• Trump reacts to Muslim soldier father Khizr Khan's rebuke
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[URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36935175"]http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36935175[/URL] [quote]US Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has responded to criticism from the father of a Muslim US soldier killed in Iraq. In an impassioned speech at last week's Democratic National Convention, Khizr Khan said Mr Trump had sacrificed "nothing and no-one" for his country. Mr Trump said he had made "a lot of sacrifices" by creating jobs. But he drew more controversy by mocking Mr Khan's wife, who had stood silently by her husband's side as he spoke. "If you look at his wife, she was standing there," he said, in an interview with ABC's This Week. "She had nothing to say... Maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me." Ghazala Khan said on Friday that she did not speak because she was still overcome with grief and could not look at her son's photos without crying.[/quote] Can he literally not reply to criticism with insulting someone back? That's a pretty ridiculous statement to make and it makes his statement worse in everyway.
[quote]"While I feel deeply for the loss of his son, Mr Khan, who has never met me, has no right to stand in front of millions of people and claim I have never read the Constitution, (which is false) and say many other inaccurate things," he said.[/quote] You also have no right to fool the American public the way you have and to take advantage of desperate people who feel the system is stacked against them, and you have no right to call yourself a supporter of the people when in reality all you're doing is using them for your own ends, you narcissistic sociopath.
what a cunt. their child is dead for a cause he supports and he taunts them.
Why is he attacking Trump when Hillary is more responsible for his son's death, if he has to blame someone.
[QUOTE=wystan;50804501]Why is he attacking Trump when Hillary is more responsible for his son's death, if he has to blame someone.[/QUOTE] -the point -your head Do you have to blindly defend trump literally being i gigantic racist and absolutely toxic person?
[QUOTE=wystan;50804501]Why is he attacking Trump when Hillary is more responsible for his son's death, if he has to blame someone.[/QUOTE] "Humayun Khan was killed by a car bomb in 2004 at the age of 27." Did you even read the article, or are you going to keep blaming things on Clinton for no reason?
btw, for those who might think trump is telling the truth saying the man's wife is dominated cause shes a muslim and thats why shes not talking [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-wife-ghazala.html[/url] [quote]Ms. Khan did speak on Friday to MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell,[B] saying she “cannot even come in the room where his pictures are.”[/B] [B]When she saw her son’s photograph on the screen behind her on the stage in Philadelphia, she said, “I couldn’t take it.”[/B] “I controlled myself at that time,” she said, while choking back tears. “It is very hard.”[/quote] it wasnt because she was being controlled by her evil muslim husband, it was because shes still grieving and depressed over the death of her fucking son trump is scum
[QUOTE=codemaster85;50804510]-the point -your head Do you have to blindly defend trump literally being i gigantic racist and absolutely toxic person?[/QUOTE] If you think Trump is a racist you're more blind than you think I am [QUOTE=BlackMageMari;50804511]"Humayun Khan was killed by a car bomb in 2004 at the age of 27." Did you even read the article, or are you going to keep blaming things on Clinton for no reason?[/QUOTE] I'm just saying I feel his anger or message is misdirected.
[QUOTE=wystan;50804518]If you think Trump is a racist you're more blind than you think I am I'm just saying I feel his anger or message is misdirected.[/QUOTE] hes not pissed at trump or clinton that his son is dead, he most likely blames terrorists for than anyone else hes pissed that trump would ban his fellow muslims out of fear even though his son was one and died for his country, its pissing on all muslim servicemen and those that sacrificed their lives
[QUOTE=wystan;50804518]If you think Trump is a racist you're more blind than you think I am I'm just saying I feel his anger or message is misdirected.[/QUOTE] Then say that instead of blaming Clinton, and maybe we'll acknowledge it. :downs:
[QUOTE=wystan;50804518]I'm just saying I feel his anger or message is misdirected.[/QUOTE] "Why is he attacking Trump when Hillary is more responsible for his son's death, if he has to blame someone." You weren't' just saying his anger is misdirected, you implied Clinton was in some way responsible for his son's death, which is frankly not true. He's angry not because his son died fighting for the US, he's angry his son died fighting for the US because of what he believed in and now Trump wants to remove and destroy that, going against fundamental parts of the constitution. The fact that Trump keeps peddling his 'Muslims are bad mmmmmkkky' rhetoric despite the fact the vast majority of Muslims in the US follow the laws and US culture, and have died defending it, and when challenged over it immediately mocks his challengers, is disgusting. There's no way you can defend that.
Fucking scumbag. I've never despised a politician as much as I do this man, and his supporters will come swarming out to go, "B-B-BUT HILLARY!!!" Fuck them and fuck Trump. Sometimes I wish I wasn't in the military, just so I could leave if he got elected. I refuse to accept that he might even become president, and the fact that half the nation is ushering him forward is just a sign of how fucked our country is becoming.
I'm so amazed that trump has gotten this far and there's an actual possibility he can become president
[QUOTE=Araknid;50804570]I'm so amazed that trump has gotten this far and there's an actual possibility he can become president[/QUOTE] To think this orange toupeed specimen even had negative approval as a candidate from within his own party, now they support him for lack of any other candidates. A combination of factors, and a lot of luck, all combined to push him into the Presidential race. Trump may be a sociopath, but he knew how to draw the public to him by appealing to the lowest common denominator of the population, as well as the truly desperate who (somehow) see their problems being solved if he gets elected. What they don't understand is they're being used for their votes and will be tossed aside like discarded dishrags once he gets into the Oval Office, and stand to suffer the most from any of his policies which might be implemented. And that's to say nothing of the foreign policy damage or the catastrophic meddling he will cause by choosing likeminded SCOTUS Chief Justices, which will undo all the work the Democrats had done for it previously.
He is utterly shameful. To even compare giving money away as a sacrifice to giving your life serving your country is frankly disgusting. He's a vile, repugnant man who only cares about himself and his money. I read Mr kahn's speech earlier today, and to see Trump's reply, gave me a feeling close to physical sickness (I can't even describe it) that I don't think any politician has ever managed. The sheer collousness of him. We've got some nasty politicians here and I don't like to get involve in the politics of other nations, but Trump is something else altogether. And he's not even on the fringes, he could potentially be the leader of the most powerful nation on earth and the free world. It's genuinely frightening.
[QUOTE=wystan;50804518]If you think Trump is a racist you're more blind than you think I am I'm just saying I feel his anger or message is misdirected.[/QUOTE] its krooked hillary guys!!! even tho it happened in 2004 when it was george bush who was in power, but ignore that, its krooked hillary!!!!!!! even tho the secretary of state wasnt even hillary, but SHHHh its KROOKED HILLARY!
[QUOTE=Maadz;50804644]its krooked hillary guys!!! even tho it happened in 2004 when it was george bush who was in power, but ignore that, its krooked hillary!!!!!!! even tho the secretary of state wasnt even hillary, but SHHHh its KROOKED HILLARY![/QUOTE] By 2004, Trump's stance on the Invasion of Iraq was well documented and he was clearly against it. Hillary was in favor of it, so I mean there is a case to be made here. Leave it to Trump though to be an absolute idiot and never able to get in front of Hillary without stirring up his own stupid controversies. This election is gonna be like a seesaw of controversies leading up to election day, fuck.
[quote] But he drew more controversy by mocking Mr Khan's wife, who had stood silently by her husband's side as he spoke. "If you look at his wife, she was standing there," he said, in an interview with ABC's This Week. "She had nothing to say... Maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me." [b]Ghazala Khan said on Friday that she did not speak because she was still overcome with grief and could not look at her son's photos without crying.[/b][/quote] I am convinced that it takes a misanthrope or a psychopath to read this and not be guilt-ridden enough to apologize immediately for insulting a grieving mother.
Trump is simply too narcissistic to shut his stupid mouth. One thing is saying that the guy doesn't know him, and that his points are inaccurate, but then attack him on the basis of his wife... Seriously he's just a total fuckface.
[QUOTE=wystan;50804518]If you think Trump is a racist you're more blind than you think I am [/QUOTE] "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. ... And some, I assume, are good people" "The wall will go up and Mexico will start behaving" “Laziness is a trait in the blacks. ... Black guys counting my money! I hate it.” “The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yamakas every day.” Source: [url]http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#8[/url]
[QUOTE=Redcoat893;50804939]"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. ... And some, I assume, are good people" "The wall will go up and Mexico will start behaving" “Laziness is a trait in the blacks. ... Black guys counting my money! I hate it.” “The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yamakas every day.” Source: [url]http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#8[/url][/QUOTE] Also before wystan says something about the first statement being true, it's not. Illegal and legal immigrants are less likely to commit any crime than American Nationals
What a glorious year we live in when a man who openly insults the grieving parents of a soldier is a candidate for presidency.
[QUOTE] Mr Trump said he had made "a lot of sacrifices" by creating jobs. [/QUOTE] What the hell does Trump think a sacrifice is? Sure if he spends money or 'sacrifices' employees for the good of business, that might be called a 'sacrifice', but is he really, [B]really[/B] comparing his business decisions to family members risking and giving their life and limb in the military? Is he really putting business sacrifices on the same pedestal as your son dying for the US? Holy shit.
imagine being a Trump supporter and being able to live with yourself
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;50805144]imagine being a Trump supporter and being able to live with yourself[/QUOTE] Imagine being a disheartened Bernie supporter and thinking Trump might be a good alternative. Imagine the sort of reasoning such a leap requires.
[QUOTE=Doozle;50805180]Imagine being a disheartened Bernie supporter and thinking Trump might be a good alternative. Imagine the sort of reasoning such a leap requires.[/QUOTE] Imagine how bullshit our system is that these are our candidates. Oh. We don't have to imagine it I mean I like the fact that Trump's an outsider and not part of the political inner circle and just throws political correctness out the window. Those are two awesome qualities. But look what else it comes with my GOD. Then over here we have Hillary who honestly should walk out in a fireproof suit with sponsorship logos all over it so you can look and see 'Yep that's why she said that, It's on her shoulder' Luckily it doesn't really matter much who's president these days. Unless they go back to signing 240+ executive orders a year rather than 20, it really doesn't
Imagine the 2016 US presidential election being a shitshow. Oh wait.
[QUOTE=wystan;50804518]If you think Trump is a racist you're more blind than you think I am [/QUOTE] Yea the man who was sued because he refused to rent to black people, who said he hates black people counting his money, who took out a full page ad calling for the death penalty against a group of black teenagers wrongly convicted through forced confession of rape, and took lead of the birther movement to prove that the black president somehow managed to lie about his nationality all the way up to the white house. He's not racist at all. Source [url]http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/[/url]
[QUOTE=Selek;50805137]What the hell does Trump think a sacrifice is? Sure if he spends money or 'sacrifices' employees for the good of business, that might be called a 'sacrifice', but is he really, [B]really[/B] comparing his business decisions to family members risking and giving their life and limb in the military? Is he really putting business sacrifices on the same pedestal as your son dying for the US? Holy shit.[/QUOTE] Legally speaking corporations are people, so it follows that Donald Trumps companies are like his children, and when he purposely bankrupts a company it is like sacrificing a child. He knows their pain, he is a grieving parent too.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;50805396]I mean I like the fact that Trump's an outsider and not part of the political inner circle and just throws political correctness out the window. Those are two awesome qualities. But look what else it comes with my GOD. Then over here we have Hillary who honestly should walk out in a fireproof suit with sponsorship logos all over it so you can look and see 'Yep that's why she said that, It's on her shoulder' Luckily it doesn't really matter much who's president these days. Unless they go back to signing 240+ executive orders a year rather than 20, it really doesn't[/QUOTE] First off, Trump has never been a political outsider other than the fact he's never held political office. He was extremely close to the Clintions for years. He likely has funded lobby groups arguing for him in the past. He's a billionaire for god's sakes, he most definitely is part of the establishment. I don't see why you think that political correctness is a terrible trait either - a lot of the time the 'political correctness' Trump throws out of the window is actually not being a racist, secterain dick. It's an especially terrible trait to have when dealing with foreign leaders. Second, it most absolutely does matter who's President these days. They appoint judges to the Supreme Court, who have played a huge role in the past in liberalising the country - in defeating segregation laws, passing gay rights laws, determining the constitutionality of a wide range of measures (such as those in the New Deal, etc.) The President is also the number one diplomat of the United States and a very important figurehead - s/he's the one everyone thinks about when you mention leaders of the United States. Not the secretary of state, not the Vice President, not anyone else - the President. And as you've mentioned, executive orders are quite the power. Don't forget either that the President ultimately has the word on many of the actions of wars. You're broadly right though - the American system is broken. Neither Clinton nor Trump should be President - but if I had to choose (and I don't have to, due to being Irish), I'd choose Clinton every time. At-least her party has sane policies.
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