OUR GENERATION SUMMED UP - General

i know it's facebook video trash [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hER0Qp6QJNU&t=1s[/media] but i'm really curious, people are just going 'yup that explains it' isn't this a load of bullshit?

Oh hey look it's MTV trying to gain attention again.

[QUOTE=343N;51616192]i know it's facebook video trash [media]https://youtu.be/9rbkr8ttgoo[/media][DEL][/DEL] but i'm really curious, people are just going 'yup that explains it' isn't this a load of bullshit?[/QUOTE] it's a generation of people who like shifting the blame really enjoying a video where a smart glasses man conveniently shifts the blame

The only decent point he had was that when you get likes and stuff on Facebook it triggers dopamine which can make using stuff like that addictive for some people. The rest of the video was dumb stereotypical "participation award my generation is wiser than the new one and smarter than the old one" bullshit.

You know what else triggers dopamine? Fun

The was fucking obnoxious.

Lots of people I know been sharing it. I feel like the only reason the guy keeps emphasizing that it's not our fault is cause people in general like hearing that, and so his audience keeps paying attention. I don't know if what he's saying is true or not, but I get some of the points he brought up like people being more needy to being accepted or lack of confidence because of obsessions with likes, but I'm skeptical and try to avoid falling into the trap of believing we're that much different than other generations because of tech. It sounds like the type of thing some people empathize with moreso than others.

[QUOTE=343N;51616192]i know it's facebook video trash [media]https://youtu.be/9rbkr8ttgoo[/media][DEL][/DEL] but i'm really curious, people are just going 'yup that explains it' isn't this a load of bullshit?[/QUOTE] This generation is the same as any other.

Hey MTV, stop trying to be hip and relevant and start showing music again.

old man shakes fist at cloud

HEY guys DAE think that this generation is JUST the WORST!?

It's always older generations complaining about participation trophies or telling kids "you can do anything." It's not like we were giving these ribbons to ourselves...Do they really think the blame is on the kids instead of who raised them?

[QUOTE=dewd11;51619963]It's always older generations complaining about participation trophies or telling kids "you can do anything." It's not like we were giving these ribbons to ourselves...Do they really think the blame is on the kids instead of who raised them?[/QUOTE] It doesn't show in OP's video but this guy makes a point to repeatedly say that it's not the millennial's fault.

hi i'm 19 here are some jumbled thoughts and points + instant gratification thing seems to ring true, although I've only really noticed it in people who send me invites, update their profile picture a lot and that sort of thing. you can tell which 'little rewards' some people enjoy most on facebook. I think the later this is introduced in to your life, the less effect it's going to have on you - I've been using facebook since 13 and I've only just recently been able to 'un-learn' the subconscious yearn for likes on a picture or something like that. Alternatively, if I'm wrong, perhaps addictions to likes/invites is purely something facilitated by having a young brain and the next generation'll just 'sort of grow out of it' too. + Blaming his generation for perceived millennial laziness, I feel, detracts from your average facebook teen or whatever taking away the real messages from this video. Yet again using myself as anecdotal evidence here because it's 5am and this is an internet forum, I just feel as if two years ago, having been less educated and willing to listen than I am now, I would've gone 'yep, their fault, not mine!' and closed the video instantly without trying to figure out what this Simon Sinek guy's trying to say. Yeah, your generation didn't exactly pave the easiest way in for us - but we're probably not going to do much better ourselves. Focus on the future. I feel as if lazy isn't the right word for our generation - I think we're all taught well enough the meaning of hard work. I'm just not sure if we're taught the value. I think 'unappreciative' is better. I notice tinder swiping, people would go on dates without their heart being fully in to it - whereas we wouldn't be able to waste time dating like that without being placed in the lens of so many strangers by something like tinder. If this makes sense. On facebook, we have all this fake news and all these 'Wow! Look at these 10 Technological Revelations!' and it's hard to tell what's real and what's fake anymore, yet you still hear 'oh, look at this amazing article! it says we can be on mars in 5 years!". "Oh, look at this article, apparently Tupac's alive in north korea" - things like this. "Oh hey, freebies." "Oh, I can pull up the coolest music in an instant." Some facebook users as a result seem to display very superficial interests. People aren't encouraged to savour and appreciate their experiences. I feel as if there's not very much room for people to develop in to real unique personalities with their own interests nowadays. This isn't to say that facebook is the intrinsic root of all modern psychological evil - it's just to say that given that we borderline [B]need[/B] to use it for work, socialization and keeping up to date with society - we could divert a little more attention to the aftermath of spending so much time with social media I think the millennial generation need to place an emphasis on personal interaction and establishing friendly, healthy friendships and models of what those friendships and relationships should be - I just feel as if captain chiselled mcglasses could've worded his point a tad better (I could also have worded this whole post better but I rehash my defence of it's 5am :v:) - That all said, I must also point out I've noticed adults going in to their fifties showing signs of being disconnected with reality/the world thanks to using facebook all the time, instant gratification etc - but I've noticed there are less of them. I feel like this is a mixture of two factors - being older and not hip wit da tech, and also having seen the world without the internet - therefore being somewhat aware to the technological divide, and, if desired - I believe older folk find it a lot easier to resist. I feel as if it's all correlation. also a lot of swearing and reduction in this thread cmon lads :(

Dude looks like Filthy Frank's cousin

here's the video un-facebooked: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hER0Qp6QJNU&t=1s[/media]

how is instant gratification a bad thing? how is being able to get things quicker and sooner a bad thing? as long as you understand when and why things don't always come immediately, what the hell is the problem? it's like complaining that you can now fly from sydney to america rather than travel by boat. and he's saying a lot about social media too, yes it's addictive but saying years into the future it'll have the same affects as alcohol is absurd. social media doesn't intoxicate you, and it hasn't been around that long either. why is social interaction changing/evolving a bad thing? going from asking out IRL to asking out on social media, i don't see a problem with it, times do change. and labeling a whole generation of people under a few keywords is very demoralizing, on top of all of that. saying that they'll never find deep fulfillment or joy in life? you're just making it worse

to be fair I'm talking about something that I've only had swirling around as a theoretical thing for a while and this video came about and it's sort of opened me to discuss it, so this is a good opportunity to see what's what for me instant gratification isn't always a bad thing, such as purchasing online games or looking up a fact - I'm mainly talking about the fact that internet users can cycle through a lot of media, which I feel makes it a little harder to appreciate each thing - I realise now though that most of my points are formed on personal feelings rather than hard logic though. I made a woopsie Just the way I see phones and the internet affecting people's lives, I think I'm just a bit cynical as a result of my own experiences, but I'm sure technology won't turn us in to a Wall-E society. Also, the whole 'side hoes' and daddy trend and the whole depression and existentialism being reposted by younger teens - all that stuff that gets broadcast - just feels really strange and as if it's the result of all these weird posts online affecting culture. Maybe the effect'll die down soon. I could just be batshit lost :v:

[I]Posted in the duplicate thread, so reposting here instead:[/I] "We have no age restrictions on social media or smartphones" Well that's a load of bullshit [t]http://i.imgur.com/FDbUxDw.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/Zw7XEa8.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/PVvle6g.png[/t] [editline]editLIME[/editline] Actually the whole thing is bullshit, wow. "Access to an addictive chemical called dopamine through social media", yeah, and so does everyone else in that audience by simply laughing at your shitty jokes. Good job.

[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;51620760]Dude looks like Filthy Frank's cousin[/QUOTE] not chris evans?

this guys face and voice are exceptionally punchable

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51621524][I]Posted in the duplicate thread, so reposting here instead:[/I] "We have no age restrictions on social media or smartphones" Well that's a load of bullshit [t]http://i.imgur.com/FDbUxDw.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/Zw7XEa8.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/PVvle6g.png[/t] [editline]editLIME[/editline] Actually the whole thing is bullshit, wow. "Access to an addictive chemical called dopamine through social media", yeah, and so does everyone else in that audience by simply laughing at your shitty jokes. Good job.[/QUOTE] Cant really call that a restriction though, when all you have to do is say you are over 13 years. Restriction is getting asked to show Id when buying booze

[QUOTE=Lazore;51621624]Cant really call that a restriction though, when all you have to do is say you are over 13 years. Restriction is getting asked to show Id when buying booze[/QUOTE] Can't really call that a restriction either, you could just carry a fake ID. Or get someone else to buy it for you who is of age. Restrictions have always been easy to get around. That wasn't my point, it was that he was dismissing that there [I]are [/I]restrictions, even if they're not exactly well-enforced - and they shouldn't be, either.

Idk I remember being a juvie and getting into clubs and shit was hard, good fake ids aren't really easy to come by, in fact at-least in Australia they've cracked down on fake ids a lot in the past 10 years. I remember your best bet for getting into clubs/pubs/festivals back in like 2011 & 2012 was to borrow an ID of somebody else that looked like you but even then it wasn't %100. [editline]4th January 2017[/editline] On the topic of the video though I agree with some of his points especially about facebook and shit but it doesn't exactly cover all of our generation; I mean me and a lot of my mates left school and joined the workforce when we were 15/16, we didn't have and still don't have a big presence on social media. I can't talk for people that finished school and went off to Un, I left school in year 10 and had minimum wage jobs until I joined the Army when I was 17 and used that to get into/pay for TAFE/Polytechnic college; I think plenty of people in our generation have the same troubles as our parents and their parents etc. I don't see us as drastically different.

I just wanna add that I don't think this guy knows how the modern workplace works, or how modern meetings work. I bring both my phone and my laptop into meetings. And so do most of my other coworkers. It's not to "check facebook". It's because we have a shitton of stuff to do, and some people need us at a moments notice, even within the workplace. That's why I put up my phone, face down. It's not a fucking signal to say "you're not that important right now", it's so I and everyone else in there is aware of any immediate notifications, if I need to be pulled out of the meeting for some reason, or temporarily divide my attention between it and something else - the laptop, that's used for note-taking, especially during brainstorming sessions which I send to the colleagues who need them - or to follow-up on the previous point, if I get an email that needs urgent attention I can take care of that immediately (which is important since I work with people across the world and I have to live with varying time zones). Time is of the essence there. I can't wait for a 2-hour meeting to end when within that window the person I'm emailing might not be available. [editline]d[/editline] but nah, maybe i'm talking out of my ass, i only want my next fix of likes on instagram probably

[QUOTE=Slim Charles;51621758] I can't talk for people that finished school and went off to Uni[/QUOTE] Yeah, he made a lot of generalizations. I've lived a fairly standard life and I've literally never met anyone that said they can't trust their friends, save a few edgelords on the internet I guess. Me nor my friends have never been big on social media either. And I sure as fuck never got any participation medals for getting my ass kicked in pretty much anything I did. I [I]was[/I] told that I can be anything I wanted to be but it didn't take me until after school to figure out that was only meant to be encouraging and shouldn't be taken literally. I wasn't over here believing that the short lazy fat boy that I am was going to be a fucking NBA superstar or whatever (I can shoot some nasty ass threes though). I don't know, I used to be the type to shit on my own generation, as embarrassing as that is, but honestly most people I've met have been perfectly normal people.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51621843]I just wanna add that I don't think this guy knows how the modern workplace works, or how modern meetings work. I bring both my phone and my laptop into meetings. And so do most of my other coworkers. It's not to "check facebook". It's because we have a shitton of stuff to do, and some people need us at a moments notice, even within the workplace. That's why I put up my phone, face down. It's not a fucking signal to say "you're not that important right now", it's so I and everyone else in there is aware of any immediate notifications, if I need to be pulled out of the meeting for some reason, or temporarily divide my attention between it and something else - the laptop, that's used for note-taking, especially during brainstorming sessions which I send to the colleagues who need them - or to follow-up on the previous point, if I get an email that needs urgent attention I can take care of that immediately (which is important since I work with people across the world and I have to live with varying time zones). Time is of the essence there. I can't wait for a 2-hour meeting to end when within that window the person I'm emailing might not be available. [editline]d[/editline] but nah, maybe i'm talking out of my ass, i only want my next fix of likes on instagram probably[/QUOTE] I have experienced people who just sit on social medias for just the sake of being active to the second that they get a message just from anyone on Facebook. I believe, it is this, he is referring to as "You're not important right now". I can see that if it actually something important (You talk about the whole timezone thing) and for actual usage that is related to the meeting it self. That is something that totally makes sense. But people don't always use social media in that way. And this can just come off as being distracted.

[QUOTE=Bloodshot12;51616256]You know what else triggers dopamine? Fun[/QUOTE] no you are addicted to fun no more fun time for bed