• Japanese netizens support foreign comic after one Japanese man’s discriminatory remark
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[b]Japanese netizens support foreign comic after one Japanese man’s discriminatory remark[/b] Source: [url=http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/08/24/japanese-netizens-support-foreign-comic-after-one-japanese-mans-discriminatory-remark/]Rocket News 24[/url] _________________________ [quote][img]http://i.imgur.com/ihjepxG.jpg[/img] Jason Atsugiri is currently one of the hottest comedians on Japanese television. His “Why Japanese people?!” skit is so popular even kids who have zero English skills have mastered imitating his staged outbursts. Because of that, when the comic tweeted about a possibly discriminatory remark he received at Tsukiji Fish Market during a shoot, Japanese netizens were surprised to see he didn’t lose his cool. Impressed, the post has been favorited and passed on by many, inspiring a much-welcomed discussion on how not to treat foreigners. Atsugiri, whose real name is Jason Danielson, is an IT company employee who recently got his big comedic break with his sketch, “Why Japanese people?!” [hd]https://youtu.be/RkmawfKNNZA[/hd] Although he’s not the first foreigner to succeed at capturing the Japanese entertainment spotlight, only a handful of foreigners before him, like Patrick Harlan (Pakkun) and Lee Gose, have managed to do the same. While filming on location at the famed Tsukiji Fish Market in Tokyo the other day, he had an unpleasant encounter with a Japanese gentleman, which he then tweeted about. [i]“When I went to use the restroom while filming at Tsukiji Market, a man approached me from behind, telling me in an angry voice that it was ‘JAPANESE ONLY’, but quickly changed his tune, calling out, ‘Oh, he’s a TV personality,’ after I turned around. At first I was irritated, but after mulling it over for a while, I began to think maybe they get a lot of foreign tourists who interfere with business and cause them a lot of trouble day after day.”[/i][/quote] Nice to see the newer Japanese generations seem to be a bit more warm and welcoming towards foreigners.
It would be nice to see. I have wondered if the younger Internet generation shares the older's xenophobia.
[quote]At first I was irritated, but after mulling it over for a while, I began to think maybe they get a lot of foreign tourists who interfere with business and cause them a lot of trouble day after day.[/quote] Jeez, I know it's good to try and walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you criticise them, but that kind of shit shouldn't really slide. Even if foreign tourists can be dicks (and they can), that's no reason to have a 'NATIVES ONLY' policy.
imagine a place that had a whites only policy
I've heard many stories of Japan's bigotry. It only makes my inability to understand the obsession with Japan some people have much bigger. I don't know how it is for real, but when you need to coin a term for death from overwork and the fact that people who suffer from severe depression are treated like a complete sideshow... You gotta say you got problems. I wonder if the xenophobia in Japan is as bad or worse than it is in Poland?
[QUOTE=TomoAlien;48536558]I've heard many stories of Japan's bigotry. It only makes my inability to understand the obsession with Japan some people have much bigger. I don't know how it is for real, but when you need to coin a term for death from overwork and the fact that people who suffer from severe depression are treated like a complete sideshow... You gotta say you got problems. I wonder if the xenophobia in Japan is as bad or worse than it is in Poland?[/QUOTE] People tend to remember negative things easier than positive or neutral, so the few incidents (like this one) where people are openly hostile are (I'd assume) not that common. I don't doubt that there's a lot of xenophobes in japan, but equally so I reckon there's quite a large amount of people who don't care/are welcoming. People are complicated and trying to group a vast number of people into one mindset is both stupid, and the main reason we end up with people who are racist or xenophobic. Saying 'all japanese hate foreigners' is pretty humorously ironic
[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;48536631]Saying 'all japanese hate foreigners' is pretty humorously ironic[/QUOTE] I believe that everyone just hates everyone, 'cause that's all I see in this world. Yes, I'm generalizing with the whole "everyone" thing, but I can't shake the feeling that it applies to majority of people on this planet. There's no reason for all this hate, just excuses that are perpetuated, so that it's easier to say why you hate, but in reality you ain't got a reason, you're just doing it because that's what society says is right.
I heard it's the same thing in Korea. Some bars will say no waygookin (no foreigners). But if you go in and speak Korean then often they're fine with you being there. They just don't like all the Americans/Europeans/Australians on holiday who just want to drink and trash a bar then go home. if you speak Korean then it shows them that you've been in Korea long enough to speak the language so you're probably not gonna cause any trouble other places have a separate menu for foreigners, with higher prices. But for the love of god, DO NOT go to South Korea and bitch about it. If you don't like it, then leave.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48536845]I heard it's the same thing in Korea. Some bars will say no waygookin (no foreigners). But if you go in and speak Korean then often they're fine with you being there. They just don't like all the Americans/Europeans/Australians on holiday who just want to drink and trash a bar then go home. if you speak Korean then it shows them that you've been in Korea long enough to speak the language so you're probably not gonna cause any trouble [/QUOTE] So you're pretty much fucked if you're a tourist?
I can't be the only one who sees the hilarious irony in his name being Jason [b]Danielson[/b].
[QUOTE=TomoAlien;48536558]I've heard many stories of Japan's bigotry. It only makes my inability to understand the obsession with Japan some people have much bigger. I don't know how it is for real, but when you need to coin a term for death from overwork and the fact that people who suffer from severe depression are treated like a complete sideshow... You gotta say you got problems. I wonder if the xenophobia in Japan is as bad or worse than it is in Poland?[/QUOTE] japan is the most backwards and uncultured and unrefined and weird and racist and disgusting and fucked up country in the world source: what i read on the internet
[QUOTE=Garlickeh;48537001]japan is the most backwards and uncultured and unrefined and weird and racist and disgusting and fucked up country in the world source: what i read on the internet[/QUOTE] tbh, japan's history with xenophobia is well documented, and also he never said japan is "the most backwards and uncultured and unrefined and weird and racist and disgusting and fucked up country in the world", don't dramatize it please.
[QUOTE=Garlickeh;48537001]japan is the most backwards and uncultured and unrefined and weird and racist and disgusting and fucked up country in the world source: what i read on the internet[/QUOTE] I did not say THAT (the only correct part of your interpretation is the information source statement). I just said that I've read about social issues Japan has. Why Japan? Because it's relevant to the thread, not because I have some grudge against Japan. The truth is all countries, all societies have issues, some bigger, some smaller, but still. I have said more bad things about Poland in my entire life than I did about any other country, and even then they're not exactly true and biased by my own experiences. I can criticize USA for inhumane treatment of its citizens (MKULTRA, racist cops and torture scandals, anyone?), or Russia for the anti-gay propaganda (that's mainly Putin's fault, but still), but that'd be irrelevant, and I'm only basing it on things I've heard since I don't live in USA or Russia. I could find bad things about any country if I ever decide to read about them. I don't know everything, and my negative outlook on life doesn't help matters. I'm a bitter bastard if I say so myself.
This man is one of the most irritating people on Japanese TV. Basically he makes money by being a literal stereotype and otherwise being irritating as fuck. His whole thing is he just points out something weird about Japanese writing or language and then screams "WHY JAPANESE PEOPLE!" and thats it, nothing creative or interesting as other comedians here. That's really only the real reason they support him and find him funny is because his whole gimmick is he plays the "Stupid gaijin" stereotype and just fucking milks it. Pretty much any idiot can be a comedian in this country. Another comedy group that became famous around the same time as Mr.Atsugiri is 8.6 sec bazooka. They do rythm songs that with nonsensical lyrics. They are extremely popular, and have shit tons of ad deals worth apparent millions. [video]http://youtube.com/watch?v=KahKxF3I020[/video]
[QUOTE=Ta16;48537859]This man is one of the most irritating people on Japanese TV. Basically he makes money by being a literal stereotype and otherwise being irritating as fuck. His whole thing is he just points out something weird about Japanese writing or language and then screams "WHY JAPANESE PEOPLE!" and thats it, nothing creative or interesting as other comedians here. That's really only the real reason they support him and find him funny is because his whole gimmick is he plays the "Stupid gaijin" stereotype and just fucking milks it. Pretty much any idiot can be a comedian in this country. Another comedy group that became famous around the same time as Mr.Atsugiri is 8.6 sec bazooka. They do rythm songs that with nonsensical lyrics. They are extremely popular, and have shit tons of ad deals worth apparent millions. [video]http://youtube.com/watch?v=KahKxF3I020[/video][/QUOTE] Japanese TV seems like mostly garbage flooded with crap "variety" shows. Based on what I've heard anyway.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;48537883]Japanese TV seems like mostly garbage flooded with crap "variety" shows. Based on what I've heard anyway.[/QUOTE] There were an awful lot of variety shows on TV Tokyo and TV Asahi when I went. That or baseball.
I imagine it's more of a "no tourists" thing rather than actual racism.
[QUOTE=Taggart;48537920]There were an awful lot of variety shows on TV Tokyo and TV Asahi when I went. That or baseball.[/QUOTE] Seconded. There was a LOT of variety shows and stuff with a panel of guests talking about random stuff though there were a few times I caught them discussing something I could understand. I found that if you avoided the really tourist places a lot of the shops and resturants were cool with you so long as you at least knew a small amount of japanese.
Here's the guy's skit with subtitles. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk-Gn3w2gt0[/media]
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;48537883]Japanese TV seems like mostly garbage flooded with crap "variety" shows. Based on what I've heard anyway.[/QUOTE] Variety Shows are fun, if you understand them. My favorite thing to do with my family is to watch the New Years Variety Show special on NHK, it's pretty funny and the skits and weird scenarios they come up with are interesting. I'll say that some of the assumptions you guys make about Japan from news articles or 2 week cursory tourist trips to Japan don't mean you know what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=pentium;48538037]I found that if you avoided the really tourist places a lot of the shops and resturants were cool with you so long as you at least knew a small amount of japanese.[/QUOTE] From personal experience the best way to enjoy another country is to have a local take you around. Meet a cute Japanese girl and have her show you all the cool places that only locals go to. Just try not to get too attached to eachother, that's how I ended up married. :v: [QUOTE=InvaderNouga;48538173]Variety Shows are fun, if you understand them. My favorite thing to do with my family is to watch the New Years Variety Show special on NHK, it's pretty funny and the skits and weird scenarios they come up with are interesting. I'll say that some of the assumptions you guys make about Japan from news articles or 2 week cursory tourist trips to Japan don't mean you know what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] Well I can kinda see where he's coming from as there do seem to be a fucking lot of them. But, as you pointed out they are pretty good once you understand them. If you want real Japanese comedy, I highly suggest Gaki No Tsukai, which was a SNL style skit show in the early 90s but was very losely scripted and actors generally used alot of improv and off the cuff acting, even putting together their own costumes to surprise and fuck with other cast members. Specificaly their '5 Rangers' skits. The Green Ranger has his own variety show now actually. [video=dailymotion;x2l406]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2l406_5-rangers-episode-5_fun[/video]
[QUOTE=TomoAlien;48536558]I've heard many stories of Japan's bigotry. It only makes my inability to understand the obsession with Japan some people have much bigger. I don't know how it is for real, but when you need to coin a term for death from overwork and the fact that people who suffer from severe depression are treated like a complete sideshow... You gotta say you got problems. I wonder if the xenophobia in Japan is as bad or worse than it is in Poland?[/QUOTE] It really depends. I have a friend who was born in Japan and according to him, people in the cities tend to be fairly xenophobic while people in the countryside tend to be welcoming.
Its one thing to say "no foreigners" but i think its far more acceptable to put up a sign that says "japanese speakers only" if you just dont want to deal with the language barrier, dont have any english speakers in your business and stuff. Lots of tourists go to these places and just expect them to be able to speak english then it gets to be an issue im sure.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgbqsGIWXsA[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpNSip5gyKo[/media] hmm
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;48536324]Jeez, I know it's good to try and walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you criticise them, but that kind of shit shouldn't really slide. Even if foreign tourists can be dicks (and they can), that's no reason to have a 'NATIVES ONLY' policy.[/QUOTE] Maybe a mistranslation? Maybe he intended to say no tourists but didn't know the word for it I can totally understand if he was trying to say that but did not speak very good English, I'd be hard pressed to do the same if the roles were reversed
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;48538448]It really depends. I have a friend who was born in Japan and according to him, people in the cities tend to be fairly xenophobic while people in the countryside tend to be welcoming.[/QUOTE] That was my experience for the 2 years I stayed in Japan; eventually I just left into the country side because I started getting signs hung on my wall. (I was doing temp work teaching English).
[QUOTE=butre;48536338]imagine a place that had a whites only policy[/QUOTE] There are restaurants in Okinawa that have foreigner only policies.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48536845]I heard it's the same thing in Korea. Some bars will say no waygookin (no foreigners). But if you go in and speak Korean then often they're fine with you being there. They just don't like all the Americans/Europeans/Australians on holiday who just want to drink and trash a bar then go home. if you speak Korean then it shows them that you've been in Korea long enough to speak the language so you're probably not gonna cause any trouble other places have a separate menu for foreigners, with higher prices. But for the love of god, DO NOT go to South Korea and bitch about it. If you don't like it, then leave.[/QUOTE] 'if you don't like xenophobia then leave' lmao [editline]25th August 2015[/editline] if you don't want to deal with people that don't speak the native language/share majority ethnicity, then you have no place in owning any kind of storefront or restaraunt. simple as that
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48539247]There are restaurants in Okinawa that have foreigner only policies.[/QUOTE] Which restaurant?
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48536845]I heard it's the same thing in Korea. Some bars will say no waygookin (no foreigners). But if you go in and speak Korean then often they're fine with you being there. They just don't like all the Americans/Europeans/Australians on holiday who just want to drink and trash a bar then go home. if you speak Korean then it shows them that you've been in Korea long enough to speak the language so you're probably not gonna cause any trouble other places have a separate menu for foreigners, with higher prices. But for the love of god, DO NOT go to South Korea and bitch about it. If you don't like it, then leave.[/QUOTE] so learn what I will like in korean and ask for a korean menu got ya. ..
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