State of the Union - General

Barack Obama delivered his 2012 State of the Union today before Congress in the Capital Building. In case any one missed it or wishes to watch it: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkJAcIBYEYkp[/media] What did you guys think of it? As always I thought President Obama made a fantastic speech. He is one of the greatest orators of our time. I think some of his agenda looks very promising, and I enjoyed his populist attitude throughout. He has really grown as a President over the years. It's easy to tell how much more mature and strong he's becoming. I used to think he didn't have the backbone to be President at times, but he proved me wrong, and this State of the Union address didn't hurt.

Did he mention the occupy movement?

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;34385135]Did he mention the occupy movement?[/QUOTE] No, why would he.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;34385167]No, why would he.[/QUOTE]Because it is a serious and growing movement in this country, one with a valid and important purpose that reaches through to the core of our nation?

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34385382]Because it is a serious and growing movement in this country, one with a valid and important purpose that reaches through to the core of our nation?[/QUOTE] Hasn't it already started fracturing up?

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34385382]Because it is a serious and growing movement in this country, one with a valid and important purpose that reaches through to the core of our nation?[/QUOTE] You mean a fractured and disorganized movement consisting of people with varied interests and no real solution to the problems they're protesting? It's nice to see people out and about and fighting the man but I've seen no real demands made, just a bunch of people showing the world how pissed they are. Now, if it organizes itself under a team of leadership and they start working for one coherent goal, which is a specific, solvable problem, or a significant display of power, then I'd be a little more impressed. It's like Anon, they throw hissy fits and take down websites but they lack the leadership and dedication to accomplish anything great, like taking down the IRS for a day. You wanna talk about fucking up our government in a single retaliatory blow? Hit 'em right in the money vein.

[QUOTE=xenodrox;34385454]You mean a fractured and disorganized movement consisting of people with varied interests and no real solution to the problems they're protesting? It's nice to see people out and about and fighting the man but I've seen no real demands made, just a bunch of people showing the world how pissed they are. Now, if it organizes itself under a team of leadership and they start working for one coherent goal, which is a specific, solvable problem, or a significant display of power, then I'd be a little more impressed. It's like Anon, they throw hissy fits and take down websites but they lack the leadership and dedication to accomplish anything great, like taking down the IRS for a day. You wanna talk about fucking up our government in a single retaliatory blow? Hit 'em right in the money vein.[/QUOTE]First of all, they do have a number of goals that have been laid out pretty plainly. They askew central leadership because it is a movement of the people for the people, it defeats the purpose. They are also making a number of large protests and other such actions constantly, all designed to make a point and raise awareness. But even still, lets assume they lacked both a set of goals and cohesion (two things they do have), they are still very important and are still spreading the message and getting people informed and aware. They aren't a political party or anything, they are the people, and they have every right to say "We're pissed off! You are supposed to serve us, fix the system! That is your job!" And they aren't some revolutionary group trying to tear everything down. Just the opposite. They want it built up and fixed. [editline]25th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=wraithcat;34385445]Hasn't it already started fracturing up?[/QUOTE]No? Its as strong as ever.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34385531]First of all, they do have a number of goals that have been laid out pretty plainly. They askew central leadership because it is a movement of the people for the people, it defeats the purpose. They are also making a number of large protests and other such actions constantly, all designed to make a point and raise awareness. But even still, lets assume they lacked both a set of goals and cohesion (two things they do have), they are still very important and are still spreading the message and getting people informed and aware. They aren't a political party or anything, they are the people, and they have every right to say "We're pissed off! You are supposed to serve us, fix the system! That is your job!" And they aren't some revolutionary group trying to tear everything down. Just the opposite. They want it built up and fixed. [editline]25th January 2012[/editline] No? Its as strong as ever.[/QUOTE] Although what the media can do isn't anything new to me, their lack of coverage made me believe that it had died out. I'm glad to hear it's going strong. I don't follow it too closely though.. so maybe that's why I missed it.

[QUOTE=JeffAndersen;34385547]Although what the media can do isn't anything new to me, their lack of coverage made me believe that it had died out. I'm glad to hear it's going strong. I don't follow it too closely though.. so maybe that's why I missed it.[/QUOTE]They subsided a bit for the holidays to give people time to rest and recuperate. They are still very much alive though. The lack of media attention is mainly because they want to find something else to capture people's attention, namely Iran and the elections.

Mr. Speaker looked like he was ready to either burst into tears, have a heart-attack, or both. He kept looking around and rolling his eyes, I kinda wanted to sock him in his face.

part of me feels like this would fit better in mass debate also, his bit about teachers was really good, honestly except the 'college affordability' part, because college isn't that affordable now

State of the Union: Fubar

The occupy protests basically started out as a icecube and is now just water

[QUOTE=supercopter;34427270]The occupy protests basically started out as a icecube and is now just water[/QUOTE]That is an incredibly bizarre analogy. But anyway, the Occupy movement is still going strong, despite what some may try to say. It is just not in the media spotlight anymore so it seems like it has disappeared to anyone who isn't looking.