Chinese teen sentenced to life for importing airsoft guns: "Shoot me with them and see if I die" - Polidicks

[thumb]http://en.people.cn/NMediaFile/2016/0811/FOREIGN201608110554000044351663176.jpg[/thumb] [i]The purchased replica guns[/i] [quote]The fate of Liu Dawei that would lead him to a life sentence conviction began on July, 2014. Then 18-year-old, gun enthusiast Liu placed an online order to purchase 24 replica firearms from a Taiwanese website at a cost of 30,540 yuan (around 4602.07 USD). But his parcel never arrived at his home in Quanzhou, southeast China’s Fujian province. Two months later, on September 29, 2014, [b]Liu was arrested for arm trafficking. Police have identified 20 out of the 24 “replica guns” as real guns[/b]. On April 30, 2015, Liu has been sentenced to life imprisonment. In the courtroom, Liu Dawei yelled out at the top of his lungs, [b]“Please shoot me with the guns I bought! I’ll admit guilty if I could be killed!”[/b] The judge evoked Article 151 of PRC Criminal Law: “Smuggling arms, ammunitions, nuclear materials, or counterfeit currency notes shall be sentenced to imprisonment of over seven years, with a fine or forfeiture of property. Offenses of an extraordinarily serious nature [...] should be punished with life imprisonment or death penalty, with forfeiture of property.” The judge said, based on the law, smuggling over 20 firearms should be given death sentence. However, the judge added that considering Liu’s young age at the time when the crime was committed, the court thus handed down a life sentence instead. In Dawei’s defense, the reason why he bought such a large chunk of “replica guns” was that the Taiwanese online store would not accept an order under 20 pieces. The crux of the controversy thus lies in the question of where a replica gun is counted as a real weapon on the spectrum. According to “Regulations on evaluating firearm and ammunition performance by Public Security Organs” decreed in 2010, “[the object] should be identified as a firearm when the kinetic energy of firearms muzzle is over 1.8 j/cm2.” The terminologies in the definition may be obscure for most people who lack expertise in the field. Liu Dawei’s lawyer used a metaphor to clarify, “We are sitting across the table, and I dash a handful of beans onto your face; the force of these beans would be about 1.8j/cm2.” Similar standard in Hong Kong goes up to 7.077 j/cm2, and 20 k/cm2 in Taiwan. Even in mainland China, the number was set at 16j/cm2 before 2008. Liu’s mother, who never thought she would ‘lose her son for a kind of toy he’s been playing with since child,” said Dawei was ignorant to the existence of such a law. “Dawei never knew such regulation before he was arrested,” said Liu’s mother.[/quote] [url]http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0811/c90000-9098340.html[/url]

Life in prison over fucking [i]airsoft guns[/i]? As a [i]teenager[/i]? Go fuck a garbage disposal, China.

[Quote] There perhaps still is hope for a turnaround in Liu Dawei's case. On April 11, 2016, Higher People’s Court of Fujian Province has accepted Liu Dawei’s appeal. Liu and his family are now eagerly waiting for the final results. [/QUOTE] .

I hope this guy gets the chance to appeal this. Like, what kind of idiotic blatant backroom fucking over a poor teenager(who I would postulate doesn't have an easy time getting 5,000USD together, especially in China) bullshit is this, China? E:Ninja'd hard.

The only person who deserves jailtime is the fuckwit who decided to give him a life sentence for this.

What if a terrorist were to get their hands on this type of technology Mass Welting?

I got hit by one on bare fucking skin, hurt like a cock sucker, didn't even bleed though

Would his actions hurt society that the laws are there to protect?

[QUOTE=The bird Man;50875689]Would his actions hurt society that the laws are there to protect?[/QUOTE] Laws aren't meant to protect Society. They're meant to protect the State. That's decupally true for Soviet Bloc countries that haven't been thoroughly cleansed of Marx's taint.

[QUOTE=certified;50875731]That's [B]decupally [/B]true for Soviet Bloc countries that haven't been thoroughly cleansed of Marx's taint.[/QUOTE] I have to ask: What is that supposed to mean? I tried googling it and got no results and I can't think of anything close to it, especially that would make sense there.

[QUOTE=certified;50875731]Laws aren't meant to protect Society. They're meant to protect the State. That's decupally true for Soviet Bloc countries that haven't been thoroughly cleansed of Marx's taint.[/QUOTE] depends on the place generally countries like the united states or france have "Rule of law" where everybody (no matter how rich or powerful) is obliged to follow the law and thus are subject to it in China or Russia, it's more "Rule by law" where the ruling regime uses the legal system to their advantage and if you have connections you can avoid being subject to some laws in places like venezuela or somalia, laws are more of a general suggestion that you can take or leave [editline]13th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Alice3173;50875766]I have to ask: What is that supposed to mean? I tried googling it and got no results and I can't think of anything close to it, especially that would make sense there.[/QUOTE] it's a word he coined on the spot from decuple (meaning ten times) so i'm assuming he means "it's ten times as true for soviet bloc countries"

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50875460]Life in prison over fucking [i]airsoft guns[/i]? As a [i]teenager[/i]? Go fuck a garbage disposal, China.[/QUOTE] You'll get 15 years here in Australia if you possess an automatic airsoft gun. China's not the only place with kookie gun laws.

And then they shoot him with a real gun

[QUOTE=download;50875842]You'll get 15 years here in Australia if you possess an automatic airsoft gun. China's not the only place with kookie gun laws.[/QUOTE] In Canada airsoft guns have to shoot over 366fps, or else they are prohibited. They have to be more "dangerous" to be legal here.

[QUOTE=Thlis;50876335]In Canada airsoft guns have to shoot over 366fps, or else they are prohibited. They have to be more "dangerous" to be legal here.[/QUOTE] But they also can't be over 500 FPS, or else they're considered a firearm and you need a license. This is only at the point of sale though, nothing stops you from doing aftermarket modifications to make them more or less powerful.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50875460]Life in prison over fucking [i]airsoft guns[/i]? As a [i]teenager[/i]? Go fuck a garbage disposal, China.[/QUOTE] You can get life in prison for just firing a real life gun in Japan.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;50875766]I have to ask: What is that supposed to mean? I tried googling it and got no results and I can't think of anything close to it, especially that would make sense there.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/S9qfCd4.png[/img] :incredible:

[QUOTE=certified;50875731]Laws aren't meant to protect Society. They're meant to protect the State. That's decupally true for Soviet Bloc countries that haven't been thoroughly cleansed of Marx's taint.[/QUOTE] Uh, you clearly never studied Marx.

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;50876347]But they also can't be over 500 FPS, or else they're considered a firearm and you need a license. This is only at the point of sale though, nothing stops you from doing aftermarket modifications to make them more or less powerful.[/QUOTE] No, even after point of sale if it's over 500fps it's a firearm and thus if you possess one that fires in an automatic fashion, one with a magazine above 10 rounds for handguns, a handgun with a barrel length of less than 106mm, or one in general without a license you are still committing a crime.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;50876546]No, even after point of sale if it's over 500fps it's a firearm and thus if you possess one that fires in an automatic fashion, one with a magazine above 10 rounds for handguns, a handgun with a barrel length of less than 106mm, or one in general without a license you are still committing a crime.[/QUOTE] that seems kind of bullshit imo

[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;50876359]You can get life in prison for just firing a real life gun in Japan.[/QUOTE] You actually have to fire a gun before you're allowed to get your gun license in Japan. You shoot 3 rounds of trap to practise, then must score at least 2/25 on the 4th to pass the "practical" portion of the test, which is done before you are actually allowed to buy a gun. [editline]13th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50876553]that seems kind of bullshit imo[/QUOTE] All of Canada's gun laws are bullshit. We had it fine in the '80s.

I think saying "a teenager" is slightly misleading. I clicked the thread expecting a 14 or 15 year old, not what constitutes as a legal adult in most if not all countries.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50876628]I think saying "a teenager" is slightly misleading. I clicked the thread expecting a 14 or 15 year old, not what constitutes as a legal adult in most if not all countries.[/QUOTE] 18 is still a teenager.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50876628]I think saying "a teenager" is slightly misleading. I clicked the thread expecting a 14 or 15 year old, not what constitutes as a legal adult in most if not all countries.[/QUOTE] 18 is till a teenager. 14 or 15 is a full blown child

[QUOTE=Boaraes;50876678]18 is still a teenager.[/QUOTE] And is still a legal adult

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50876723]And is still a legal adult[/QUOTE] need me to spell it out for you? eightteen teen teenager

[QUOTE=Thlis;50876335]In Canada airsoft guns have to shoot over 366fps, or else they are prohibited. They have to be more "dangerous" to be legal here.[/QUOTE] Why is there a minimum?

[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;50876757]Why is there a minimum?[/QUOTE] Something stupid about how airsoft guns that fire under 366 fps being classified as "replica firearms" and being banned while airsoft guns firing above that are "air guns" and not banned

[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;50876359]You can get life in prison for just firing a real life gun in Japan.[/QUOTE] 3 years imprisonment minimum and up to life imprisonment to be specific Oddly enough, the charge for illegally owning a firearm in Japan will get you at least 1 year to up to 10 years imprisonment, owning both ammunition and firearm will be at least 3 years or greater punishment This article is especially ironic considering Norinco deals with Yakuzas in Japan and sells them pistols so.....

[QUOTE=Perrine;50876801]Something stupid about how airsoft guns that fire under 366 fps being classified as "replica firearms" and being banned while airsoft guns firing above that are "air guns" and not banned[/QUOTE] Because "replica firearms" are prohibited by Canadian law (talk about fucking stupid), but at a certain point apparently airsoft guns go from "replicas" to "unregulated firearms" and are thus not illegal themselves, but the commission of a crime with one is treated as if it was done with a real gun.