Mushkin showcases a 4 TB SSD with a target retail price of US$500 - it's not TLC shit either, but yo - Polidicks

[url]http://techreport.com/news/29583/mushkin-previews-a-500-4tb-ssd-at-ces[/url] [quote=The Tech Report]More than a handful of SSD manufacturers have released drives built around Silicon Motion's SM2246EN controller, including Mushkin and its Reactor 1TB SSD. An updated SM2246EN now supports 3D NAND and drive capacities up to 2TB, and Mushkin is using that updated controller to expand the Reactor to 2TB. Mushkin says it's designed this drive with 3D MLC flash, which should offer a good mix of performance and affordability. Mushkin couldn't tell us where it's sourcing that flash, but it does say to expect a cost of about $0.25 per gigabyte when this drive hits shelves sometime in Q2 this year. How do you increase drive capacity further when your controller tops out at 2TB? By using JBOD. To construct a 4TB drive, Mushkin is basically putting two Reactor 2TB SSDs on a single PCB. Those drives are then joined into a JBOD with a separate controller. This dual-drive solution will function as a single volume, but spanning drives isn't without its costs. Mushkin tells us to expect random read and write performance of about 10K IOPS. This jumbo-sized Reactor could do well in applications that tend to be heavy on sequential workloads, like video recording or bulk media storage.[/quote]

Would something like this be any good for gaming then?

[QUOTE=Britain;49517514]Would something like this be any good for gaming then?[/QUOTE] There is almost no way it will be slower than a standard hdd so loading maps into ram and other game Giles would be beneficial Jus saw 10k iops that is about 7 15k sas drives in raid 0

at this rate i'll be upgrading all my hard drives to SSDs in 2 or so years

So we've basically got 2 layers of controllers? I'll stick with the 2tb model when it comes out I think.

I'd rather just get 2 of the 2TiB version, if you want more speed you can do RAID 0, or you can go for redundancy. Or just use them as two drives. The main thing about SSDs is the IOPS (sure sequential is like 3x faster too but HDDs have horse shit random speeds), my SSD does 90000, I don't feel like that size increase is worth 9x less IOPS.

$500 for 4tb when they say their flash costs $0.25 per gigabyte? Shouldn't this be >$1000 then, unless there's been a monumental decrease in the cost of production?

[QUOTE=helifreak;49518334]I'd rather just get 2 of the 2TiB version, if you want more speed you can do RAID 0, or you can go for redundancy. Or just use them as two drives. The main thing about SSDs is the IOPS (sure sequential is like 3x faster too but HDDs have horse shit random speeds), my SSD does 90000, I don't feel like that size increase is worth 9x less IOPS.[/QUOTE] It depends on the individual. I've seen several occasions where I'd rather have a larger SSD with slower speeds, like server hostings that'd require rare but large loads and in general require the storage.

[QUOTE=helifreak;49518334]I'd rather just get 2 of the 2TiB version, if you want more speed you can do RAID 0, or you can go for redundancy. Or just use them as two drives. The main thing about SSDs is the IOPS (sure sequential is like 3x faster too but HDDs have horse shit random speeds), my SSD does 90000, I don't feel like that size increase is worth 9x less IOPS.[/QUOTE] Well this is for those who want large capacity in a single SSD. Some things can only hold one 2.5" drive like certain laptops or a PS4, for instance.

[QUOTE=Tools;49520278]It depends on the individual. I've seen several occasions where I'd rather have a larger SSD with slower speeds, like server hostings that'd require rare but large loads and in general require the storage.[/QUOTE] Like a true replacement for HDD's Speed don't mean jackshit if they don't have a capacity and pricetag that's equally tempting.

[QUOTE=Van-man;49529989]Like a true replacement for HDD's Speed don't mean jackshit if they don't have a capacity and pricetag that's equally tempting.[/QUOTE] Hell I'd take async nand drives at $0.10/GBish for the lower energy, smaller form factor, and better access time.

I think reliability is the most important factor here. Who wants 4TB SSD that is less reliable than HDD?

[QUOTE=Fourier;49536972]I think reliability is the most important factor here. Who wants 4TB SSD that is less reliable than HDD?[/QUOTE] SSD's at the point in their life are as, if not more, reliable than HDD's. Most users aren't going to notice the difference of random 10k iops vs 40k iops, your normal spinning disk does 100-125 IOPS.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49537000]SSD's at the point in their life are as, if not more, reliable than HDD's. Most users aren't going to notice the difference of random 10k iops vs 40k iops, your normal spinning disk does 100-125 IOPS.[/QUOTE] I think the reliability issue here is you've got a likely cheap JBOD controller on top of SSD controllers.

[QUOTE=Levelog;49538429]I think the reliability issue here is you've got a likely cheap JBOD controller on top of SSD controllers.[/QUOTE] Yeah the problem of them doing a jbod of 2x2tb is concerning, that definitely makes it a non day 1 buy. However, I was speaking about SSD's in general, I can see where the confusion would be coming from

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49538462]Yeah the problem of them doing a jbod of 2x2tb is concerning, that definitely makes it a non day 1 buy. However, I was speaking about SSD's in general, I can see where the confusion would be coming from[/QUOTE] I think you can kind of apply it to SSD's in a way. HDD manufacturers have generally boiled down to a few giants. SSD's are new enough they're still all over the place. Plenty of absolute crap SSD's out there. And mushkin is far from the performance and reliability powerhouse they used to be.