first cancer, now Scientific Proof That Red Meat halves risk of depression
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Experts admitted surprise at the findings because so many other studies have linked red meat to physical health risks.
The team made the link after a study of 1000 Australian women.
Professor Felice Jacka, who led the research by Deakin University, Victoria, said: "We had originally thought that red meat might not be good for mental health but it turns out that it actually may be quite important.
"When we looked at women consuming less than the recommended amount of red meat in our study, we found that they were twice as likely to have a diagnosed depressive or anxiety disorder as those consuming the recommended amount.
"Even when we took into account the overall healthiness of the women's diets, as well as other factors such as their socioeconomic status, physical activity levels, smoking, weight and age, the relationship between low red meat intake and mental health remained.
"Interestingly, there was no relationship between other forms of protein, such as chicken, pork, fish or plant-based proteins, and mental health. Vegetarianism was not the explanation either. Only nineteen women in the study were vegetarians, and the results were the same when they were excluded from the study analyses."
Professor Jacka, an expert in psychiatric health, believed the diet of the sheep and cattle was relevant.
"We know that red meat in Australia is a healthy product as it contains high levels of nutrients, including the Omega-3 fatty acids that are important to mental and physical health," she said.
"This is because cattle and sheep in Australia are largely grass fed. In many other countries, the cattle are kept in feedlots and fed grains, rather than grass. This results in a much less healthy meat with more saturated fat and fewer healthy fats."
But eating too much red meat could be as bad for mental health as not eating enough.The Australian government recommends eating 65 -100g of lean, red meat three to four times a week.
"We found that regularly eating more than the recommended amount of red meat was also related to increased depression and anxiety," Professor Jacka added. "We already know that the overall quality of your diet is important to mental health. But it seems that eating a moderate amount of lean red meat, which is roughly three to four small, palm-sized serves a week, may also be important."
The results of the study are published in the journal Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics.The Department of Health recommends consuming no more than 70g of red meat a day - the equivalent of a Big Mac burger. ends[/quote]
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9158235/Red-meat-halves-risk-of-depression.html[/url]
too late :(
I get rid of my depression, get cancer, and get depression again. Damn it.
Depression or cancer, that is the question.
It's because it tastes so fucking good.
everything gives you cancer anyways
Red meat contains a lot of Zinc which balance out high copper levels. Copper toxicity has been linked to a lot of things such as depression, anxiety, etc. Men need a lot more zinc than Women do.
maybe it gives your depression cancer and it dies and all that is left is happy
Too bad I like my steak well done.
Depression fucking sucks. And I don't like being depressed, nor do I want to be depressed. I'm a happy person and love cheering others up. A shame one thing constantly fucks me over :/
I love steak though, so this'll only give me more of a reason to eat it <3
Of course it does. Nothing boosts your morale more than seeing a big piece of meat on your dish.
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this study sucks
"Only nineteen women in the study were vegetarians, and the results were the same when they were excluded from the study analyses."
well gee if you exclude 19 people out of 1000 it's sure not to have an impact.
"Women who reduce lamb and beef in their diets are more likely to suffer depression, according to the new study. "
Does this not really bother anyone? People who reduce amounts of things that their body is used to suffer adverse affects from it? They only had 19 vegetarians, obviously not large enough to make an impact. Why weren't vegetarians given red meat and seen how it affects depression in them?
Biased stupid study
Oh, good, a bit of scientific evidence in case some vegan asshat won't take "Because I like the flavor" as a reason for me to eat meat.
But eating too much red meat could be as bad for mental health as not eating enough.The Australian government recommends eating 65 -100g of lean, red meat three to four times a week.
"We found that regularly eating more than the recommended amount of red meat was also related to increased depression and anxiety,"
well, apparently [url="http://articles.cnn.com/1998-12-15/health/9812_15_depression.cancer_1_cancer-patients-cancer-rate-depression?_s=PM:HEALTH"]depression also causes cancer[/url] so i guess our choice is to either eat red meat and get cancer, or not eat red meat, get depression and get cancer
how optimistic
[QUOTE=TestECull;35246052]Oh, good, a bit of scientific evidence in case some vegan asshat won't take "Because I like the flavor" as a reason for me to eat meat.[/QUOTE]
this is not at all relevant because you were eating meat before this study was even conducted. you are coming up with new information to justify your behavior to them, why don't you just say that it's something you prefer doing
Now I'm split. Thanks a lot science
[QUOTE=Limed00d;35246106]Now I'm split. Thanks a lot science[/QUOTE]
breaking news: indecisiveness causes cancer
Link, not proof.
The title is misleading, it's not proof but correlation. How do we know that it was the fact that they had less meat, therefore less nutrition, that caused the depression, as opposed to the lack of red meat itself? I think that may have been a bit confusing, so I'll make it simpler: they may have had nothing to fill the nutritional gap with when they removed the red meat, so less nutrition, so less balanced mental state, or depression.
The depression is caused by a loss of Vitamin b12. This is not a fat soluble vitamin, which means you can get too much of it (which is the cause of too much meat also being bad for you) which is bad for you as well.
The article ignores b12 being the vitamin influencing these results, and fails to take into account the fact that it is an easily vitamin to supplement. So yes, eating red meat can give you decent amounts of vitamin b12 which in turn promote good mental health, but can be easily substituted by modern health advancements, and it would actually be healthier to do so because you can get controlled doses.
[QUOTE=Dark-Energy;35245828]Red meat contains a lot of Zinc which balance out high copper levels. Copper toxicity has been linked to a lot of things such as depression, anxiety, etc. Men need a lot more zinc than Women do.[/QUOTE]
It's also found in dark chocolate, peanuts, and pumpkin seeds.
[URL="http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/zinc.php"]http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/zinc.php[/URL]
So basically eating red meat makes you happy to have cancer ?
[QUOTE=Valdor;35245816]everything gives you cancer anyways[/QUOTE]
Maybe depression gives you cancer...
But then cancer also gives you depression...
Holy shit...
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35246643]So basically eating red meat makes you happy to have cancer ?[/QUOTE]
yes exactly
[QUOTE=Sanius;35247433]yes exactly[/QUOTE]
Some things are worth dying for.
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;35246078]well, apparently [url="http://articles.cnn.com/1998-12-15/health/9812_15_depression.cancer_1_cancer-patients-cancer-rate-depression?_s=PM:HEALTH"]depression also causes cancer[/url] so i guess our choice is to either eat red meat and get cancer, or not eat red meat, get depression and get cancer
how optimistic[/QUOTE]
How about moderation?
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35246643]So basically eating red meat makes you happy to have cancer ?[/QUOTE]
More like... Eat too much red meat, get cancer. Don't eat enough red meat, get depression which leads to cancer. Eat just enough red meat, happiness and no cancer.
:D
nope.
still not gonna eat it
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