I JUST SUED THE SCHOOL SYSTEM !!! - General

[hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqTTojTija8[/hd] man, is the school system over there that terrible or is this man just terribly convincing im really curious of what fp thinks of prince ea in general actually, i just find some of his videos to be pretentious and obnoxious

"Nothing has changed" Oh fuck off, the school systems are constantly trying to add technology and adopt new strategies. The issue is funding. Teachers try, obviously they try to make school a one size fits all deal but that's because they can't afford to make individual classes for your special snowflake child. Education starts at home, if you don't give your child the drive to succeed in school, they won't. Primary school is easy, online resources are bountiful, if you can't succeed in primary school because you won't open your textbook when you go home and you won't research the topics you're struggling on at home, I don't know what to tell you. The teachers aren't there to give you good grades for showing up.

While I do agree that you need a lot of self motivation at home to bother learning on your own (and it also helps in the end), I really would like to have a different kind of school system. One that doesn't seem so "unfair". This year I graduated so I'll be able to study, but I feel so fucked. I was able to get really good grades in German grammar, reaching a 1 (equals to A). But because the exams ratio is 3/4 my final grade changed to 3 (equals to C) in the end. All the good grades meant nothing because I fucked up at the exams due to pressure and stress with its subject, in which I was able to get good grades all the year through. Now I'm stuck with the 3, just because exams on one day have 3/4 ratio compared to the 9 months 1/4 ratio for preparation. I would also love to go into directions in which I feel comfortable with. I will never do anything in Chemistry so why do I have to learn complex equations and all the properties of materials just to reach a higher graduation. Why do I have to do it for a whole year and then just forget it right afterwards. I'd rather have more English and grammar classes than Chemistry which actually help me for my future.

[QUOTE=Antimuffin;51116284]While I do agree that you need a lot of self motivation at home to bother learning on your own (and it also helps in the end), I really would like to have a different kind of school system. One that doesn't seem so "unfair". This year I graduated so I'll be able to study, but I feel so fucked. I was able to get really good grades in German grammar, reaching a 1 (equals to A). But because the exams ratio is 3/4 my final grade changed to 3 (equals to C) in the end. All the good grades meant nothing because I fucked up at the exams due to pressure and stress with its subject, in which I was able to get good grades all the year through. Now I'm stuck with the 3, just because exams on one day have 3/4 ratio compared to the 9 months 1/4 ratio for preparation. I would also love to go into directions in which I feel comfortable with. I will never do anything in Chemistry so why do I have to learn complex equations and all the properties of materials just to reach a higher graduation. Why do I have to do it for a whole year and then just forget it right afterwards. I'd rather have more English and grammar classes than Chemistry which actually help me for my future.[/QUOTE] How do you propose you get children to experience all subjects before getting to a point where they decide what they want? I went to highschool for 5 years, I still felt that was too little time to get to know what I want to become. I am probably an exception, but I still don't know the direction I want to take. So then you're 16, going 17, and you have to make the decision what you want to do your entire life. Of course you can decide to keep a different study, but you feel the strain of the years passing you by and the potential experience and learning you have wasted. The ideal scenario is a more personalized educational system, but as a previous poster said, where the hell do we get the money from. No doubt on my mind that it would be a lot more expensive than the current system.

[QUOTE=Propane Addict;51116255]"Nothing has changed" Oh fuck off, the school systems are constantly trying to add technology and adopt new strategies. The issue is funding. Teachers try, obviously they try to make school a one size fits all deal but that's because they can't afford to make individual classes for your special snowflake child. Education starts at home, if you don't give your child the drive to succeed in school, they won't. Primary school is easy, online resources are bountiful, if you can't succeed in primary school because you won't open your textbook when you go home and you won't research the topics you're struggling on at home, I don't know what to tell you. The teachers aren't there to give you good grades for showing up.[/QUOTE] Why is it a "special snowflake" situation to acknowledged that different people have different talents? The truth is if you're the kind of person that won't succeed in school then the chances are school will hammer that drive to succeed out of you and create a vicious cycle. See I know it's not an easily solvable problem, but I think it's disingenuous to say school systems don't stifle individuality and creativity. I hated school, but I'm not typing this from the biased perspective of a failure, I'm typing this in my room at university. But I can see the problems, even if mine were different. I actually had a teacher say to me "schooling is run like a business and a factory". Then tell me the good teachers do the best they can for each student because it's all they can do. The main challenge in school for a lot of people was never learning and succeeding in your subjects, and a lot of teachers seemed to think the same thing, the struggle is cutting through and putting up with the bullshit to get as far as you can as best as you can. The problem is that it's all biased and opinion based, I did well and I'm here now, but I had a bad time at school, clinical depression bad. But some people who had a good time would refuse to see the problems just as I see them perhaps too clearly. [editline]27th September 2016[/editline] Oh and his point is teachers is powerful: they're fucking heroes for putting up with this crap and being paid as little as possible.

If you want an example of personalized education, take a peek at schools that are utilizing Khan Academy in their classrooms. The education system is inherently flawed at this point and motivation to learn is not the sole responsibility of the student. A teacher should be engaging and fit the common core standards to their lesson plans in ways that will catch a students attention. A lot of teachers don't because they're so obsessed with teaching to the test (because if they don't, they're at risk of losing their job tbh) and want to make sure that above all else, a students memory recall is up to par enough that they can at least pass those tests with an average score. Education is flawed at its core. And it trickles down to literally every person who has ever worked in or taken part of education. Until you can change that cracked foundation that bases quality of education on how profitable it is, then nothing will improve. [editline]27th September 2016[/editline] On that note, teachers are expected to be able to teach to different learning styles, including students with special needs that are required to be integrated into the classroom by The Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). It's not a "special snowflake" case at all. It's an expected quality of a teacher who teaches such a vast diverse population of children that include visual, auditory, kinesthetic, and other types of learners to be able to shift and form their lessons to those learners in ways that benefit them.

Did they actually just claim that that photo at 1.21 is a 150 years old?

ah yes the same ~intellectual~ who made masterpieces such as [img]http://i.imgur.com/PkbuwKd.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/9wSrvu8.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/FFq33c1.png[/img] making the same bullshit facebook-tier argument that's been spewed over and over again by edgy 16 year olds, but stretched over a few minutes just to get views. i'm not saying the education system doesn't have a problem, just that bumbling the same fish metaphor will get you nowhere and actually has little to no relevance anymore.

I think I've seen like one of this guy's videos other than this one and I'm not super fond of them either. I don't like videos like these either that don't propose some kind of call to action or attempt at doing something to benefit or improve whatever he's talking about. Just seems like shilling for views and money on his end tbh. That "depression" video sounds dumb too I don't want to watch that ever lol.

I work in a school, not as a teacher but as a technician. Whilst I cannot speak for every other school in the UK, the creative subjects are being slowly torn apart and dissolved where I work. We had a textiles technician retire, an art and photography technician retire and a Head of Technnology Teacher retire - none of the staff or technicians were replaced. I'll be short, teachers want to try and bring new subjects and new ideas to the curriculum, and they can by choosing a different exam board. I think the reason why they can't really bring new ideas and projects to the table is because of money. Our curriculum budgets have been slashed every year. I'll give you an example in 2006, Food Technology had £7000, now this year they have £700. What else are they ment to do with such a short budget? How can they afford to do new creative projects? The Technology budget last year was £5000, now it's barely under £2000. The budgets are tight and students are being asked more and more to pay for simple things like pens, pencils, sketchbooks when before we would give these items to the students for free. With regards to pay, our school is fair and it is above what other school salaries are, it's just that the reason why teachers and staff are so demotivated is because of the huge workload, work related stress, over-management ''too many chiefs not enough indians'' as my Graphics teacher says. If all the admin work was taken away from the teachers then they would be more motivated and able to try more daring or experiemental ideas in DT or Art.

I legitimately can't tell if this is parody or not. It starts off like some sort of joke but then enters a format that seems like it wants to be taken seriously yet the arguments just continue to be laughably bad making really shitty comparisons throughout.

Regardless of if I agree or not, it has to be said every time I see this dudes videos anywhere everyone is like, "Wow what a pretentious windbag look at him with his art an opinions." He's really not. I mean, given, there are a [b]lot[/b] of problems with his messages, but they aren't negative messages. Just a dude making expression. [editline]27th September 2016[/editline] You can't argue that common core isn't absolute dogshit at least.

[QUOTE=Wolverunder;51116482]Regardless of if I agree or not, it has to be said every time I see this dudes videos anywhere everyone is like, "Wow what a pretentious windbag look at him with his art an opinions." He's really not. I mean, given, there are a [b]lot[/b] of problems with his messages, but they aren't negative messages. Just a dude making expression. [editline]27th September 2016[/editline] You can't argue that common core isn't absolute dogshit at least.[/QUOTE] They probably just disagree with what he's saying therefore his points are invalid. [editline]27th September 2016[/editline] Fyi, I agree with his points but also think this is a really well presented and powerful way of getting them across.

Yes the American education system is pure shit and contributes directly to all the country's failures. Yes this dude is annoying as fuck.

[I]No homework in Finland[/I] is a myth.

You know, I've never seen a comment on Finish education from someone who's been through it. What is it like?

Are some people really still not OK admitting that the education sometimes tries to fit circle pegs into square holes? I'm not saying it's entirely broken for everyone, but some people are just born wrong for the education system in the UK.