Are woman leaders less prone to corruption? - General

Woman leaders have been a minority in world leadership since day one. Do you think they'd make just as good leaders as men? I'd assume not, because of examples such as Benazhir Bhutto and India's current president, but I want to hear your opinion.

I dont think women are able to make the mental judgement of things like wars as men can.

[QUOTE=Best4bond;32502476]I dont think women are able to make the mental judgement of things like wars as men can.[/QUOTE] Not completely true, leaders like Catherine the Great led a vast sucession of wars all around their respective countries. But I do agree, some are just not capable of making the right decisions.

Wasn't there some office that employed exclusively women? Yeah, it closed after a one or two months

[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;32502719]Not completely true, leaders like Catherine the Great led a vast sucession of wars all around their respective countries. But I do agree, some are just not capable of making the right decisions.[/QUOTE] I think that the Female leaders of a country with nuclear weapons should have to take some sort of pressure test to see if they can press the button.

Woman are entirely capable of the same things as men. The problem is that most societies raise them differently. [QUOTE=Best4bond;32502476]I dont think women are able to make the mental judgement of things like wars as men can.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Best4bond;32502818]I think that the Female leaders of a country with nuclear weapons should have to take some sort of pressure test to see if they can press the button.[/QUOTE] Blatant sexism.

[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;32502719]But I do agree, some are just not capable of making the right decisions.[/QUOTE] That's just unfair. More men (men in power) have made wrong decisions than women have. The statistics at this moment are very obvious, seeing as there are only a couple of women in power. We can't know for sure whether women would make the same decisions as men would. Though I think that women would make better social leaders, and men better leaders in war. I also think that women would try absolutely anything before going to war. I think that women would make better leaders than men, at least at this point, because they would want to prove to us men that they could really make the world a better place.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;32502835]Woman are entirely capable of the same things as men. Most societies raise them differently though. Blatant sexism.[/QUOTE] Male and female minds work differntly, that's a fact

With the right education there should be no difference. The only reason women think different is because they grew up different. Women generally are probably less prone to corruption, but overall it probably won't matter.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;32502835]Woman are entirely capable of the same things as men. The problem is that most societies raise them differently. Blatant sexism.[/QUOTE] The hormonal differences in the brains of men and women aren't made up. Men and women aren't the same. Yes, there are exceptions to all things; there are women that are better at things than most men in matters regarded as traditionally male territory, and the traditional gender roles are probably exaggerated in our society, but I sure do hate when the sexism card is drawn as the first thing. [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2003/apr/17/research.highereducation[/url] Edit: More in reference to the first quote in your post than the last, which was just blatantly sexist :v:

[QUOTE=Best4bond;32502818]I think that the Female leaders of a country with nuclear weapons should have to take some sort of pressure test to see if they can press the button.[/QUOTE] This is extremely sexist. Why shouldn't men do this?

I don't think it matters so long as they're back by a party of both genders, prime ministers etc rely on their cabinet for the infomation and what decisions to make, so it'd probably equal out.

Australia is trying to get rid of Julia Gillard for doing an incompetent job, so that says something. But that wouldn't be fair to judge all women like her.

They're more prone to materialism, thus could be easier to buy out. But other than that I know plenty of chicks who are pretty good at leadership.

according to the british journal of psychology, the average male is slightly more intelligent than the average woman [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4183166.stm[/url] unfortunately, it doesn't warrant the flagrant sexism that you're all displaying in this thread

The hormonal differences in men and women aren't significant enough to matter. The only significant difference in genders comes from the way they're treated since birth, but that doesn't apply to everyone and it doesn't mean either gender is incapable.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;32503939]The hormonal differences in men and women aren't significant enough to matter. The only significant difference in genders comes from the way they're treated since birth, but that doesn't apply to everyone and it doesn't mean either gender is incapable.[/QUOTE] Pretty much this, I think if an individual proves they can handle leadership it doesn't really matter what gender they are. They should have the same standards expected of them.

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;32503618]according to the british journal of psychology, the average male is slightly more intelligent than the average woman[/QUOTE] We don't elect intelligent people anyway

[QUOTE=Venezuelan;32504561]We don't elect intelligent people anyway[/QUOTE] It seems, at least to me, that people who are overly charismatic or cunning tend to get the positions of power, as opposed to the genuinely intelligent who would be good leaders. Then again, would the really intelligent people want the power and responsibility?

[QUOTE=Best4bond;32502476]I dont think women are able to make the mental judgement of things like wars as men can.[/QUOTE] Margret Thatcher. Need I say more. Also the notion that women cannot think on the same plane as men is sexist. [editline]27th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=TropicalV2;32503618]according to the british journal of psychology, the average male is slightly more intelligent than the average woman [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4183166.stm[/url] unfortunately, it doesn't warrant the flagrant sexism that you're all displaying in this thread[/QUOTE] Because gender roles have made it that way, it has nothing to do with sex.

I don't think there have been enough Female presidents/other kind of leaders to even speculate as to which gender is more prone to corruption (among world leaders),

[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;32502362]Woman leaders have been a minority in world leadership since day one. Do you think they'd make just as good leaders as men? I'd assume not, because of examples such as Benazhir Bhutto and India's current president, but I want to hear your opinion.[/QUOTE] It's hard to prove whether women are worse/better leader than men since man has ruled the world since the dawn of mankind, and have actively (and passively) surpressed women from trying to get into positions of power. We're getting better at raising women to take control, but it still is really, really hard for women to try and attain power since social heritage and various other factors always try to push them down. Women usually have to really be the best of the best to achieve success and even so will have every single mistake blown out of proportions, and will be a target of slander every waking every hour whereas a man will most likely not even have to be the best at his craft to get into a position of power, and will not recieve as many slanders as a female nor will his mistakes be taken as seriously as that of a female. I believe women are equally capable of being great leaders, and equally capable of falling to corruption. It all lies in how a society views females and also how accepting we are of having someone without a dick trying to achieve things. Everyone is equally capable of becoming corrupt since corruption isn't just a single thing but a big machinery of various factors, such as how others treat corruption, how the system is built, social acceptance within the region/country, education etc etc. [editline]27th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Terminutter;32504617]It seems, at least to me, that people who are overly charismatic or cunning tend to get the positions of power, as opposed to the genuinely intelligent who would be good leaders. Then again, would the really intelligent people want the power and responsibility?[/QUOTE] You can't possess only one trait to be a great leader, a great leader would need to have certain characteristics that makes people follow them (overly charismatic is one), just being intelligent isn't a good way of determinating who should be leader. The various great leaders of mankind hasn't just been overly charismatic, neither have they just been overly cunning or intelligent. They have had just the right mixture of those traits (and many other, depending on their work).

they're just as prone to corruption as everyone else Tatyana Golikova is an example that has been in the news recently [url]http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/corruption-fatigue/436298.html[/url]

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32505046]Margret Thatcher. Need I say more. Also the notion that women cannot think on the same plane as men is sexist. [editline]27th September 2011[/editline] Because gender roles have made it that way, it has nothing to do with sex.[/QUOTE] This. Margaret Thatcher was a very strong leader, not afraid to do what she thought was best, and despite being hated by a lot of people probably did a lot of good for our country. As for the war aspect, she went against the President of the United States when she decided to fight back in the Falklands. More balls than our male politicians today have.

[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;32506067]This. Margaret Thatcher was a very strong leader, not afraid to do what she thought was best, and despite being hated by a lot of people probably did a lot of good for our country. As for the war aspect, she went against the President of the United States when she decided to fight back in the Falklands. More balls than our male politicians today have.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say she did good for the country,but rather the south of England, the north of England up to Scotland got fucked over by her dumb policy making.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;32503939]The hormonal differences in men and women aren't significant enough to matter. The only significant difference in genders comes from the way they're treated since birth, but that doesn't apply to everyone and it doesn't mean either gender is incapable.[/QUOTE]Well, since I can't breastfeed your argument is invalid. And there is a difference in body, brain, emotions, skills, and the way the genders think. There are numerous studies about the differences, but of course you don't know them. For instance, when girls and boys were playing a game in which they had to find a way through a hedge labyrinth. Boys were creating maps of the labyrinth in their imagination while girls were finding the way by remembering details about turns and such. But yeah I guess it's because someone raised them to think that way. :downs:

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;32506468]Well, since I can't breastfeed your argument is invalid. And there is a difference in body, brain, emotions, skills, and the way the genders think. There are numerous studies about the differences, but of course you don't know them. For instance, when girls and boys were playing a game in which they had to find a way through a hedge labyrinth. Boys were creating maps of the labyrinth in their imagination while girls were finding the way by remembering details about turns and such. But yeah I guess it's because someone raised them to think that way. :downs:[/QUOTE] Care to link any of the studies? The way we solve things can be learned when we are very young and in the way we are raised. Boys for instance will most of the time get tools and things that stimulates our creative thinking, whereas girls will most likely get dolls and things that help stimulate social awareness etc.

Margaret Thatcher = best Prime Minister

[QUOTE=Rubs10;32503939]The hormonal differences in men and women aren't significant enough to matter. The only significant difference in genders comes from the way they're treated since birth, but that doesn't apply to everyone and it doesn't mean either gender is incapable.[/QUOTE] Haha. You're so ignorant it hurts

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32506625]Margaret Thatcher = best Prime Minister[/QUOTE] If you were rich.