• Chinese Scientists Announce 'Safe' Way To Create Stem Cells
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[quote] The method, was published in the U.S. journal Science. In it, the Chinese scientists discuss how a medley of small-molecule compounds were used to reprogram somatic cells to a pluripotent state. [/quote] [url=http://www.designntrend.com/articles/6317/20130719/chinese-scientists-announce-safe-way-create-stem-cells.htm]Source[/url]
Chinese-"Safe"
I wonder if this more beneficial result is because Chinese scientists aren't as obligated to meet the profitability requirements of pharmaceutical corporations and the health industry as Western ones might be. [editline]21st July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Nikota;41548360]Chinese-"Safe"[/QUOTE] Congratulations, it only took one post to make you look like a moron.
[QUOTE=archangel125;41548365]I wonder if this more beneficial result is because Chinese scientists aren't as obligated to meet the profitability requirements of pharmaceutical corporations and the health industry as Western ones might be. [editline]21st July 2013[/editline] Congratulations, it only took one post to make you look like a moron.[/QUOTE] Congratulations, it only took two posts to make you look like a bigpharma theorist.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;41548377]Congratulations, it only took two posts to make you look like a bigpharma theorist.[/QUOTE] He's actually right, almost all pharmaceutical advancements are in the name of profit, and if something won't sell right, then it's either artificially scarce, or the price is raised way the fuck up.
[QUOTE=archangel125;41548365]I wonder if this more beneficial result is because Chinese scientists aren't as obligated to meet the profitability requirements of pharmaceutical corporations and the health industry as Western ones might be. [editline]21st July 2013[/editline] Congratulations, it only took one post to make you look like a moron.[/QUOTE] And China does less testing and pushes out any results faster, along with having extremely under qualified researches due to their shitty education system that favors numbers and pure memorization over actually teaching. It's reasonable to question Chinese results in scientific fields, all things considered, they have a lot worse education system than the west does and they're extremely fault prone.
[QUOTE=Nikota;41548400]And China does less testing and pushes out any results faster, along with having extremely under qualified researches due to their shitty education system that favors numbers and pure memorization over actually teaching. It's reasonable to question Chinese results in scientific fields, all things considered, they have a lot worse education system than the west does and they're extremely fault prone.[/QUOTE] Are you trolling at the moment?
[QUOTE=Nikota;41548400]And China does less testing and pushes out any results faster, along with having extremely under qualified researches due to their shitty education system that favors numbers and pure memorization over actually teaching. It's reasonable to question Chinese results in scientific fields, all things considered, [b]they have a lot worse education system[/b] than the west does and they're extremely fault prone.[/QUOTE] How so?
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;41548454]How so?[/QUOTE] It wasn't that part that bothered me, because maybe they do have a worse education system and questioning it is all normal. But this, to be frank utterly retarded generalization "[I]having extremely under qualified researches due to their shitty education system that favors numbers and pure memorization over actually teaching[/I]".
Seriously. The Chinese education system is more of a joke than the American public education system and I have to question all major results that come out of the country. Bribery, along with completely killing individual thought are a main and fundamental arm of their universities and high schools. Their education system completely kills critical thinking skills. This article gives some insight. [URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/justin-cash/chinese-education-problem_b_2720690.html[/URL] [url]http://business.time.com/2013/06/27/china-just-as-desperate-for-education-reform-as-the-u-s/[/url]
[QUOTE=Nikota;41548471]Seriously. The Chinese education system is more of a joke than the American public education system and I have to question all major results that come out of the country. Bribery, along with completely killing individual thought are a main and fundamental arm of their universities and high schools. Their education system completely kills critical thinking skills.[/QUOTE] "published in the U.S. journal Science" Does that say anything to you? [editline]22nd July 2013[/editline] do you even know what peer reviewing is? Edit: You're acting as if the entire nation consists of mindless drones. And yet we see results as the one in the article. They probably have a problem with their education, but that does not mean that good results can't be produced. Instead of reading up individual analyses, check on how much scientific progress China is doing on a global scale etc... [url]http://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php[/url]
Oh and also, they did this in California three years ago. [url]http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/turning-somatic-cells-into-pluripotent-stem-cells-14431451[/url]
[QUOTE=Swebonny;41548484]"published in the U.S. journal Science" Does that say anything to you? [editline]22nd July 2013[/editline] do you even know what peer reviewing is?[/QUOTE] just because it was done on a dock doesn't mean it science
So yeah, glad to see that these guys managed to replicate American research.
[QUOTE=Nikota;41548520]Oh and also, they did this in California three years ago. [url]http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/turning-somatic-cells-into-pluripotent-stem-cells-14431451[/url][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The previous method of accomplishing this had been extremely complicated--and as a result of that complication, limited the clinical uses of such cells. This new method however has no such drawback. Professor Deng Hongkui of Peking University. the leader of the Chinese team, said in their study that his team validated "a whole new route" to pluripotent stem cells. Unlike mice generated through previous methods, the mice generated from CiPSCs were "100 percent viable and apparently healthy for up to 6 months," the Chinese team wrote. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Swebonny;41548484]"published in the U.S. journal Science" Does that say anything to you? [editline]22nd July 2013[/editline] do you even know what peer reviewing is? Edit: You're acting as if the entire nation consists of mindless drones. And yet we see results as the one in the article. They probably have a problem with their education, but that does not mean that good results can't be produced. Instead of reading up individual analyses, check on how much scientific progress China is doing on a global scale etc... [url]http://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php[/url][/QUOTE] I'm seeing a bizarre lack of citations and citations per document by volume compared to almost every other major country on the list.
[QUOTE=Nikota;41548550]So yeah, glad to see that these guys managed to replicate American research.[/QUOTE] Read the article.
why did you have to include chinese in the title now all this thread is going to be is people arguing about whether or not the chinese scientists are better than american scientists
[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;41549828]why did you have to include chinese in the title now all this thread is going to be is people arguing about whether or not the chinese scientists are better than american scientists[/QUOTE] Why should it matter were one kind, humans.
[QUOTE=Nikota;41548400]And China does less testing and pushes out any results faster, along with having extremely under qualified researches due to their shitty education system that favors numbers and pure memorization over actually teaching. It's reasonable to question Chinese results in scientific fields, all things considered, they have a lot worse education system than the west does and they're extremely fault prone.[/QUOTE] Yeah! Plus, they eat dogs! Talk about [I]gross![/I] It's, like, [I]JEEZ, China! Get with it![/I] I'll tell you one thing right now: you can't manipulate molecules with chopsticks. Am I right, brother? You bet I am. Say, I didn't see you at the last convention for the senseless, offensive, and ignorant. Were you just not able to make it down, or what?
[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;41549828]why did you have to include chinese in the title now all this thread is going to be is people arguing about whether or not the chinese scientists are better than american scientists[/QUOTE] chinese scientists are better than american scientists because they actually exist
[QUOTE=Nikota;41548471]Seriously. The Chinese education system is more of a joke than the American public education system and I have to question all major results that come out of the country. Bribery, along with completely killing individual thought are a main and fundamental arm of their universities and high schools.[/QUOTE]The whole bribery thing is actually true. While the American public education system is [i]by no means the same from state-to-state[/i] and we do have some really bad schools in the country, the Chinese have it pretty bad. I mean, you could be like, oh, Liberia and have basically no education system, but yeah. I'm not sure the scientific community in China is as bad as you're making it out, though. They have done some hilariously retarded things, but come on, that's just going to happen from time to time. I can think of quite a few things the UK scientific community has done that was just as silly.[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;41548545]just because it was done on a dock doesn't mean it science[/QUOTE]Oh, you say that, but you don't even know about the underground fishermen science labs across the world. They come up with all sorts of things, using nothing but nets and fish and things like that. I don't actually know personally, but I'm sure that's a thing.
So we don't have to use pure baby anymore?
[quote]the Chinese scientists discuss how a medley of small-molecule compounds were used to reprogram somatic cells to a pluripotent state.[/quote] Can anyone who reads Chinese translate 'somatic' and 'plutipotent' into English please? I'd like to know what they're talking about. Every time I try to translate those words online it just gives me the same word back, so I need help.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;41559236]Can anyone who reads Chinese translate 'somatic' and 'plutipotent' into English please? I'd like to know what they're talking about. Every time I try to translate those words online it just gives me the same word back, so I need help.[/QUOTE] Somatic cells are specialized. Pluripotent cells are undifferentiated.
[QUOTE=Nikota;41548578]I'm seeing a bizarre lack of citations and citations per document by volume compared to almost every other major country on the list.[/QUOTE] why do i get this feeling that you just [I]really[/I] dislike chinese people
[QUOTE=archangel125;41548365] Congratulations, it only took one post to make you look like a moron.[/QUOTE] Considering the scandal with modifying viruses in a veterinary clinic, It's not exactly unwarranted.
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