This is more a followup to a story that I posted months ago. The shitstorm isn't yet over.
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[quote]Residents of this high-scale apartment building at 2688 West Mall UBC, in lobby of building, like Janet Fan, (in black on left) hold up sheets of signed protest petitions here in Vancouver, B.C. on January 12, 2011. They are outraged that a proposed hospice would be built next door to their building. The building is 80 per cent Chinese extraction and there are major cultural implications with living next door to people that are dying.[/quote]
[quote]A group of Chinese residents living in a high-end University of B.C. building has vowed to fight the university’s decision to move ahead with plans to build a hospice next to their home.
“Canada is a democratic country . . . the majority of residents oppose this site,” said Jane Ni, one of the building’s residents, at a press conference in Richmond Friday morning.
Controversy over the 15-bed hospice erupted in January when the university proposed to build a lot near the Promontory — a 94-unit building on UBC campus that houses a large number of Chinese immigrants. Many residents objected to the plan to build a hospice next door, citing cultural beliefs that having dying residents as neighbours would create negative energy.
The Friday morning conference – attended by concerned residents and leaders in the Chinese community — came as a response to the university’s announcement on June 2 that it would carry forward with its plans to build the $10-million facility.
According to earlier reports, university officials investigated residents’ complaints before deciding to continue its plans — which have been on hold since January due to neighbours’ opposition.
But according to Ni, little has been done to address Promontory residents’ concerns that the hospice could generate “negative energy” in the area.
“I would never choose to live so close to the dying,” said fellow Promontory resident Keri Zhang, who added that residents are not opposed to the hospice — they simply want the facility moved to somewhere else on campus.
According to former city councillor Maggie Ip, who spent three months assessing the residents’ concerns, the decision to move forward with the hospice reflects a lack of understanding on the part of the university.
“Their fear is genuine,” she said. “It’s a fear of encountering bad energy.”
Ip equated the Chinese residents’ opposition to the hospice location with Henrik Sedin’s refusal to touch the Western Conference Division cup when the Canucks beat the San Jose Sharks — for fear that it would taint the team’s luck in the final.
“It’s to avoid misfortune,” she said.
But Ken Tung, former chair of Chinese community organization S.U.C.C.E.S.S., said the university and Promontory residents should now focus on finding ways to “make the hospice a win-win situation” for both the university and local residents.
Tung said the UBC committee needs to do “extra work” to close the gap between hospice developers and local residents.
UBC officials said they would plant trees between the hospice and highrise but Tung said more needs to be done to reduce the hospice’s impact.[/quote]
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My opinion: Shut the fuck up and if you don't like your neighbors, move. If you can afford to live at UBC, you can afford to live in Kits, North van, downtown, etc.
[QUOTE=MIPS;30252874]My opinion: Shut the fuck up and if you don't like your neighbors, move. [/QUOTE]
YEP. TOTALLY.
Don't like something? Welp, thats your fault, just move away from it!
"I don't want to be next to people who are dying" isn't any different than "I don't want to be next to people that are poor".
I'd like to respect cultural differences in this case but the right of dying people to be comfortable isn't any less important than the right of these other people to be comfortable.
Heil.
why not just build the hospice elsewhere?
that way the hospice is still built but the current residents are happy as well.
"“Canada is a democratic country . . . the majority of residents oppose this site,” said Jane Ni, one of the building’s residents, at a press conference in Richmond Friday morning."
what a terrible argument
Seriously, fuck em, build the hospice, maybe they'll get over the whole bad energy juju.
[QUOTE=Bletotum;30254256]"“Canada is a democratic country . . . the majority of residents oppose this site,” said Jane Ni, one of the building’s residents, at a press conference in Richmond Friday morning."
what a terrible argument[/QUOTE]
Tyranny of the majority.
[QUOTE=Bletotum;30254256]"“Canada is a democratic country . . . the majority of residents oppose this site,” said Jane Ni, one of the building’s residents, at a press conference in Richmond Friday morning."
what a terrible argument[/QUOTE]
You'd think people who immigrate to one of the most culturally diverse and accepting countries in the world would be a bit more understanding of other people
Come the fuck on you're trying to prevent people from being able to die in peace that's like tying women to railway tracks and kicking puppies
I don't have full understanding of what a Hospice is, if I'm correct, that's where terminally ill people are sent?
I wouldn't want to live next to a building full of bio-hazards either.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;30257971]I don't have full understanding of what a Hospice is, if I'm correct, that's where terminally ill people are sent?
I wouldn't want to live next to a building full of bio-hazards either.[/QUOTE]
No dude, a hospice is a hospital where folk who have cancer and the like are sent to make their last days as comfortable as possible, it's not a building full of bio hazards cause the folk who are infectious and could pose a risk are kept in specialised units called infectious diseases wards in main hospitals, not hospices.
why are they building it next to a university...
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;30257971]I don't have full understanding of what a Hospice is, if I'm correct, that's where terminally ill people are sent?
I wouldn't want to live next to a building full of bio-hazards either.[/QUOTE]
They wont even let them out of the damn hospital.
Hospice is more or less a keeping people who are about to die and given a actual time frame to go to and try to get things sorted with them and their families. It is meant to look as pleasing and nice as possible so that they dont feel stressed out and in a hospital at all. Its basically alot of comforting for something that cant be fixed and will end up taking their lives.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;30261830]why are they building it next to a university...[/QUOTE]
University hospital would be my guess.
[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;30264046]University hospital would be my guess.[/QUOTE]
also this
Jesus christ, if you can afford to live in a high end dorm you can afford to move to another one.
Anyways,
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"Fuhrer mounts"
Nimbyism.
not that i support them trying to stop sick people from dying peacefully all because of "bad juju",
but to you guys saying "they should just leave", you realize it's not easy to uproot your life and move somewhere else?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;30270269]
but to you guys saying "they should just leave", you realize it's not easy to uproot your life and move somewhere else?[/QUOTE]
tell that to the dying people who will have to move to find a hospice if this plan doesn't go ahead
maybe they want to be close to their family and friends
personally I'd rather die [del]on the battlefield with sword in hand[/del] at my PC posting on facepunch
[QUOTE=Zeke129;30270471]tell that to the dying people who will have to move to find a hospice if this plan doesn't go ahead
maybe they want to be close to their family and friends
personally I'd rather die [del]on the battlefield with sword in hand[/del] at my PC posting on facepunch[/QUOTE]
no, like i said, i don't support them trying to keep the hospice from being built,
it just annoys me whenever i see people saying "IF YOU DONT LIKE IT LEAVE LOL".
[QUOTE=Kopimi;30270269]not that i support them trying to stop sick people from dying peacefully all because of "bad juju",
but to you guys saying "they should just leave", you realize it's not easy to uproot your life and move somewhere else?[/QUOTE]
It's just a dorm though, not their entire lives. Uprooting yourself from a dorm is easy enough.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;30270520]
it just annoys me whenever i see people saying "IF YOU DONT LIKE IT LEAVE LOL".[/QUOTE]
yeah well if you don't like it post somewhere else
:v:
[QUOTE=Jack_Thompson;30270533]It's just a dorm though, not their entire lives. Uprooting yourself from a dorm is easy enough.[/QUOTE]
pretty sure they aren't students
it says "high scale apartment", not dorm room
[quote]high-end University of B.C. building[/quote]
Just filthy rich Mainlanders tainting the image of Chinese-Canadians in Vancouver
They're using their religious beliefs as an argument? Bullshit.
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[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;30270631]They're using their religious beliefs as an argument? Bullshit.[/QUOTE]
chinese people are very cultural, and you can trace their beliefs of energy and it's effects on life wayyyy back into their history
while i don't think their cultural belief should stand in the way of modern day ethics,
it's not bullshit, it's a legitimate concern founded in tradition
(legitimate in the sense that they are extremely serious about it, not in the sense that they have a real reason to be worried)
Fucking go back to your overcrowded shithole.
[editline]5th June 2011[/editline]
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[QUOTE=McCarthy;30272926]Fucking go back to your overcrowded shithole.
[editline]5th June 2011[/editline]
rate me boxes, you know it's true.[/QUOTE]
way to be racist
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