toyota cars?
I fucking knew it! Once the words "unintended acceleration" hit the media, every jackass that ever hit the wrong pedal and wrecked their car could smell blood in the water and went looking for a settlement check.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;27960329]I fucking knew it! Once the words "unintended acceleration" hit the media, every jackass that ever hit the wrong pedal and wrecked their car could smell blood in the water and went looking for a settlement check.[/QUOTE]
you're just saying that to boost sales.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;27952447]It's funny that people are reporting sticking pedals in the [b]idle[/b] position on new 2011 honda CRV's.
There are multiple discussions on the internet of the cars not slowing down once letting off the gas withe he accelerator in the idle position.
I don't, and would never believe what Toyota says ever again.
[editline]9th February 2011[/editline]
Or Honda either.[/QUOTE]
Those yellow-bellied japs can never be trusted.
Really people?
[QUOTE=>VLN<;27952447]
I don't, and would never believe what Toyota says ever again.
[editline]9th February 2011[/editline]
Or Honda either.[/QUOTE]
Good job boycotting two of the best auto makers
this is why automatics are dangerous and should be banned
[QUOTE=abcpea2;27961261]this is why automatics are dangerous and should be banned[/QUOTE]
Don't give Australia's government any ideas
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