[quote]An Indian business executive has demanded privacy and says he fears for his life after being exposed as an online mouthpiece for the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isil).
The man, named only as Mehdi, was outed as the author of @ShamiWitness, one of the best-known pro-jihad Twitter accounts.
He frequently praised fallen fighters as martyrs and enthusiastically shared gruesome videos depicting the murders of Western aid workers and journalists.
His words were also quoted by news organisations, impressed by his articulate use of English[/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/national/indian-businessman-exposed-as-isil-tweeter/ar-BBgIKuv?ocid=UP97DHP[/url]
[quote]Shami Witness cheered when people were beheaded - but when outed by the news, he begged for privacy claiming his life would be endangered.[/quote]
Slimy repugnant sack of shit.
The internet doesn't really have a good track record when it comes to people's privacy...
[quote]An Indian business executive has demanded privacy and says he fears for his life after being exposed as an online mouthpiece for the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isil).[/quote]
I won't shed a single tear if scum like you were gunned down in the street.
[QUOTE=download;46708369]I won't shed a single tear if scum like you were gunned down in the street.[/QUOTE]
Naw, I say they give him the privacy he desires. Find the deepest, darkest hole in the ground and put him there. Forever.
just waiting for the day that venture capitalists realize that twitter can't be monetized and it's eventually sold off to the u.s. government for data collection purposes
that will be the day that everyone stops using twitter
then ISIS will be forced to use instagram or some shit
They'll probably just start charging 5c a tweet or something.
[QUOTE=joes33431;46708411]just waiting for the day that venture capitalists realize that twitter can't be monetized and it's eventually sold off to the u.s. government for data collection purposes
that will be the day that everyone stops using twitter
then ISIS will be forced to use instagram or some shit[/QUOTE]
infidel's head #praiseallah #deathtowesterners #nofilter
Hah, even ISIS outsources to Bangalore! :v:
Seriously though, this really puts the stress on the Indian muslims's claim that poverty and illiteracy was the real causes of radicalized youth in the country. There are pictures of this fucknut enjoying Hawaiian parties at his job, all while telling other people that folks like his co-workers should be beheaded.
The fact that he asked for his privacy to be respected is laughable - this asshole was probably the tipping point for a lot of idiots to join ISIS in the first place and built a credibility to pass along messages between ISIS members. Far as I'm concerned, he should be tried for that and shouldn't be spared at all.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;46708451]Hah, even ISIS outsources to Bangalore! :v:
Seriously though, this really puts the stress on the Indian muslims's claim that poverty and illiteracy was the real causes of radicalized youth in the country. There are pictures of this fucknut enjoying Hawaiian parties at his job, all while telling other people that folks like his co-workers should be beheaded.[/QUOTE]
Muslim terrorists tend to be well educated and moderately wealthy, and they are generally inspired to radicalism due to rejection in western society and the failures of their own.
Normally I don't support doxxing, but these people need to be exposed and shut down completely.
Also he is a massive hypocrite for even making the account but even more so for having the audacity to beg privacy and compassion from the people he's repeatedly called to genocide.
So he fears for his life does he?
Turnabout's fair play, as the saying goes. Anything that happens to him at this stage would be inevitable, because our people tend to have some trouble controlling themselves if they get too outraged about something.
[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;46708714]Muslim terrorists tend to be well educated and moderately wealthy, and they are generally inspired to radicalism due to rejection in western society and the failures of their own.[/QUOTE]
That's correct - the Indian Muslim community, ever since the backlash of 9/11 against Islam in general and the Gujurat riots, have developed a persecution complex of sorts when it comes to addressing the radicalization that happens under their nose because in some cases, it's passively supported.
I have a rather nice Muslim neighbour, very friendly. Spent almost all his life working in the US as a forklift operator in some Walmart place. Came back to retire (he holds an American Passport). We were casually chatting over tea one day and then he just says "You know, the Americans....they deserved 9/11. It was all their sins coming home to roost."
I was fucking gobsmacked that a guy could say that without even flinching or even thinking about it.
This is how it is here for a lot of people - I live in what is a predominantly Muslim community, am brown and rock a french beard, so most people naturally make the assumption that "I'm one of them" and say shit like this until they realize what they just did and just go silent.
It's bubbling constantly under the surface, and I don't want to be around when it finally comes to the surface. There was an interesting short film produced which kinda shows the mentality I'm talking about (although, in a way it's very silly).
[video=youtube;hc5erdvB-4Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5erdvB-4Y[/video]
It wouldn't be a stretch to say he gave aid to the enemy, making treason charges possible if you're able to swing that by a jury / judge willing to hear that argument.
[QUOTE=MattSif;46709054]It wouldn't be a stretch to say he gave aid to the enemy, making treason charges possible if you're able to swing that by a jury / judge willing to hear that argument.[/QUOTE]
It most likely will be, because this guy duped so many people into thinking he was a real fighter on the front lines by regurgitating information from multiple sources, real ISIS morons also used him as a mouthpiece for passing messages to other ISIS idiots, making him also culpable and he might be tried with Treason, though there are plenty of other Indian Terrorism laws he'll be nailed with first. This guy won't be seeing the light of day for a while.
He is the very definition of a keyboard warrior.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;46709252]It most likely will be, because this guy duped so many people into thinking he was a real fighter on the front lines by regurgitating information from multiple sources, real ISIS morons also used him as a mouthpiece for passing messages to other ISIS idiots, making him also culpable and he might be tried with Treason, though there are plenty of other Indian Terrorism laws he'll be nailed with first. This guy won't be seeing the light of day for a while.
He is the very definition of a keyboard warrior.[/QUOTE]
His biggest problem right now aside from being a despicable human being is that he tried to plead for his rights when he openly supported a group that's all for slaughtering [b]anybody[/b] that is perceived as a threat to them. He's a scum-sucking lowlife that has no shame, he definitely doesn't see what he did as wrong which in of itself is a clear indication of how horrible of a person he is.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;46708787]
[video=youtube;hc5erdvB-4Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5erdvB-4Y[/video][/QUOTE]
So... Let me get this straight, Barber sees Muslims maiming a non Muslim outside his shop, decides to slit his client's throat because he was a muslim, and then realizes it's a movie. Is that it?
[QUOTE=Phil5991;46709470]So... Let me get this straight, Barber sees Muslims maiming a non Muslim outside his shop, decides to slit his client's throat because he was a muslim, and then realizes it's a movie. Is that it?[/QUOTE]
Seems like it. I don't know what to make of it honestly, if that is what happened what is the point they are trying to tell me? Honestly, that video was just depressing. After watching it and not understanding what is being said (which would obviously help immensely, a translation would be nice) it seems like it has a quite few things to say on both sides. Are they making a film for or against radical Muslims? Is that why he slit the guys throat? Is this a fair representation of the separation of the two sides of that argument over there? Is anything I've just mentioned even remotely correct?
[QUOTE=LSK;46709530]Seems like it. I don't know what to make of it honestly, if that is what happened what is the point they are trying to tell me? Honestly, that video was just depressing.[/QUOTE]
There is a deeper context to this which hit home to a lot of Indians as well which may be lost in translation. First off, it's not meant to be taken at face value (seriously, who the fuck slits a guys throat because another dude got his teeth kicked in outside, right?)
The deeper meaning is shown when you can see them happily bantering in the beginning of the short, talking about neighborhood events, the very picture of communal harmony. However, the real thoughts lurking under the surface presented themselves when the event unfolded outside the shop. This kind of two-facedness is something that can now be seen among almost all strata of Indian society now. They'll first size you up, try to get a peg on your religion purely on visual basis and then once they're comfortable enough (usually by either straight up asking or making it contextual, like "So, how's your Diwali?" or "How's your Eid going?" to get a bead on you, you get to hear some of their worst opinions. It's not just Muslims though, it's Hindu's too - it's a very uneasy truce. I've heard shit like :
1. 9/11 was a good thing, it was the wrath of god on the Americans for the number of innocent Muslim lives they killed.
2. The Hindus are trying to convert the Muslims, we should kill them all off and make this our chosen land.
3. The Muslims are taking over places and multiplying, turning some of our former nice areas into ghettoes no one wants to go to.
For most people like my grandfather and my father, this particular video jogged memories of when the south Indian community had to hide a lot of Sikh families post the Indira Gandhi assasination and the Emergency. People you knew for years and once considered your friends were now pointing out your house to rioting mobs who would come to kill you and loot your house.
It might be strange for a lot of people (kind of marred by the hyperbole within the video itself), but it's a glimpse on a very dark truth about communal harmony in this country of mine.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;46708787]That's correct - the Indian Muslim community, ever since the backlash of 9/11 against Islam in general and the Gujurat riots, have developed a persecution complex of sorts when it comes to addressing the radicalization that happens under their nose because in some cases, it's passively supported. [/QUOTE]
I don't completely agree with that statement. Extremism and terrorism are evil and I do not support those who do so, which is why I have problems with Palestine, Al Qaeda and even historical groups like the founding fathers who used terrorism themselves. However, I wouldn't invalidate the reasons they exist. There are some very real problems in Muslim society, and I'm not saying because Islam is in any way a bad religion, but just because that is what centuries of development have led to.
Of course saying things like "America deserved 9/11" and "we should kill apostates" are way too far, when you look at the crushing poverty and persecution the Muslim community is in in most countries you can see the origin of most of their hate. They might not say it, but the reason most terrorists are wealthy and educated is because they have a disillusionment with western society. When a young wealthy man is told he and his background are somehow inferior than he will look towards those who tell him otherwise, which is how we got wealthy Egyptian youth such as [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Atta"]Mohamed Atta[/URL] flying a plane straight into a skyscraper.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;46709554]There is a deeper context to this which hit home to a lot of Indians as well which may be lost in translation. First off, it's not meant to be taken at face value (seriously, who the fuck slits a guys throat because another dude got his teeth kicked in outside, right?)
The deeper meaning is shown when you can see them happily bantering in the beginning of the short, talking about neighborhood events, the very picture of communal harmony. However, the real thoughts lurking under the surface presented themselves when the event unfolded outside the shop. This kind of two-facedness is something that can now be seen among almost all strata of Indian society now. They'll first size you up, try to get a peg on your religion purely on visual basis and then once they're comfortable enough (usually by either straight up asking or making it contextual, like "So, how's your Diwali?" or "How's your Eid going?" to get a bead on you, you get to hear some of their worst opinions. It's not just Muslims though, it's Hindu's too - it's a very uneasy truce. I've heard shit like :
1. 9/11 was a good thing, it was the wrath of god on the Americans for the number of innocent Muslim lives they killed.
2. The Hindus are trying to convert the Muslims, we should kill them all off and make this our chosen land.
3. The Muslims are taking over places and multiplying, turning some of our former nice areas into ghettoes no one wants to go to.
For most people like my grandfather and my father, this particular video jogged memories of when the south Indian community had to hide a lot of Sikh families post the Indira Gandhi assasination and the Emergency. People you knew for years and once considered your friends were now pointing out your house to rioting mobs who would come to kill you and loot your house.
It might be strange for a lot of people (kind of marred by the hyperbole within the video itself), but it's a glimpse on a very dark truth about communal harmony in this country of mine.[/QUOTE]
I was just about to add that in myself about the 1984 riots; my mother lived in Calcutta and their neighbors had to hide them for something like days or weeks. They didn't see my grandfather for awhile because he had to hide too.
This is why I get uneasy when people (mostly Hindu's in my experience) say everything in India is fine, and that the race and religion tensions have for the most part disappeared. On the surface it might, but things could go to shit so quickly in India if anything were to happen that would create animosity and give people a good reason to publicly display their hostility towards another religion.
[QUOTE=lum1naire;46713027]I was just about to add that in myself about the 1984 riots; my mother lived in Calcutta and their neighbors had to hide them for something like days or weeks. They didn't see my grandfather for awhile because he had to hide too.
This is why I get uneasy when people (mostly Hindu's in my experience) say everything in India is fine, and that the race and religion tensions have for the most part disappeared. On the surface it might, but things could go to shit so quickly in India if anything were to happen that would create animosity and give people a good reason to publicly display their hostility towards another religion.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much - Hindu Fundies, known as the VHP - are known to collaborate with the RSS to deliberately perform false flag attacks on Hindu temples to get people riled up and riot against Muslims in the area. An example of these attacks are deliberately leaving cow's heads in temples (highly offensive as the slaughter of cows is banned with cows considered sacred). Similarly, they hurl dead pigs into mosques or set fire to mosques/temples to get one religious group riled up against the other.
Likewise, assholes like Owaisi continuously spew anti-Hindu hatespeech bullshit sitting in Hyderabad, which a lot of people buy into and passively agree with and the police, being fearful of a Muslim uprising if they were to take action against him, continue to remain silent. Assholes like him are the reason why some parts of old Hyderabad (the areas around the historic monument known as Charminar) are no-go areas for Hindus or other non-muslims.
The biggest issue is that the police in the area, depending on the dominant religion of the police force in the area, are often complicit in these events which makes matters worse.
The horrors of what happened in 1984 are something dad knows about more than I do and the fact that he tells me stories about how they methodically hunted down Sikhs in most areas like rats is chilling.
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An update: he claims to have had his accounts hacked and that he was impersonated by somebody else, and his parents more or less support the claim. I'd take it with a grain of salt because a lot of folk here have trouble believing that their children could get up to this sort of thing, but if it IS the truth, then we'll all have to reserve judgment. The investigations should reveal a bit more.
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