really, he couldnt have gone with anything more interesting than this tripe of a game?
Watching Ross play Life is Strange to me is like watching a hairy, manly man talk about My Little Pony for half an hour.
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I forgot just how much my soul hurts when i hear this dialogue.
Every hella makes me physically recoil in disgust.
[QUOTE=LeonS;52773955]really, he couldnt have gone with anything more interesting than this tripe of a game?[/QUOTE]
"hey guys, I absolutely hate this thing. doesn't really have to do with much, just figured I'd put it out there."
[QUOTE=milktree;52774325]"hey guys, I absolutely hate this thing. doesn't really have to do with much, just figured I'd put it out there."[/QUOTE]
now why am i not allowed to voice an opinion like that? why do all comments in a thread have to be positive? i wasnt aware that this was a one-way street. and "doesnt really have to do with much"? really? me disliking a game and voicing it in a thread that is about a man who made a video regarding said game is irrelevant?
[QUOTE=LeonS;52773955]really, he couldnt have gone with anything more interesting than this tripe of a game?[/QUOTE]
Oh yea, time manipulation in a college setting with [sp]kidnapping and murder[/sp] isn't remotely interesting at all.
[QUOTE=LeonS;52774336]now why am i not allowed to voice an opinion like that? why do all comments in a threat have to be positive? i wasnt aware that this was a one-way street. and "doesnt really have to do with much"? really? me disliking a game and voicing it in a thread that is about a man who made a video regarding said game is irrelevant?[/QUOTE]
maybe you should've phrased it without sounding so butthurt then
[QUOTE=LeonS;52774336]now why am i not allowed to voice an opinion like that? why do all comments in a threat have to be positive? i wasnt aware that this was a one-way street. and "doesnt really have to do with much"? really? me disliking a game and voicing it in a thread that is about a man who made a video regarding said game is irrelevant?[/QUOTE]
Because you didn't watch the video (you posted 7 minutes after the OP in a 30 minute video). Your post has nothing to do with the video or its content in reality, because you might have been surprised about his opinion and maybe have agreed with it
But you fucked it to look like an asshole in attempting to prove a point.
[QUOTE=Keychain;52774338]Oh yea, time manipulation in a college setting with [sp]kidnapping and murder[/sp] isn't remotely interesting at all.[/QUOTE]
Like he says in the video, the base plot is probably pretty interesting, especially from what you're describing. He even says theres a chance he might have liked the later story.
However, it's steeped in a huge load of teen drama, hipster culture, forced dumb choices (Im going to take a selfie while the teacher's looking at me!), and loads of irrelevant interactions. Ross (and myself) can't stand that shit.
Granted I was willing to give the hipster stuff and teen drama a pass to get to the good stuff, but I stopped playing after Max met the blue haired girl later THAT SAME DAY and didnt recognize her from the bathroom where she saw her GET SHOT.
That kind of player/protagonist disconnect pisses me off.
[QUOTE=spazthemax;52774372]forced dumb choices (Im going to take a selfie while the teacher's looking at me!).[/QUOTE]
lol this is hardly a dumb forced choice and if you played through the game you'd know exactly why they had you do this
[QUOTE=Keychain;52774383]lol this is hardly a dumb forced choice and if you played through the game you'd know exactly why they had you do this[/QUOTE]
I played about an hour of the demo. Does Max have a condition where she cant not take constant selfies?
No need to dumb me, it was a serious question. I played it a few months ago. Does the teacher encourage this? I dont recall anyone mentioning that but he seems like the type that might.
Holy hell this game's dialog. And I love how games always say the decisions matter and then you have no decisions.
Eugh I can't stand teen drama, that is one of the big things that ruined the second AVP movie.
[QUOTE=spazthemax;52774372]Granted I was willing to give the hipster stuff and teen drama a pass to get to the good stuff, but I stopped playing after Max met the blue haired girl later THAT SAME DAY and didnt recognize her from the bathroom where she saw her GET SHOT.[/QUOTE]
She just didn't recognized her as Chloe in the bathroom, and that's why she's surprised. They know each other.
[QUOTE=spazthemax;52774401]I played about an hour of the demo. Does Max have a condition where she cant not take constant selfies?
No need to dumb me, it was a serious question. I played it a few months ago. Does the teacher encourage this? I dont recall anyone mentioning that but he seems like the type that might.[/QUOTE]
[sp]max discovers that if she has a photograph in her hand, she's capable of reversing time to the point when that photo was taken. it comes in handy later on but it's not instantly a game-ender or anything. it actually causes the situation to get even more complicated at first[/sp]
[editline]13th October 2017[/editline]
[sp]lets just say that she reverses time to the very beginning of the game in order to escape a situation. but this allows you to view your surroundings from a completely different perspective. the scenario is exactly the same, but you know the true intentions of the people around you, and you know the fate of others. but max has to decide on how to approach this and it causes the fabrics of time and space to tear even more [/sp]
[QUOTE=Keychain;52774433][sp]max discovers that if she has a photograph in her hand, she's capable of reversing time to the point when that photo was taken. it comes in handy later on but it's not instantly a game-ender or anything. it actually causes the situation to get even more complicated at first[/sp]
[editline]13th October 2017[/editline]
[sp]lets just say that she reverses time to the very beginning of the game in order to escape a situation. but this allows you to view your surroundings from a completely different perspective. the scenario is exactly the same, but you know the true intentions of the people around you, and you know the fate of others. but max has to decide on how to approach this and it causes the fabrics of time and space to tear even more [/sp][/QUOTE]
Everything in this post convinces me I would have liked the game if the other points I mentioned hadnt thrown me off so much. Thats a really cool mechanic and I like how it affects the plot.
But that just makes me think she took the photo because the plot compelled her to, which is kinda awkward writing. I still cant justify taking a selfie with the flash on while the teacher is looking over the class. Especially since Max doesnt know the significance of it at the time.
[QUOTE=Keychain;52774338]Oh yea, time manipulation in a college setting with [sp]kidnapping and murder[/sp] isn't remotely interesting at all.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was a high school?
[QUOTE=spazthemax;52774492]But that just makes me think she took the photo because the plot compelled her to, which is kinda awkward writing. I still cant justify taking a selfie with the flash on while the teacher is looking over the class. Especially since Max doesnt know the significance of it at the time.[/QUOTE]
She's clearly trying to take it stealthily under her desk, looking confused after she forgot the flash on.
[QUOTE=LeonS;52774336]now why am i not allowed to voice an opinion like that? why do all comments in a threat have to be positive? i wasnt aware that this was a one-way street. and "doesnt really have to do with much"? really? me disliking a game and voicing it in a thread that is about a man who made a video regarding said game is irrelevant?[/QUOTE]
For starters, it would help if you said anything other than just "it's tripe". Why do you believe this? What would you have done better? As it stands, your inflammatory remark doesn't serve any constructive purpose, so don't act so surprised that everyone is treating you like an ignoramus.
[QUOTE=Talvy;52774510]She's clearly trying to be stealthy by taking it at a low angle from under her desk, but forgetting the flash on and opening her mouth in confusion.[/QUOTE]
Fair point, but Id still ask why she feels the need to take selfie at that moment. Maybe thats just a personal disconnect.
As for not recognizing Chloe in the bathroom, I get that the plot says she doesnt recognize her for a reason. I just think it's a hard pill to swallow when we're getting solely Max's perspective in this narrative and there is a key bit of information that we know and she doesn’t.
I think she mentioned her daily selfie quota. I mean, she's a photographer; but also a teenager.
As for that key bit of information, I don't think you get it: Max is surprised because Chloe turns out to be her old friend, who has completely changed since they last met.
They first get a good look at each other outside.
I mean, Life is Strange is a game I genuinely like, possibly against my own better judgement.
Doesn't stop me from making fun of the fuck-awful dialog in the first few episodes and the terrible, terrible endings.
[sp] Especially how either choice completely invalidates the things you've done throughout the game by either destroying the town and killing everyone, or rewinding time to before any of it even happens. [/sp]
I also love the soundtrack without the tiniest hint of irony. Except for To All Of You, coincidentally the same song that makes Ross turn the music off. That song can go fuck itself.
[QUOTE=Shalaska;52774622][sp] Especially how either choice completely invalidates the things you've done throughout the game by either destroying the town and killing everyone, or rewinding time to before any of it even happens. [/sp][/QUOTE]
I don't think I'll ever understand this line of thought. [sp]Max's memory isn't erased if she chooses to rewind back and sacrifice Chloe. All the lessons she learned along the way are still there, so she'll be a more proactive and understanding friend to Kate, Warren, Victoria etc moving forward. Oh, and the rapist murderers at her school are arrested. She lets go of the past in exchange for a brighter future.[/sp]
Yeah, [sp]Sacrifice Arcadia Bay[/sp] is a bad ending, but it only highlights the development shown in the other choice. It's more of a fail state than a legitimate conclusion, like choosing none of the above at the end of Mass Effect 3. I'm pretty confident [sp]Sacrifice Chloe[/sp] was written as the only canon ending from the beginning of the dev process, it just works so well that you don't really need another option.
[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;52774676]I don't think I'll ever understand this line of thought. [sp]Max's memory isn't erased if she chooses to rewind back and sacrifice Chloe. All the lessons she learned along the way are still there, so she'll be a more proactive and understanding friend to Kate, Warren, Victoria etc moving forward. Oh, and the rapist murderers at her school are arrested. She lets go of the past in exchange for a brighter future.[/sp]
Yeah, [sp]Sacrifice Arcadia Bay[/sp] is a bad ending, but it only highlights the development shown in the other choice. It's more of a fail state than a legitimate conclusion, like choosing none of the above at the end of Mass Effect 3. I'm pretty confident [sp]Sacrifice Chloe[/sp] was written as the only canon ending from the beginning of the dev process, it just works so well that you don't really need another option.[/QUOTE]
So, technically you [sp]don't really have decisions to make, because anything but that choice is a fail state?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Talvy;52774585]I think she mentioned her daily selfie quota. I mean, she's a photographer; but also a teenager.
As for that key bit of information, I don't think you get it: Max is surprised because Chloe turns out to be her old friend, who has completely changed since they last met.
They first get a good look at each other outside.[/QUOTE]
Daily selfie quota does a good job explaining why she'd have a selfie at some point that day. But in class with teacher steadily looking in her direction? There isnt a better moment?
As for recognizing Chloe, I do get it. I get that Max doesn't recognize Chloe in the bathroom because she's so different. However, we recognize Chloe later as the shot-in-the-bathroom girl even as a first time player. That is the problem. If the scene had been directed differently so that we, the player, didnt get a clear look at her, I wouldnt have a problem with it. If the player knows something, the POV character should know it too, unless there are multiple POV characters. It's more a directing problem than a writing problem.
[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;52774676][sp]Max's memory isn't erased if she chooses to rewind back and sacrifice Chloe. All the lessons she learned along the way are still there, so she'll be a more proactive and understanding friend to Kate, Warren, Victoria etc moving forward. Oh, and the rapist murderers at her school are arrested. She lets go of the past in exchange for a brighter future.[/sp] [/QUOTE]
[SP]This made me realize that she's still changing history. What makes Chloe so special her fate is set in stone?[/SP]
[QUOTE=gufu;52774695]So, technically you [sp]don't really have decisions to make, because anything but that choice is a fail state?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Sure you do, being able to choose how you interact with the world around you colors your understanding of the game and the universe it creates. The rewind mechanic, which lets you sample different routes throughout, helps you appreciate the variables more than most games. Even if you ultimately save a character, seeing them die in another timeline can reinforce your appreciation of them or remind you of the stakes involved in the conflict.
With games, it really is about the journey. I couldn't give two shits about the tacked on epilogues in the Dishonored or Fallout series, or the multiple (inconsequential) endings in Spec Ops, but the agency I'm given en route to those points is what makes those games so memorable to me.
[QUOTE=spazthemax;52774721]Daily selfie quota does a good job explaining why she'd have a selfie at some point that day. But in class with teacher steadily looking in her direction? There isnt a better moment?
As for recognizing Chloe, I do get it. I get that Max doesn't recognize Chloe in the bathroom because she's so different. However, we do, even as a first time player. That is the problem. If the scene had been directed differently so that we, the player, didnt get a clear look at her, I wouldnt have a problem with it. If the player knows something, the POV character should know it too, unless there are multiple POV characters. It's more a directing problem than a writing problem.[/QUOTE]
I'd say she's trying to distract herself in boredom. Teacher didn't notice the paper thrown at Kate anyway.
Can we recognize Chloe though? I thought we first see her in the bathroom. It's not like Max fails to realize it was her in the bathroom either, so I don't follow.
[QUOTE=gufu;52774501]I thought it was a high school?[/QUOTE]
you're right i keep getting it mixed up for some reason
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