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now that you've read the image, before i actually properly start. I'd like to say that this belongs in General Discussion not Drug Discussion, because I'm targeting the users here who are misinformed.
As a smoker myself, i try to not be biased when it comes to this, and be able to recognize the wrongs of both sides of the argument. I don't consider myself a stoner, however i do smoke 1-2 times or more a month.
[b]1: Marijuana is good for you.[/b]
This is, sort of true, but only under certain circumstances.
Marijuana can be a benefit to your physical health if you have an illness that it can aid, such as breast cancer, brain cancer, Alzheimer's, and, believe it or not, lung cancer.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis[/url]
Mentally, Marajuana can be a pro and a con to anyones mental health.
In the long term, it can make some people happier and more content with their lives, where as for others it can do the opposite. However, to achieve these results it requires long term (as in, over the course of 1-5 or more years) and daily use.
Needless to say, there is a very very very small portion of the population who have mental illnesses that can be 'activated' by marijuana. These people should never smoke it.
In the short term, it can make you more relaxed (in the a similar way having a beer or two on Friday after work will).
[b]2: Marijuana smoke is just as bad for you as tobacco smoke.[/b]
This is a complete misunderstanding. I've heard alot of people in general discussion say this.
The two plants are comprised of different chemicals, and as such will yield different results and produce different effects on your mental and physical being.
Marijuana does not cause cancer lung cancer. It doesn't have the cell mutating compounds that tobacco does.
[b]3: Weed makes people lazy. [/b]
This again, is circumstantial. There are good and bad people in any group. It's just that people tend to focus on the negatives more, and people like to stereotype others so they can judge easier.
My own father smoked weed twice a week for a decade in his 20's. While he did that, he became one of the most successful and most well known real-estate agents/developers in the city.
[b]4: Addictive-ness. [/b]
Marijuana produces no known or proven chemical dependency what so ever.
However, it is very habitual, and daily/near daily smokers will often feel like smoking it upon quitting in the same way many gamers feel like a game of TF2, or many people feel like watching TV at the end of the day. This goes in time as the habit fades.
[b][highlight]Final summation:[/b][/highlight]
Marijuana vs alcohol
Does no physical damage to your body - damages your liver, mouth and other things, can be a factor in some cancers.
Long term use can be a pro or con to your mental health - long term use will turn your brain to mush.
Small-large doses will relax you. Extremely large doses on low tolerances will green you out- medium-large doses will make you feel sick, and will give you a hangover.
Habitually additive - Chemically and habitually addictive.
To the average, occasional smoker, there are no positive or negative effects other than being relaxed.
[b]Thanks for reading[/b]
Weed doesn't cause cancer? Well shit, that's news to me. Do we have any sources here? I'm not too keen on taking a random forum poster's word on it. <nevermind, he posted sources, I am satisfied>
You burn something with carthenogens(unsure of spelling) in it, and your body isn't going to like it. I've heard similar "misconception things" and most stoners simply assume everyone is referring to smoking it through a bong. I have my doubts.
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[QUOTE=Galago;22816516]Weed doesn't cause cancer? Well shit, that's news to me. Do we have any sources here? I'm not too keen on taking a random forum poster's word on it.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis#Lung_cancer_and_chronic_obstructive_pulmonary_disease[/url]
[quote=credesniper]
You burn something with carcinogens(unsure of spelling) in it, and your body isn't going to like it. I've heard similar "misconception things" and most stoners simply assume everyone is referring to smoking it through a bong. I have my doubts.
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Marijuana has no carcinogens.
[quote=Mattofwiles]
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Don't shitpost in my thread please. Facepunch needs to punish shitposting like this more.
[QUOTE=credesniper;22816541]You burn something with carthenogens(unsure of spelling) in it, and your body isn't going to like it. I've heard similar "misconception things" and most stoners simply assume everyone is referring to smoking it through a bong. I have my doubts.[/QUOTE]
If you smoke pot, your body generally likes it. In fact, I daresay your body will like it pretty much no matter what once you actually get high.
Have any of you seem the picture of that guy who cut his face off and fed it to his dog while he was on weed? I'm not going to post it here, but it's seriously fucked up.
Pretty sure that was on LSD
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@thefly
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wait you said final summation?
to the GRADUAL REPORT
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;22816733]Have any of you seem the picture of that guy who cut his face off and fed it to his dog while he was on weed? I'm not going to post it here, but it's seriously fucked up.[/QUOTE]
Yeah... that's not Marijuana
Great thread btw.
Hey, on the picture it said marijuana.
Maybe that was just a one time thing, but seriously man, fuck off back to the drugs forum. We don't need this dirt here.
Oh hey it's that time of the month
The pot thread !
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;22816816]Hey, on the picture it said marijuana.[/QUOTE]
where did the picture originate. I highly doubt this, the effects of weed simply aren't strong enough to make you do this. If you smoked that much weed, you couldn't even stand up, let alone cut your god damned face off.
Also, to the two posters above, please Read the OP.
I still think it should only be USED(not sold) for medical purposes relating to cancer. Using it as an anti-depressent is silly. I know the word "drug" doesn't fit with marijuana, but I personally will still refer to it as so, because people use it as a substance to get high.
I just don't like the idea of marijuana being legal/easily obtainable.
[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;22816602]
Marijuana has no carcinogens.
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Not necessarily:
[QUOTE] The genotoxic effects of partially oxidized hydrocarbons created by burning either cannabis or tobacco have been widely examined as the likely source of genetic changes that lead to the carcinogenic state[/QUOTE][QUOTE]Smoke from tobacco and cannabis contains many of the same carcinogens and tumor promoters[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]However, cannabis and tobacco have additional pharmacological activities, both receptor-dependent and independent, that result in different biological endpoints. Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons found in smoke are pro-carcinogens that are converted to carcinogens by the enzymatic activity of the cytochrome P4501A1 oxidase protein (CYP1A1 gene product). Benzo [a] pyrene is converted to its carcinogenic metabolite diol epoxide, which binds to specific hyper-mutable nucleotide sequences in the K-ras oncogene and p53 tumor suppressor[/QUOTE][URL="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/"]Source[/URL]
Basically, the sudy goes on to say that cannabis smoke is far more carcinogenic than cigarette smoke, but due to other toxins, goes on to kill carcinogenic cells due to it's toxic nature.
When you smoke marijuana, you get high.
You say this is not a pro marijuana thread but what I just read is exactly that. You listed no cons to smoking marijuana.
Where are your sources to your "facts"
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;22816816]Hey, on the picture it said marijuana.
Maybe that was just a one time thing, but seriously man, fuck off back to the drugs forum. We don't need this dirt here.[/QUOTE]
No.
What's the point of educating drug users who already know Marijuana is safe?
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;22816884]You say this is not a pro marijuana thread but what I just read is exactly that. You listed no cons to smoking marijuana.
Where are your sources to your "facts"[/QUOTE]
Duhhhh marijuana has no cons it's perfect you should smoke it right nowwwwwwww
And you know this how? Like I said, it might of been a one time thing and to do with the guy taking it, but it happened.
Marijuana is known turn people psychotic and has been linked to many other mental illnesses. You stupid stoner fucks should really think about what you're putting into your body rather than reading about how [I]MARIJUANA HAS NO NEGETIVE EFFECTS LAWL[/I] from the same site that believes the moon landing was faked and that there was a shooter on the grassy knoll.
[QUOTE=credesniper;22816853]I still think it should only be USED(not sold) for medical purposes relating to cancer. Using it as an anti-depressent is silly. I know the word "drug" doesn't fit with marijuana, but I personally will still refer to it as so, because people use it as a substance to get high.
I just don't like the idea of marijuana being legal/easily obtainable.[/QUOTE]
Why not? Do you believe alcohol should be legal too?
The OP points out the pros/cons of it, and it's not as bad for you as alcohol. If you disagree, tell me why/if I've missed anything and back up why you feel that way.
By the way, weed is totally a drug. Saying it's not is stupid.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22816895]No.
What's the point of educating drug users who already know Marijuana is safe?[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha, educating Drug Users.
I would prefer people wanted it legal because it's a human right to do whatever you want with your own body as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;22816884]You say this is not a pro marijuana thread but what I just read is exactly that. You listed no cons to smoking marijuana.
Where are your sources to your "facts"[/QUOTE]
Dude, he posted the sources, and you should know by now the effects of alcohol.
Yeah guys come on, it's a common misconception that drugs are in any way good.
Why do people keep making threads about Marijuana outside drug discussion? They always end bad.
[QUOTE=Batmoutarde;22816902]Hahahaha, educating Drug Users.[/QUOTE]
They do get annoying, but they do have a point
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22816908]I would prefer people wanted it legal because it's a human right to do whatever you want with your own body as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else.[/QUOTE]
Thing is sometimes you do shit that will affect people without being totally conscious of yourself
Seriously, can a mod move this thread to the Drug Discussion forums?
[QUOTE=Hypothermic;22816922]Why do people keep making threads about Marijuana outside drug discussion? They always end bad.[/QUOTE]
Because they want to show people that Marijuana isn't bad for you
But in the end they aren't showing anyone anything they don't already know
And the people that denied it the first time will always deny it, because...i don't know
[QUOTE=Batmoutarde;22816931]Thing is sometimes you do shit that will affect people without being totally conscious of yourself[/QUOTE]
You can control yourself while high
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awww shit double post
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